HU players take coaching change in st...

HU players take coaching change in stride

There are 11 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Jan 27, 2009, titled HU players take coaching change in stride. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

On Friday, Daryell Walker made his college choice, verbally committing to play football at Hampton.

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HU Fball Player FACTS 1

Hampton, VA

#1 Jan 27, 2009
I decided to write this because I as well as many of my teammates dont think the facts of this situation with Coach Holmes are being said in the public eye and media. I hope these facts wont be returned with threats or attacks to our football program by the administration.
First off there is no better Head Coach than Jerry Holmes. I also played while he was the Defensive Coordinator at HU and as the Head Coach. The kids love him because he brings more to the table than X's & O's. You tell me a head coach that uses his own money to bring kids to the doctor when the administration won't? A head coach that will get on the phone and try to get you a job, opportunity at grad school, internships, or even a tryout with a pro team? There is no one like that. Plus all that he had to put up with is ridiculous: 1) Compliance person who knows nothing about compliance (secretary in school museum then promoted to director of compliance). We had players cleared to come into HU on scholarship by her but then find out day of game they cant play even they were told they could prior now they have a bill of 17K even though they signed a scholarship saying they were cleared. This happen to about six of our projected starters. 2) Coaches having to hold various positions due to insufficient staffing 3) Insufficient academic support resources for players. 4) poor facilities (please see our locker room, its never been cleaned or sterilized).
Second thing is as one of the former Pirates stated you can't expect to retain good coaches when you pay assistants 29-40K a year, and only 90,000 thousand to the Head Coach. Put this in perspective the Offensive Coordinator at FAMU is making 93 thousand a year, average assistant 65K and Coach Taylor 200K. Would you want to basically make the same as someone working at Walmart, when you work over 70hrs a week? Hell No.
HU Fball Player FACTS 2

Hampton, VA

#2 Jan 27, 2009
Third thing, Holmes has been going to the Senior Bowl year after year prior to even becoming the head coach, as any coach in the USA does to 1) Meet with other head coaches. 2) Market the schools players. Look at HU since he arrived back in 2004, there has been a player drafted almost every year, and numbers signed to free agent contracts. None of this was evident prior to his return.
I wish Coach Rose the best, but is this the best thing for HU? Honestly NO. HU's defense went from being the tops in the past when Holmes was the defensive coordinator then Rose takes over and we finish 7th in the've got to be kidding me. And then he's demoted from being he Defensive Coordinator following the this past season, with the recommendation from the AD and today he is named Head Coach? But we award him the title of Head Coach now? I understand he has been at HU for many many years but yet he never advanced to the defensive coordinator position under Taylor for 16 years for a legitimate reason, he wasn't fit for the position and 2008's season was a clear sign of that. Another thing to look at is that in 2008 when Taylor left, Rose wasn't a qualified candidate in the eyes of the administration & the same AD to become he Head coach then, but a year later he is what the university states as the guy they need for the program? Not good enough then but now he is? I really hope this hire doesn't put the dagger in the HU's winning tradition. I also hope this hire wasn't just done because Rose is the cousin of the president which he always makes sure to remind us of.
As for the AD, he is killing HU athletics as a whole. He is not respected by alumni or the athletes at HU. Its hard to admire a man that cant make decisions on his own and has others around him make the decision for him. Its also discouraging when you hear someone preaching character to us but at the same token is seen daily leaving the schools on-campus watering tavern (Katherine house)after throwing down a couple cold beverages tipsy then hopping into his car. Or fraternizing with other staff members right in the open with no shame. As a student-athlete how can you look up to this or respect these actions. Accountability should be two-fold. This is not the SWAC, this is a first class MEAC school, so lets put an end to allowing people bring down HU. I look back at the overall performance for all sports on & off the field and there is significant drop off. Mediocre records, major academic issues and campus issues are not what we are about at HU. Bring back Taylor or Avery and things would be better off. They were both respected & admired by all.
I Love my H-I-U and just want to see us excel and be prosperous again. Lets start by keeping men that can change our program for the better and get rid of those that don't represent the blue and white.

