Bulldogs thrive as road warriors

Bulldogs thrive as road warriors

There are 33 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 7, 2008, titled Bulldogs thrive as road warriors. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

This counts as a road victory, even though there were more fans wearing Butler blue than cheering for Loyola.

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Bulldog in Chicago

Palatine, IL

#21 Jan 8, 2008
I too was at the game last night and will say that Graves and Campbell may have been a bit off, but I didn't feel it was for lack of effort. Campbell had an off shooting night and had a couple of his 3pt attempts just barely rim out. If you look at the box scores, Loyola played their starters most of the game whereas Butler did a lot of subbing. By the end of the game, Stevens was almost subbing in Hahn and Cambell on offfense and Streicher and Betko on defense almost every change of possession. They did look a bit sloppy for a while in the first half and they were dealing with some poor officiating (especially in the first half) but in the grand scheme a win is a win. Who cares what they are ranked as long as they keep winning. Let them save up the big scoring and big plays for the Big Dance. Stevens knows enough to not overplay his hand until then.
Greg - BU 99

Chicago, IL

#22 Jan 8, 2008
Cru Jones wrote:
Not to rain on the parade, but I'm thinking a real 14th ranked team would crush some of these very small schools.
Butler seems to win by only a few.
So either butler plays to its competition or really is ranked way too high.
I was at the game last night - one thing that David didn't touch on was that Coach Stevens seemed to give a lot of playing time to younger guys/bench players. I didn't keep stats or anything but every time Loyola got within 4 or 6 the starters came back in and moved the needle to 10 or 12 and brought the subs back in.

Go Dawgs!

“Butler Wins”

Since: Jan 07

Plainfield

#23 Jan 8, 2008
pokernut wrote:
Todd, the bottom line is Graves and Campbell have not been playing that well. They are missing a lot of shots. Green and Howard have been carrying this team for the last few weeks. Green is playing at the highest level.
With that I agree. I checked foxsports.com after a reference was mentioned in the Star and found Jeff Goodman last week listed Mike as tied for 4th in the country in the player of the year race. He is the cog that makes the Dawg's machine run. Green is maybe the best point guard in college.

“Butler Wins”

Since: Jan 07

Plainfield

#24 Jan 8, 2008
Greg - BU 99 wrote:
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I was at the game last night - one thing that David didn't touch on was that Coach Stevens seemed to give a lot of playing time to younger guys/bench players. I didn't keep stats or anything but every time Loyola got within 4 or 6 the starters came back in and moved the needle to 10 or 12 and brought the subs back in.
Go Dawgs!
Good point
WBrown Memphis

Memphis, TN

#25 Jan 8, 2008
Agreed. Green Bay/Butler on ESPNU thursday
WOW

United States

#26 Jan 8, 2008
James wrote:
I live out of town and do not get to see Butler games. But, the articles I read (and I read all of them) make Butler sound really great! I did see them in the tourney last year and hope that they do well again this year. They played a much more entertaining style than IU or PU. So they don't blow people out --- they win, don't they?
We live IN TOWN don't get to see Butler games on TV! That's too bad. You would think 23 or 59 would run a game now and then.

Since: Dec 07

Plainfield

#27 Jan 8, 2008
It doesn't really do any good to play your best basketball in early January. Look at the Colts two years ago. I really think they peaked in early December leading to the playoff loss to Pittsburgh. Coach Stevens is playing the young guys more and building quality depth. He is bring Jukes and the team in general along slowly.

I see the comments about Campbell and Graves and have to chuckle a little bit. Yes, I want them to start shooting better and I think they will. However, just having them on the floor stretches the defense and makes it easier for Green to drive and Howard to work inside. Without Campbell at Wright State, for example, both Green and Howard had probably their worst games of the season. In short, this is a team and everyone is important and does their part. Graves, for example, doesn't force 20 shots a game even when he is missing as some of the Pacer guards do. He plays defense, works within the offense and works to get others open.

After the five seniors the next four guys off of the bench are three freshmen and a sophomore. Giving those guys playing time, esp. the freshmen, is going to disrupt things in the short term but in the long term your starters are going to be well rested and you are going to have quality depth. Once Jukes gets in the swing of things Butler will be ten deep.

Great job Bulldogs and coaching staff!
Boy Wonder

Covington, KY

#28 Jan 8, 2008
Go to www.chemistry.com or www.eharmony.com . You obviously need something (or someone) better to do than make inane remarks.
Cru Jones wrote:
Not to rain on the parade, but I'm thinking a real 14th ranked team would crush some of these very small schools.
Butler seems to win by only a few.
So either butler plays to its competition or really is ranked way too high.
Butler -63-in Atlanta

United States

#29 Jan 8, 2008
James wrote:
I live out of town and do not get to see Butler games. But, the articles I read (and I read all of them) make Butler sound really great! I did see them in the tourney last year and hope that they do well again this year. They played a much more entertaining style than IU or PU. So they don't blow people out --- they win, don't they?
If you have a computer (lap top ) you can get the Butler Horizon League games by going to Butlersports.com and then the link which is shown for the Horizon leage streaming of the game live -I am in Atlanta and the quality of the picture and transmission live is very good.
Valley 2

Lexington, KY

#30 Jan 8, 2008
Isn't this "little ole Loyola" the same school that won the NCAA championsip in l963? They must have been big enough back then.
BU Pharmacy Grad

Springfield, IL

#31 Jan 8, 2008
Its great to see this team lean on different players. The struggles of the top two scorers on most teams would mean disaster. But to Butler it means getting Mike and Matt more involved, and they almost always pick up the slack. That's the reason we're 14-1. Depth is much bigger for us this year than last.
Section 4

Indianapolis, IN

#32 Jan 9, 2008
A real basketball fan wrote:
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Point margin is a deceptive statistic. Butler plays a deliberate offense that uses up most the clock and their defense makes the opponent use up a lot of clock too. So, the game is actually much shorter than 40 minutes. An eleven point margin would be more comparable to a 25 point win.
This is a great and very accurate response to the observations and thoughts about the margins of victory in Butler's games. They are very deliberate on offense and unless they have an off the chart shooting night, they will be scoring 60-70 points a game - but when you play belly button defense for 40 minutes and the other guy can't even get to 60, 66 is plenty good enough. Most coaches with an ounce of sense would gladly trade 3 or 4 spectacular dunks a night for an 80% free throw shooting percentage and an average of 10 turnovers per game.
Butler Grad up North

Rensselaer, IN

#33 Jan 9, 2008
I was at Hinkle on Saturday for the Valpo game. That was a tough game; a game that VU should have won but Butler did. 13-1

I watched the Loyola game on Ch. 56 out of Gary/Merrilville (PBS station that carries several of the Horizon Leage teams up here). Different day, same result, a BU victory. Coach did a good job of getting guys some floor time. Yes we looked rough at times and good at times. A quality, but not pretty, conference road victory for the 'Dogs.

It is the first full week of January and BU looks a little rough around the edges. Let's face it--we will lose at least one more game this season. Let's hope that we get all of the kinks worked out by late Feb./ early March.

In the meantime, our fundamental play has served us well--protecting the ball; using the game clock and shot clock to our advantage; and great free throw shooting! Keep it up 'Dogs!

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