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SevernDave

Fort George G Meade, MD

#1 Mar 4, 2008
As long as Vasquez has the ball in his hands at the end of these games, the turnovers and the ridiculous shot selections will continue and the TERPS will lose the close ones. Gary really needs to play Bowie, Burney, Dupree, and Tucker more often so we can get ready for next year. Let's face it, even if they make the Big Dance, they ain't goin' far!!! For some reason, these guys just CANNOT finish games! They play hard, develop nice leads, then go to sleep.
gary

Ellicott City, MD

#2 Mar 4, 2008
Good comment, Vasquez personally has lost about 6 games this year. Averages over 8 turnovers a game. You will never win with that. Sunday game might be the worst in Maryland's history. Totally embarrassing. They don't deserve to be in the tournament, plain and simple.
SRB

Laurel, MD

#3 Mar 4, 2008
Love Gary Wiliams but isn't it about time he came under some serious scrutiny from the administration? He earned some capital with his national title but that can't carry him forever. At some point he needs to deliver again and that hasn't happened in a long time. Even if the Terps do make the NCAAs which is next to impossible, this isn't a team that's going to go anywhere and isn't that the point? Have we become satisfied with just making the playoffs? Isn't the point to win the thing or at least make a serious run? His recruiting is such that he hasn't had the horses to make a serious run at the title since he won it. Change can be very beneficial and it certainly appears like this is the right time to change head basketball coaches. You did a good job Gary. But, this program needs a boost both in its recruiting and performance that you can no longer deliver.
Dawg

Rosedale, MD

#4 Mar 4, 2008
Ha! Now start following a real team in Catonsville.
Why MI Writing

Ellicott City, MD

#5 Mar 4, 2008
I read a lot of persuasive blogs last night regarding Gary, and both guards, Osby and then freshmen (?) Bowie and Burney. I like Walker and Dupree. The only thing that matters now is next season, and I don't mean to be dismal. Gary's not leaving & in some respects I think the fact that he toned down somewhat on the sidelines is a personal achievement. Coach K for all that Duke has in resources is still the same intimidator he always was. And for all the talent NC and Duke have this MD team did ok against them, notwithstanding the fact that they fell to American etc. The local poll has the Terps behind UMBC. There’s something burning in the kitchen.
So I wonder w/o all the talk of talent and recruiting whether MD should be an ACC team in the future. Maybe it's time MD as a university decide whether it wants to support this level of competition. As a tuition payer I wouldn't want to see money drained further for a losing cause. I'm from NY and we like to see winners when we're paying.
Look around. Can MD honestly compete in recruiting when it has GTown nearby? Not with III there as the coach. But to be fair I heard and the stats may not bear me out that Jim B at Cuse has not done any better since Carmelo left. Carmelo is another local talent who got away and that irked me. I am not an insider so I guess the Carrier Dome had more let us say limelight than the Center.
One blogger doubted there was talent that left for other schools after playing high school ball here. I don't think we can really consider the private schools who red shirt and give other bonafides to induce players out of state to be playing on the same level playing field as recruits who attend College Park. I may be wrong. And there are plenty of stories which may or may not exaggerate the use of steroids at least in football and HTH in basketball which also takes young men to another school. And that's more than one school for all I know. But besides Duke there are any number of schools thruout the season who have mentioned local talent that was pried away from College Park. I want to know why they don’t get recruited here and that’s not a stab at the youth who do go here.
Is that GW's fault? Is it something personal as some conclude? I dunno. But I think the most critical point I read over and over was the lackluster play of the two starting guards and the inability of the center to compete against Clemson on so many levels. That alone fired up more comments that said the younger men should be playing because they are stronger, faster, and in my opinion tougher. Today there is so much talent for so few spots in the NBA that its very difficult if not crazy to recruit against a school that year in and year out sends not one but two and in one case the whole starting lineup to the NBA that there should be recognition of this fact. Last night was another Sr. nite and watching KANSAS play the commentators announced that the whole lineup which replaced the seniors would be in the NBA soon. What is the point of these guys competing? What's the point of a big time school scheduling a small time component with the exception of those that are building a program like the Zags did?
Frank

