At Hofstra, football throws hoops for...

At Hofstra, football throws hoops for loss

There are 19 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 6, 2007, titled At Hofstra, football throws hoops for loss. In it, Newsday reports that:

Colonial times remain tough for Hofstra. In the aftermath of yet another disappointment, albeit this time of its own making, the question that must be asked is why Hofstra plays basketball in the Colonial ...

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bemused

Westbury, NY

#1 Mar 6, 2007
HU's admin. has always been flaky about its goals. The real loss in the Colonial League is that HU is not a southern school. Our fan base can't really get to many away games and the rivalries just have not developed. We would be better off playing up north and develop some rivalries.
I-AA Football Fan

Cedar Knolls, NJ

#2 Mar 6, 2007
At the end of the piece the writer questions why the I-AA football program at Hofstra would schedule games against I-A programs. Aside from the desire to test themselves against higher level teams one obvious reason that I-AA football programs play I-A programs is for the guaranteed money that comes from the game. Many I-A teams want to start their seasons off with "easy" home games and one way to furnish these relatively easy opponents is to schedule I-AA teams. The deal includes a monetary guarantee from the I-A school that ensures the I-AA team gets a reasonably good payday from the game, often in the $200K -$400K range. That money can be used to cover part of the expenses for the football program for the rest of their season. Occasionally the I-AA team ends up winning, providing another incentive to playing these games.
John Frew

Hollis, NY

#3 Mar 6, 2007
Much like Hofstra's shooting in the CAA tournament vs. George Mason your premise is totally off the mark. By any means of evaluation, Hofstra Basketball, and the entire athletic program is far better off in the CAA than in the America East. Take a look at quality of opponents, attendance, media exposure and multiple bid opportunities and there is no comparision between the conferences. This year at least two and possibly three CAA schools will go to the NCAA's with at least one school, hopefully Hofstra, advancing to the the NIT.
Yes, playing in Richmond for the Conference title is tough for a nothern school, but if Hofstra did what it was supposed to do, and took care of business at Delaware and Northeastern and beat Drexel at home instead of blowing a 14 point lead, we would now be extolling the virtues of a League that receives multiple NCAA bids.
Redmen9194

United States

#4 Mar 6, 2007
Hofstra made the right move to the CAA. If you want to be a good program you have to play the better competition, especially if you are a mid-major. Basketball is cyclical for the vast majority of teams, and more so for mid-majors. If Hofstra stayed in the America East, there is no guarantee that they would win the conference tourny every year and that is what they would need to do. The CAA may only get two bids, but its better than just one and it gives Hofstra more exposure. With St. John's making its slow climb back, Hofstra has positioned itself well. Do you think they would have been invited to the Holiday Festival so many times in the past few years if they were in the America East Conference?
Rocky Piaggione

Potomac, MD

#5 Mar 6, 2007
I totally agree with the thought here. Why should Hofstra face a basketball schedule that assures them facing 75% regional prejudice in their conference games? If you look at some of their road games- the ODU game comes to mind in particular - they always up against officiating that is highly suspect and a much more extensive travel schedule. They should relocate to a confrence where there is an even playing field for all teams.
The Observer

AOL

#6 Mar 6, 2007
Redmen9194 wrote:
Hofstra made the right move to the CAA. If you want to be a good program you have to play the better competition, especially if you are a mid-major. Basketball is cyclical for the vast majority of teams, and more so for mid-majors. If Hofstra stayed in the America East, there is no guarantee that they would win the conference tourny every year and that is what they would need to do. The CAA may only get two bids, but its better than just one and it gives Hofstra more exposure. With St. John's making its slow climb back, Hofstra has positioned itself well. Do you think they would have been invited to the Holiday Festival so many times in the past few years if they were in the America East Conference?
The problem is Hofstra chose the wrong conference. The Atlantic 10, although a notch above the CAA, would've been a much better fit. Several of the teams (Fordham, Temple, LaSalle, Duquesne, Rhode Island, St. Joseph's, GW, UMASS) are right around the corner and competition wouldn't be too much for the Pride (they beat St. Joe's in the Holiday Festival). Of course there is a question as to whether the A 10 would take Hofstra. But the A 10 offers equal, if not more, exposure. And historically (at least over the last 16-17 years, it has been a multi-bid conference. The A 10 is the perfect fit.
V Clayton