Since: Jan 09


#3 Jan 28, 2009
why did Hampton fired offensive coordinator Corey Sullivan?
Is It Just Me

Hampton, VA

#4 Jan 28, 2009
"HU Fball Player FACTS" this was well written point of view. I call it a point of view because the only facts are those presented by HU admin. I am a former employee and HU admin doesn't take to kindly to opposing points of views from staff or students. Believe that! Remember the Hampton Script fiasco?
Yorktown Jim

Culpeper, VA

#5 Jan 28, 2009
Anyone who knows anything about HU knows that the AD is not the one calling the shots--it's always Bill Harvey. As others have said, dissent or opposing points of view are not tolerated (my family experienced this first-hand) and I'm sure Holmes did or said something to tick King Harvey off. You have to have blind and complete devotion or you're out...
Unfortunately King Harvey is more intrested in promoting himself and building new buildings than fixing many of the internal problems plaguing HU. Their older facilities are in dire need of upgrades and their internal operations/systems(finance, payroll, etc.) are in pathetic shape. It's a shame!
Harvey has done a lot for HU in the past 30 years but it's time for some new blood!

New York, NY

#6 Jan 28, 2009
This is amazing to fire someone looking for a better opportunity. I am sure the AD would be at Hampton for life since he feels a sence of loyalty means not looking for better opportunities. SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE who is a puppet for the PRESIDENT.
show me the money

New York, NY

#7 Jan 28, 2009
If you all paid your coaches you would not have coaches looking for more LOOT. Based on what you all pay your coaches you can not be surprise when they go looking for more money or better opportunities. NOW I KNOW WHY COACH TAYLOR LEFT NOW.
Information required

New York, NY

#8 Jan 28, 2009
After reading that the new coach is the cousin of the president...I wonder how much of a rasie WILL the new coach get. TRANSPARENCY makes one not talk...WE ALL WANT TO KNOW KING HARVEY.

New York, NY

#9 Jan 28, 2009
Sounds as if someone hit a nerve based on IS IT JUST ME comment. You might have been part of the problem and the establishment still have you brained washed. I have worked in corporate america for 25 years and administation do not have facts they only have people like you. Let the student speak because they live the life you only work there. Now I get must be the one they were talking about STUPID ME
Is It Just Me

Hampton, VA

#10 Jan 29, 2009
STUPID ME wrote:
Sounds as if someone hit a nerve based on IS IT JUST ME comment. You might have been part of the problem and the establishment still have you brained washed. I have worked in corporate america for 25 years and administation do not have facts they only have people like you. Let the student speak because they live the life you only work there. Now I get must be the one they were talking about STUPID ME
Whoaaa, pump your brakes STUPID. Did you go to Hampton? Harvey family? Admin only releases stories that will only benefit HU, even if it means, dare I say it, lying. I am sure the students post was correct. So was the article in the script that was pulled for no other reason other than it painted HU in an unfavorable light. I worked in finance were most of the cover ups begin. I got tired of working for an institution where I didn't have a voice and I had to do things that did not follow GAAP standards. Ask any student, prof, staff if they have a voice and 8 of 10 will say @#*! no.

STUPID reread the post again and try to get the real understanding.
HU Alum

Dallas, TX

#11 Jan 29, 2009
I must agree with the points made by HU Fball, Is It Just Me, and Yorktown Jim. I graduated from HU in 2005, and worked in various organizations that dealt with Dr. Harvey and the administration. The three posters' points hit the nail on the head with the issues at Hampton. Not to throw my alma mater under the bus, but most associated with HU (faculty, staff, students, or alumni) know not to challenge the administration. Cases in point: the Hampton Script issue as mentioned, as well as the sit-in staged on campus about two or three years ago. Not to say I don't respect what Dr. Harvey has done in 30+ years, but there are some things that should be addressed. The buildings constructed are impressive, yet the freshman dorms continue to deteriorate. As for salary, it's no secret that HU doesn't pay very well, and Coach Joe Taylor exposed that fact last year. Hopefully, this incident won't ruin the near-dynasty that Joe built in 16 years, and bring HU Pirate football into the basement. Harvey is slowly turning into Jerry Jones with his micro-managing, and now he's lost two coaches in two years. Not a good look for recruiting. Who wants to play for a program with apparent personnel issues?

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