Gaithersburg, MD

#6 Mar 4, 2008
I listened to a James Gist interview before the game and he was complementing Gary Williams saying that Williams was a hard taskmaster during Gist's 4 years and it had helped him grow as a player. But I thought the most telling thing is Gist's other comment that it depended on the player as to how they react to Gary's coaching style. That's the troubling point, Gary apparently has only one coaching style and it seems most players just tune him out late in the year. When you look around at the really elite teams you see one thing they have in common, the players play hard for 40 minutes every game. We can't say that for the Maryland and I lay that the feet of the coach. Hopefully it is not too late for this team to regroup and play the way they are capable. The game at Virginia and the ACC Tournament will tell the story. Go Terps!
Johnny

United States

#9 Mar 4, 2008
Needs to win next four????? Do you even follow college hoops? There is near consensus from national bball analysts that MD would get into the dance by beating UVA and getting one win in the ACC tourney. The bubble is very very weak this year...get a clue.
BDD

United States

#10 Mar 4, 2008
Why MI Writing wrote:
ISo I wonder w/o all the talk of talent and recruiting whether MD should be an ACC team in the future. Maybe it's time MD as a university decide whether it wants to support this level of competition. As a tuition payer I wouldn't want to see money drained further for a losing cause. I'm from NY and we like to see winners when we're paying.
Look around. Can MD honestly compete in recruiting when it has GTown nearby? Not with III there as the coach.
You're joking, right? MD has been a top tier program for decades, ever since Lefty came in and shook up the system.
Georgetown had several years when they weren't even on the same level as MD. In fact, the Terps beat them handily in the NCAA tourney in '01. We're not losing that many recruits to G-town. Also, bear in mind that the Big East has much more lax standards as far as academics when it comes to recruiting. We can thank JT Sr. for that, after he ranted, raved and played the race card back in the '80's.
There is no excuse for the largest school in the state to be so poor at recruiting. Gary has let far to many top quality local players get away.
It has nothing to do with Maryland as a school and everything to do with Gary as a recruiter.
The bottom line is that it will always be tough to recruit as more and more universities elevate their programs.
Unfortunately, Gary's formula that used to work in the recruiting arena is no longer feasible in the current environment.
FYI - MD is a charter member of the ACC. They aren't going anywhere.
BDD

United States

#11 Mar 4, 2008
By the way - was it just me or did Bowie look like a really solid ball handler the other night?

Seems to me, he should be running the point.
Jon

Takoma Park, MD

#12 Mar 4, 2008
Markus, its amazing how little you know about what you are supposed to be an expert on. Truly a testament to the fine establishment that is the Baltimore Sun. Terps get 20 wins and they are are in.
Sam

Laurel, MD

#13 Mar 4, 2008
First off, I think a few people are going just a little overboard.

I think someone said that "Gary should be fired and slapped in the face for doing nothing but destroying the Terps bball program." Gary took over the program when it was on probation, and then led it to a national championship as well as a 10+ year run of consecutive NCAA tournament appearances. People are under the impression that Maryland is Duke or North Carolina, and it just isn't. We will never consistently get the same caliber of players as those schools.

Gary, despite his shortcomings as a recruiter, puts out a competitive team every year. If someone were to evaluate our program over the last decade, we'd have to rank as the 3rd most successful program in the conference behind UNC and Duke. It was a bad loss, but overall, considering there's really only 2 good players on the team, Gary has done a decent job coaching this team up.

Also, I'm not sure the writers at the Sun appreciate how weak the bubble is this year. Markus said that we might have to reach the ACC final to make the tournament, yet every tournament prognosticator across the country still has us in after the Clemson loss. Beating UVA and winning 2 ACC tournament games will lock us in the NCAA's, and beating UVA and winning 1 ACC tournament game will probably get us in, but it will be close. If we reach the ACC final, we'll not only be in but we'll be looking at a 7 or 8 seed.
Greivas Vasquez

Annapolis, MD

#14 Mar 4, 2008
URBeneathme wrote:
Does anyone know why Braxton Dupree doesn't get ample playing time?
I mean why in the hell does GW give a kid a scholarship but refuses to play him until is sophmore year? Meanwhile the kid loses a crap load of confidence and basically has to be rebuilt the next 3 years. what a waste, he's only a big strong kid.
He doesn't play because his conditioning is terrible.
bob m

Santa Rosa, CA

#15 Mar 4, 2008
vasquez needs to be told to
sit down after his turnovers during
the game. he needs to sit and
watch other players control the
ball and not try to make every play
a magic johnson highlight.

winning basketball is about
utilizing the clock and making
good passes when the opportunity
presents itself.. vasquez you are
not earl the pearl.....

