Moms, Dads Urged To Be Stronger Advocates -- Courant.com

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Participants in a Saturday parent advocacy meeting came dressed mostly in their Sunday best, which was fitting because the meeting of the advocacy group CT Parent Power felt like a revival.
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Johnson Mortimer III

Winsted, CT

#1 Oct 21, 2007
How about starting out by just being a good parent? You'd be surprised at the mileage you can get out of it, instead of looking to the state for everything.
Vic

Stafford Springs, CT

#2 Oct 21, 2007
to paraphrase JFK "ask not what you can do for your children, ask what the state can do for you and your children.
lola

Meriden, CT

#3 Oct 21, 2007
Johnson Mortimer III wrote:
How about starting out by just being a good parent? You'd be surprised at the mileage you can get out of it, instead of looking to the state for everything.
well said!
lola

Meriden, CT

#4 Oct 21, 2007
Vic wrote:
to paraphrase JFK "ask not what you can do for your children, ask what the state can do for you and your children.
Amen!
Early Childhood Adv

Hartford, CT

#5 Oct 21, 2007
Vic wrote:
to paraphrase JFK "ask not what you can do for your children, ask what the state can do for you and your children.
HUH? "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country..."!
HC Here

Alexandria, VA

#6 Oct 21, 2007
Forget what Kennedy said, When it comes to more rotten parents who only get enthused when there is another government freebie they are not getting (why get a job with health insurance when you can burden all of us by going on SCHIP) the appropriate response comes from Gerald Ford. There was a famous nerwspaper headline summarizing Ford's feelign about lending millions to New York City. That headline was "FORD TO NY: DROP DEAD!" Let's try "drop dead" when some parent screams why you and I aren't paying for their little darling along with our own kids. When they say "we'ds all in this together", the reply should be "yeah - and you have your share to contribute too."
lola

Meriden, CT

#7 Oct 21, 2007
Early Childhood Adv wrote:
<quoted text>
HUH? "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country..."!
Thanks genious. Go look up paraphrase.
The Truth Is

Middle Haddam, CT

#8 Oct 21, 2007
Parent Power is a front group for the socialist organizations and Progressive Democrats looking for more handouts from the government. These parents are being used and rallied to push for the programs that will ask for more government subsidies - more social programs - universal preschool - universal health care and anything else that they can get their hands on.

It is just disgusting how they are using these parents to further their own agendas. They are playing on these people's frustrations and placing in their minds that it is up to the government to fix everything and provide everything from transportation to food to healthcare.

What's worse is they are saying this is being done in the name of "advocacy for the children".

I've been to their presentations and it is a prime example of Delphi Technique brainwashing. These parents are being used like toilet paper, and the legislators who are present know full well what is happening because they are behind the initiatives that they seek these parents to support.
Lisa mom of two

Waterbury, CT

#9 Oct 22, 2007
I think its interesting to see that such a positive event (who can argue against parents advocating for better things for all children) can be met with such hostility in these forums.

The event was what it was...parents seeking out positive change for the State's children.

One wonders wear all this hostility comes from.
Lisa mom of two

Waterbury, CT

#10 Oct 22, 2007
Johnson Mortimer III wrote:
How about starting out by just being a good parent? You'd be surprised at the mileage you can get out of it, instead of looking to the state for everything.
I am curious to know why you think these parents AREN'T good parents already. These are the parents who are "involved" with their children and who seek to see other parents become more involved. Not sure how that is asking the State for everything. In terms of seeking to influence State policy to be more family-oriented and positive for children, I'm not sure why that's a problem. Why should parents stand on less equal footing than many other "interests" in the State?

Our children are our future. Why not advocate on their behalf? Does it start at home, yes. But it certainly doesn't end there.
Steve

Hartford, CT

#11 Oct 22, 2007
lola wrote:
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Thanks genious. Go look up paraphrase.
Paraphrase implies that you are keeping the original meaning of whatever that you are summarizing. This paraphraser completely altered the meaning of JFK's phrase by implying that one should look to the government for aid, rather than see what you could do to help the government or yourself. That's not paraphrasing. A better phrase would be "in the spirit of JFK."

