Clemson stuns Maryland on Senior Night

Clemson stuns Maryland on Senior Night

There are 35 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Mar 2, 2008, titled Clemson stuns Maryland on Senior Night. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Terrence Oglesby nailed the tie-breaking three-pointer with 2.3 seconds remaining in the game, and Clemson erased a 20-point second-half deficit in a 73-70 victory over Maryland on Sunday night.

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The Curse

Grand Rapids, MI

#21 Mar 2, 2008
Poise and Ball-handling, Poise and Ball-handling. Whnever Clemson cranked up, neither quality was to be found for Terps. If I were Va, and anybody they play from here out, I'd press & trap Terps in waves.

Now they'll need to beat Uva twice in a row just to get to the 1/4s of the ACC.Can't wait to see which player(s) lead them out of this wilderness.
Johnnie

Towson, MD

#22 Mar 2, 2008
Dont Kid Yourself wrote:
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Ahhh again- the REFS the Stinkin' refs did a 22 point job on the Terps. Duke raises all the money to buy off the refs. And now Clemson too! You guys are pitiful. The idea that the refs beat down the poor old Terps is just exhausting. Pitiful, just pitiful.
hey a h... ur probably one of those rednecks who cried when they dared pull one ACC tourney out of tobacco road years ago...correct???
TerpbybirthTiger bychoice

Seneca, SC

#23 Mar 2, 2008
I don't think for a second that the officiating was either sided. Both teams got calls and both did not. One that comes to mind is when Oglesby was shooting a mid range jumper and was hit on the head from behind in a failed block attempt. Mays may have gotten away with a travel, seeing as he stole the ball at the other 3 point line and dribbled only once to dunk it at the other end. It wasn't the officials faults for Maryland's meltdown, just poor coaching, a lack of conditioning, and immaturity. The Tigers stuck it out and didn't give up.
Rich

Finksburg, MD

#24 Mar 2, 2008
Let's be objective about this, instead of just ranting. This loss may have been the worst regular season loss since the Duke game when they were up by 10 with a minute left. Crushing! And it boils down to one thing, and ONE THING ONLY. 21 TURNOVERS!!!! You're gonna lose 95% of the time when you have 21 turnovers, especially against a good team like Clemson. It's haunted the Terps all season, and finally caught up to them. If they would have had 8 less turnovers (which would then have put them at an average 13 turnovers) they would have won by 15 points. What's wierd about this is that it's difficult to coach. What do you say? "Be focused! Stop turning it over!" I don't think you can coach turnovers too much. Players like Blake protected the ball. Players like Vasquez bring the high turnovers with their level of play. On a side note, Chris Paul had 16 assists and only one turnover in a win the other night. Granted, he's one of the best, but it still makes a statement about the horrendous turnover problem this team has.
mike

Washington, DC

#26 Mar 2, 2008
Tough game to watch (was there in person). Team just has not learned how to close a team out. If any good came out of this, both Bowie and Burney had outstanding games. As much as this loss hurts the season is not over. Need a win @Virgina and a couple in the tournament. By the way, I am tired of the criticism of Gary Williams and Vasquez! What loss the game was turnovers from mostly Milbourne and Hayes(who could not handle the press) As Gary said after the game, his team will stay strong and he hopes Maryland fans stay strong. Lets give them a shot.
Chris

Fairfax, VA

#27 Mar 2, 2008
This team is painful to watch, somehow I had a feeling that Clemson was going to make a run but when we were up by 20 we shouldn't blow that. Sunday at Virginia is a must win and we need to at least make it to the semis in the ACC tourney, if we even want a shot to get into the tourtament.
Jason

Newark, NJ

#28 Mar 2, 2008
Alot of things Maryland did wrong and Clemson did right in that 2nd half.. First of all, why the fvck would you milk the clock up double digits when theres at least 9-10 minutes left in the game.. You know, I'm glad Maryland lost this game. Serves these morons right. You think you have a game won just because your up 20, but you know that doesn't mean a damn thing if your not gonna play defense and your gonna carelessly turn the ball over. Clemson did a great job putting pressure on Marylands shots, contesting the shots and forcing turnovers..