Eddyville, KY

#7 Mar 6, 2007
You have the usual blinded Northeast vision on 1AA Football. Also if Hofstra can't compete in the Colonial maybe they don't deserve to be in the NCAA.
Maybe you should ask the fans at Montana, Ga Southern, Appalachian State, ec.. how they view 1AA. Less talented than D1A teams but hardly less exciting!
They are scheduling D1A teams, as all D1AAs do, to help pay the Athletic Budget. That has nothing to do with moving to D1A.
You are a typical Northeast Sportswriter; you know nothing about College Sports.
Sammy Seawolf

Edison, NJ

#8 Mar 6, 2007
Steve, you've never been so right! Division 1 AA football will get your school ZERO exposure. I bet very few people know that Appalachian State won the 1AA title last fall. Of those few that know they won, they probably still couldn't tell you where App State is located. Getting your men's basketball team in the NCAA tourney is like gold - it is the ultimate exposure. A good basketball team will lead to increased enrollment and overall positive exposure. My only hope is that the administration at Stony Brook doesn't make the same mistake as Hofstra - choosing a conference for football affiliation. Go seawolves!
Hofstra Alum

United States

#9 Mar 6, 2007
Let's face it, Hofstra didn't deserve a spot in the NCAA Tournament this year. This year's team was the Wounded Pride because they lost to some awful teams and lacked the depth, discipline, defense and mental toughness to rise to the CAA championship. Stokes aside, this team falls short of the Hofstra team that earned two consecutive trips to the NCAA Tournament in the 1970s, led by Coach Roger Gaeckler, prolific scorer Richie Laurel (a first-round draft choice of the Portland Trailblazers) and John Irving, one of the nation's best rebounders and shot blockers. The Speedy Claxton - Jay Wright years were good too, but Hofstra's current program, while successful in terms of wins and losses, has yet to achieve greatness under Pecora. Moving to the CAA hasn't hurt Hofstra -- the team simply didn't live up to its advance billing this year.
Ralph

Chicago, IL

#10 Mar 6, 2007
I-AA doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for months. I guess that says something about your football knowledge?
The Observer

New York, NY

#11 Mar 7, 2007
Ralph wrote:
I-AA doesn't exist anymore and hasn't for months. I guess that says something about your football knowledge?
Semantics. We all know Hofstra is still a 1AA school. And even if the NCAA doesn't refer to it as 1AA anyone who follows football will think of it as 1AA football.
Steve

Bronx, NY

#12 Mar 8, 2007
bemused wrote:
HU's admin. has always been flaky about its goals. The real loss in the Colonial League is that HU is not a southern school. Our fan base can't really get to many away games and the rivalries just have not developed. We would be better off playing up north and develop some rivalries.
I understand Hofstra's goals for their sports progams but I agree that they chose the wrong conference. Marcas is definitely right about this and I really appreciate his point, but what took him so long to figure this out? I recognized the problem right away as did many other fans. The Atlantic 10 would have been a much better choice. I also wonder why coach Pecora can't seem to recruit a couple big guys to play down low?
Scott Linden-PhD