Since: Oct 07

New Britain, CT

#12 Oct 22, 2007
Parent Advocacy is NOT linked to better student performance

Since: Oct 07

New Britain, CT

#13 Oct 22, 2007
then look up GENIUS, lola

Since: Oct 07

New Britain, CT

#14 Oct 22, 2007
The problem is they are not advocating better things for ALL children, they are advocating better things for THEIR children, which simply perpetuates the disparity.

Since: Oct 07

New Britain, CT

#15 Oct 22, 2007
A BETTER phrase wouyld be 'to parody JFK's words' And can we please move on to 21st century government? I know Kennedy mat have been a visionary, but he has been dead for half a century. No Offense
Lisa mom of two

Waterbury, CT

#16 Oct 22, 2007
lew day wrote:
The problem is they are not advocating better things for ALL children, they are advocating better things for THEIR children, which simply perpetuates the disparity.
Not sure how you are getting that from the article. It sounds to me as if they are advocating (to the best of their ability) for things that benefit all children. Their priorities, afterall, sound pretty broad. Perhaps you should check out the organization's website to get a truer picture. I have seen material on what was advocated for in that meeting and it did not seem tailored for individual children, rather much of it was supplying parents with information which they could then use to advocate for change in their local districts as well as an a state-wide basis.

I find the organization seeks to empower parents to act and gives them skills to act. So there is a state-wide advocacy component as well as a more local or individualized one. I ask again, how is it bad for parents to want to be involved in improving things (whether for their own children or for our collective children). We ask that of parents constantly. Now you are condemning them for it? Sounds fairly hypocritical to me. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying?
Lisa mom of two

Waterbury, CT

#17 Oct 22, 2007
lew day wrote:
Parent Advocacy is NOT linked to better student performance
Parent involvement is often linked to increased student achievement (in the popular press) and while in my heart I believe that's true, I have sought out information on exactly how that works.

Not sure I ever see specific info. on how that statement is arrived at and why it is true.
Connecticut Mom

Glastonbury, CT

#18 Oct 22, 2007
Thank you Lisa, I too ask, why is everyone so hostile and putting down a positive ? Geez, some well meaning, involved Parents are damned if they do, damned if they don't. I wish I had known about this meeing, I definitly would have attended. I will however, visit the website.
Lisa mom of two wrote:
I think its interesting to see that such a positive event (who can argue against parents advocating for better things for all children) can be met with such hostility in these forums.
The event was what it was...parents seeking out positive change for the State's children.
One wonders wear all this hostility comes from.

“Old Guard, Hardcore Geek”

Since: Sep 07

Woodbridge, CT

#19 Oct 22, 2007
For people who want to see the relationship between parental advocacy and student performance, I would recommend starting with the report at National Middle School Association

http://www.nmsa.org/Research/ResearchSummarie...

Key findings include:

Parent involvement leads to improved educational performance (Epstein et al., 2002; Fan & Chen, 2001; NMSA, 2003; Sheldon & Epstein, 2002; Van Voorhis, 2003).

Parent involvement fosters better student classroom behavior (Fan & Chen, 2001; NMSA, 2003).

Parent involvement improves school attendance (Epstein et al., 2002).

To cite just a few examples.
An American

Windsor, CT

#20 Oct 22, 2007
When the government dangles all these intitlements, It makes the Welfare State grow.
It also controls the people, who generally act like sheep and follow the shepherd right to the slaughter.

The schools don't give the parents much say, and the parents are who the school system is suppose to work for.
The government has no business even being envolved with education. Schools should all be privatized. With the 56 Billion dollars the federal government rapes from people for education. People could send their child to a school of their our choice, based on what they want their child being taught.
Parents need to take responsiblity for their childrens best interest, and the government should keep it's nose where it does'nt belong, allowing the free market to work, that's what made this a Great Country at one time.

People should stop looking to our corrupt politicans, and our Bloated Government as Mommy and Daddy, asking for their monthly allowance.

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