Clemson deserved this win. Congrats Clemson, and fvck you Maryland
Jason

Newark, NJ

#29 Mar 2, 2008
Chris wrote:
This team is painful to watch, somehow I had a feeling that Clemson was going to make a run but when we were up by 20 we shouldn't blow that. Sunday at Virginia is a must win and we need to at least make it to the semis in the ACC tourney, if we even want a shot to get into the tourtament.
I hope they lose BIG TIME... I hope Virginia wipes the floor with them, after the lead they gave up tonight, MARYLAND is on my black list. they can stick it
TerpbybirthTiger bychoice

Seneca, SC

#30 Mar 2, 2008
Rich wrote:
Let's be objective about this, instead of just ranting. This loss may have been the worst regular season loss since the Duke game when they were up by 10 with a minute left. Crushing! And it boils down to one thing, and ONE THING ONLY. 21 TURNOVERS!!!! You're gonna lose 95% of the time when you have 21 turnovers, especially against a good team like Clemson. It's haunted the Terps all season, and finally caught up to them. If they would have had 8 less turnovers (which would then have put them at an average 13 turnovers) they would have won by 15 points. What's wierd about this is that it's difficult to coach. What do you say? "Be focused! Stop turning it over!" I don't think you can coach turnovers too much. Players like Blake protected the ball. Players like Vasquez bring the high turnovers with their level of play. On a side note, Chris Paul had 16 assists and only one turnover in a win the other night. Granted, he's one of the best, but it still makes a statement about the horrendous turnover problem this team has.
I agree with this to an extent, but if Vasquez is causing so many turnovers in a certain game as important as this, as a coach you leave the kid on the bench for a little. It seemed that Gary was playing conservative with a 20 point lead, yet Vasquez wasn't and he was still trying to make the big play. Maryland needs a guard that can control the ball and control the game at a slower pace for these kinds of conditions. That's why Steve Blake was such a better PG, he could run at all tempos. Vasquez definitely has the talent he just needs to keep his cool sometimes and slow it down...after all he is only a sophomore. So to an extent I'd say you can't blame coaching for turnovers, but if you can pick out who is causing the turnovers then why can't you take them out of the game for a few minutes.
BDD

United States

#32 Mar 3, 2008
mike wrote:
Tough game to watch (was there in person). Team just has not learned how to close a team out. If any good came out of this, both Bowie and Burney had outstanding games. As much as this loss hurts the season is not over. Need a win @Virgina and a couple in the tournament. By the way, I am tired of the criticism of Gary Williams and Vasquez! What loss the game was turnovers from mostly Milbourne and Hayes(who could not handle the press) As Gary said after the game, his team will stay strong and he hopes Maryland fans stay strong. Lets give them a shot.
You are a fool.

Turnovers are all about coaching and ball handling. Hence Gary and Greivis are the biggest offenders.

Teaching a team to break the press is coaching 101 and Gary failed miserably.

Two or three turnovers are OK wit the press, but 9 or 10 is downright ridiculous.

Also, at what point did Gary tell his team to hold the ball until the last 10 seconds of each posession?

He obviously didn't tell them to do that because if he did, we'd be talking about a W today.

Gary has become utterly too complacent since 2002. The recruiting has suffered and the coaching has suffered.

Criticism of Gary over the past four seasons is 100% warranted.

Stop kidding yourself.
mdi4461

Longview, TX

#33 Mar 3, 2008
Great Game
BDD

United States

#34 Mar 3, 2008
By the way Mike, Vasquez had 7 turnovers on his own.

Hayes and Milbourne combined for 7. How is it their fault?

Do your research before making ridiculous comments.
Eric

Beltsville, MD

#35 Mar 3, 2008
FireGary.com

This domain name isn't registered yet, but I think it will be within a week. Winning at UVa is always tough, and 8-8 in the ACC won't cut it this year. Not even close! If the Terps also lose in the first round of the ACC Tournament, they might even be passed over by the NIT. That would be a good thing, as we wouldn't want a repeat of 2006 when the Terps lost to Manhattan.

What else can be said after blowing a 20-point lead with 11 minutes left? This team is soft, it can't close games. Either that, or it can't open games, falling so far behind early that it's too much to overcome. Whichever option the Terps choose, it leads to failure, as it has for most of the past six seasons. The program is treading water, as it has since 2002, and many fans have had enough of it. Time's up, Gary.

Take away the national title, Final Four appearance and ACC Tournament title, and Gary is an ordinary coach. He can't continue living off these accomplishments forever. On the other hand, take away one national title, one Final Four appearance and one ACC title from Mike Krzyzewski and he's still one of the all-time greats. And, as we have seen, if his team suffers through a 'rebuilding' year, it never follows it up with another one, let alone five in a row.
Jason

Newark, NJ

#36 Mar 3, 2008
Maryland is on my BLACK LIST
Jason

Newark, NJ

#38 Mar 3, 2008
Maryland can kiss my arse. Bunch of failures!!!!!!!!!!

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