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Mar 12, 2007
I am a Hoftsra basketball season ticket holder since 2000 and have a Ph.D. in clinical-school psychology from Hofstra. This was a fantastic and very accurate news article. The northern teams in CAA basketball earn no respect, as Drexel was just given the shaft by the NCAA. Hoftsra would have been dancing the past 2 years if they had joined the Atlantic Ten. Their recruiting ability is going to go downhill, as no good high school player will want to play for a college that won't make the NCAA tournament. The athletic directors at Hofstra University are incompetent and think 'small'. Who cares about Division 1AA football? Can anyone name a divsion 1AA football power? The past 2 years, the 2 representatives to the NCAA from the CAA are Southern Colonial teams. Hoftsra and Drexel are left out. Old Dominion draws an overseeded mid-major team they can easily beat in the NCAA tournament. Last year, once Mason got to the sweet 16, they played two 'home' games. VCU has an easy draw in the NCAA. Richmond left the Colonial for the Atlantic Ten. Hoftstra left the America East to play in a Conference whose tourney is in Richmond. To win the toorney this year, Hofstra would have had to defeat 3 Virginia teams, Mason, ODU and VCU. That's three road games in 3 days. Stony Brook will dance before Hofstra. At this point in time, Hoftsra became, arguably, the best team in the New York area. Beginning next year, the team will implode and probably will never recover as a CAA basketball power. If this is how administration is treating the basketball program and its fans, they will quickly lose season ticket holders and attendance will plummet. Also, who is scheduling such poor bracket buster opponents? Sienna last year and Holy Cross this year. The refs in this conference are horrible toward Hoftsra, and so is O'Connor, who is on the NCAA committee. So what do we get out of the CAA? Nothing. We werre flying high with Jay Wright in the America East, and would fly high in the Atlantic 10 or Big East.
Scott Linden-PhD

Brooklyn, NY

#14 Mar 12, 2007
Redmen9194 wrote:
Hofstra made the right move to the CAA. If you want to be a good program you have to play the better competition, especially if you are a mid-major. Basketball is cyclical for the vast majority of teams, and more so for mid-majors. If Hofstra stayed in the America East, there is no guarantee that they would win the conference tourny every year and that is what they would need to do. The CAA may only get two bids, but its better than just one and it gives Hofstra more exposure. With St. John's making its slow climb back, Hofstra has positioned itself well. Do you think they would have been invited to the Holiday Festival so many times in the past few years if they were in the America East Conference?
Reply: Their first two wins in the Holiday Festival, and three straight Holiday Festival appearances were as members of the America East. They appeared in the Holiday Festival only one time as a CAA team, and were considered the road team against St. Joseph's in the first round. As an America East team, they were treated better at the Holiday Festival.
Redmen9194

United States

#15 Mar 12, 2007
If Hofstra is having problems competing in the CAA, and I don't think they are, how would they be able to compete in The A-10? Also, they are not a Big East caliber team and should concentrate on being a power in the CAA which has some good teams and can get a program like Hofstra to the NCAAs at least once within a four year cycle. If Hofstra had beaten who they were supposed to during the regular season in conference, the conference tourney would not have mattered as they would have been either the top or second seed in the conference. The question is not how many teams from major conferences they can pick off each year, it's how consistent they can be during the grind of a conference schedule. Hofstra is getting what it needs right now - good press. The loctaion of the conference tournament really does not matter. Do you think Louisville, or DePaul, or Georgetown is complaining that the Big East Tournament is in New York every year at the home court of a conference member? Hofstra will be fine.
G Mason Fan

Springfield, VA

#16 Mar 13, 2007
I am late to commenting on this article, but I have to say its a stretch to call George Mason a 'southern' school. Think more DC suburban. That said, it is true that Virginia schools are and have been the core of the CAA, but it has expanded beyond that, and now covers most of the major markets of the Atlantic coast.

I met some of the Hofstra fans in their trip to our 'house' this year, and it was both fun and (relatively) non-combative. If Hofstra decides to leave the CAA, so be it, but I doubt they will find a better conference.
Daniel

United States

#17 Mar 28, 2007
I think Hofstra would do better in the A10. I live in Richmond and I go to a few of the Richmond Spiders (A10) games every year. In the last few years, there has not been anyone who has run away with it like VCU ran the table on the CAA this year. Hofstra was the 3rd best team in the CAA. I think they could win the A10. Go for it. HOO HOO HOFSTRA.
daniel

Stafford, VA

#18 May 12, 2007
I think it would be great if Hofstra moved its basketball team to the A10. No one ran away with the A10 this year, and I think the Pride would destroy everyone else.
DCB12

AOL

#19 Jun 22, 2007
I care about 1-AA football because I play 1-AA football. Try not to be so close-minded when generalizing others opinions.

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