Frank

Baltimore, MD

#19 Mar 4, 2008
They just rip your heart out!
Calterp

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Mar 4, 2008
Don, are you even paying attention? If the Terps beat UVA and win their first game in the ACC Tourney, they should squeak into the Big Dance. If they beat UVA and win two in the ACC Tourney, it's hard to see them not making it considering how many bubble teams will have losing conference records.
fkterp

Miami, FL

#21 Mar 4, 2008
good thing you gw bashers are not kentucky fans. you'd be hanging out their coaches house with a shotgun. first to the comment i read asking why dupree doesn't play. because he is out of shape, plays extremely soft and is not ready at this time to play big time college basketball. to the comment about bowie runing the point. get real. he's not that good a ball handler. he is great drving to the basket and he has no confidence in his outside shot. he's an off guard. all the starters on this team need to play reasonably well for the team to win or one or two guys need to have big big games. no room for error with this team. as you those who would want gw to go..who would you like to see coach the terps?
JC from College Park

Washington, DC

#22 Mar 4, 2008
Before the Wake Forest game, the concensus was that if MD wins 2 of the last 3 games of the regular season then the Terps are in the NCAA tournament. Maybe a win in the ACC tournanmet would also be needed to make the case more solid. That was printed in every newspaper I read. The loss to Clemson sucked, but it does not change the scenario.
Jon

Takoma Park, MD

#23 Mar 4, 2008
URB look at the facts before you spew dumb comments. Look at the years of that zero percent graduation rate, the majority of those players are playing professionally somewhere. in addition, there are factors that dont play in to that such as people like Tahj Holden who recently graduated but doesnt get counted, or transfers out who count against the rate. The seniors this year are expected to graduate as well as most of the seniors last year.
Mike N

Laurel, MD

#24 Mar 4, 2008
URBeneathme wrote:
based on what? the kid gets 5 minutes of playtime. How do you know this?
In an interview a few weeks ago Dupree himself aluded to not being in great shape and putting on weight over the pre-season and holidays. Just look at him for that matter. The last game he played in early he was spent after a few minutes, getting stripped of the ball and slow up the floor, and outrebounded. His high school coach, Mark Amatucci, was quoted saying how he had the same problems getting the kid motivated and in shape in high school. Dupree, and previously Bowers, looked like they never thought about muscling up even though they commited to an ACC program as Juniors in high school. What were they thinking? Ever since our conditioning coach (Kirk something?) left for an NFL job, our players have looked smaller and smaller compared to a lot of teams. Our biggest dude, Osby, is a JuCo transfer. Our guards and forwards have been sticks since Blake, Dixon and that coach left. Caner Medley bulked up some, but Ibekwe only put on a little muscle in his senior year. Drew Nicholas was breakable, McRae was a twig.(Mike Jones was okay, but he had that nasty habit of making threes which would always lead to sloppy defense and a spot on the bench.) Hayes looks way overmatched and can't drive to the hoop - or even break a guy with a dribble anymore. He pulls up in the face of a pressing guard all the time now. Milbourne is no physical presence. Burnie and Bowie (all Maryland team??) look pretty tight, but they just got there this year. Kudos to them for coming in prepared. They should play more.
Anti Gary

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#25 Mar 4, 2008
BDD wrote:
<quoted text>
You're joking, right? MD has been a top tier program for decades, ever since Lefty came in and shook up the system.
Georgetown had several years when they weren't even on the same level as MD. In fact, the Terps beat them handily in the NCAA tourney in '01. We're not losing that many recruits to G-town. Also, bear in mind that the Big East has much more lax standards as far as academics when it comes to recruiting. We can thank JT Sr. for that, after he ranted, raved and played the race card back in the '80's.
There is no excuse for the largest school in the state to be so poor at recruiting. Gary has let far to many top quality local players get away.
It has nothing to do with Maryland as a school and everything to do with Gary as a recruiter.
The bottom line is that it will always be tough to recruit as more and more universities elevate their programs.
Unfortunately, Gary's formula that used to work in the recruiting arena is no longer feasible in the current environment.
FYI - MD is a charter member of the ACC. They aren't going anywhere.
You're comments are really showing your ignorance towards basketball. First of all, Georgetown lost to Maryland in the 01 tournament by just a couple of points. It wasn't an easy win for Maryland. Had JT III been the coach instead if Esherick, the Hoyas would have easily won that game. Its people like you that know nothing about Division one basketball, yet these blogs are the only place that your ignorance is even considered! Please stay in your place and let folks who have either played the game or coached the game give advice!!!!!!!! And by the way, Gary's time is just about up.

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