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The four finalists for the Heisman Trophy, from left: Auburn quarterback Cam Newton, Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore, Oregon running back LaMichael James and Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck.

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I C Dumbpeople

Delaware, OH

#1 Dec 11, 2010
Horrible choice. Other than being the best player on one of the best teams, he is beyond a doubt a cheater off the field. Apparently off the field actions have no place in the eyes of the Heisman voters and Downtown Athletic Club. Great message to send to today's youth.
Tribucks

Hilliard, OH

#2 Dec 11, 2010
Wow. So cheating on academic work, stealing a laptop, throwing it out the window and lying about it when the cops knock on the door, and selling your services to a school in the conference where "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin' " didn't deter you guys at all, huh?

Guess we should be glad you don't have MLB HOF votes.
Anonymous

Hilliard, OH

#3 Dec 11, 2010
I remeber when a QB from the suckeye u won the award...did he not take money from a booster? So, what is the difference? Both lack integrity.
baltazar

Canal Winchester, OH

#4 Dec 11, 2010
Newton is a lying cheating loser who will have to give the trophy back!
baltazar

Canal Winchester, OH

#5 Dec 11, 2010
Cant U See wrote:
I remeber when a QB from the suckeye u won the award...did he not take money from a booster? So, what is the difference? Both lack integrity.
And you can't spell you loser!
Dude

New Philadelphia, OH

#6 Dec 11, 2010
HEY BOB..........
ADDING TO Tribucks Post No. 2 comments.
What is the, I believe, last word in the qualifications for the Heisman trophy??? ISN'T INTEGRITY IT OR ONE OF THEM?

If you have any childern how would you describe INTEGRITY TO THEM without using alibi's or words, BUT,or EXCEPT.

INTEGRITY IS NOT A ONE YEAR THING..
Anonymous

Hilliard, OH

#7 Dec 11, 2010
Dude wrote:
HEY BOB..........
ADDING TO Tribucks Post No. 2 comments.
What is the, I believe, last word in the qualifications for the Heisman trophy??? ISN'T INTEGRITY IT OR ONE OF THEM?
If you have any childern how would you describe INTEGRITY TO THEM without using alibi's or words, BUT,or EXCEPT.
INTEGRITY IS NOT A ONE YEAR THING..
So, if integrity is part of it...how did Troy Smith get it? Did he not take money for the pay to play system at OSU?
Pickaway County Farmer

Columbus, OH

#8 Dec 11, 2010
Cant U See wrote:
I remeber when a QB from the suckeye u won the award...did he not take money from a booster? So, what is the difference? Both lack integrity.
Yes, Troy took money from a booster, paid it back and did his time the year before his Heisman year. Cam's father blatently attempted to sell his son's services last summer. By NCAA By-Laws, Cam is in violation whether he knew of his dad's actions or not. By giving Cam the trophy this year, they are going to be taking it back in a few years when the investigation runs it's course.

The real loosers in this situation are the rest of the Auburn football teams. Through no fault of thier own, their season will be forever tainted by his dad's selfishness. All former Heisman winners who in the space of a decade will have seen two trophys recalled due to NCAA violations.

The other real culprit in this scandel is the SEC Commissioner who knew of Cam's dad's actions prior to the season yet did nothing. He needs to answer why he allowed this situation to fester all season long.
Tribucks

Hilliard, OH

#9 Dec 11, 2010
CantUSee - The difference is that Troy admitted it, OSU self-reported it, and he paid the penalty the NCAA levied. The following year he won the Heisman.

Newton cheated, stole, lied and tried to cover it all. There is no way in hell he didn't know what his father was doing. If it were true, every parent, guardian and uncle out there could shop his player around and claim, "you can't prove he knew I was doing it."
CSD

Nashport, OH

#10 Dec 11, 2010
Newton is dirty. They will be taking his "award" back in a few years.
Terp

United States

#11 Dec 11, 2010
If you saw the ESPN interview with him a couple of days ago you know that not only did he avoid answering most of the questions asked by Chris Fowler, but Fowler failed to follow up on anything. Must have been the criteria insisted upon prior to the interview. Typical ESPN lack of credibility.
An American

Columbus, OH

#12 Dec 11, 2010
He has been a lire and a cheater for his entire collegiate career. He's going to make millions regardless. Yet again, like Bush, how many souls did you have to step on to get there, too many.

Coach Meyer wanted nothing to do with this young man. Which of the 2 do you hold in higher regard in matters of integrity?
Stuck in the Stone Age

Griffin, GA

#13 Dec 11, 2010
Andrew Luck possessed the greatest character and playing ability (& was eligible to play). That will continue to play out in the future.
Anonymous

Hilliard, OH

#14 Dec 11, 2010
Pickaway County Farmer wrote:
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Yes, Troy took money from a booster, paid it back and did his time the year before his Heisman year. Cam's father blatently attempted to sell his son's services last summer. By NCAA By-Laws, Cam is in violation whether he knew of his dad's actions or not. By giving Cam the trophy this year, they are going to be taking it back in a few years when the investigation runs it's course.
The real loosers in this situation are the rest of the Auburn football teams. Through no fault of thier own, their season will be forever tainted by his dad's selfishness. All former Heisman winners who in the space of a decade will have seen two trophys recalled due to NCAA violations.
The other real culprit in this scandel is the SEC Commissioner who knew of Cam's dad's actions prior to the season yet did nothing. He needs to answer why he allowed this situation to fester all season long.
Oh...since he gavie it back all is fine? Unreal the double standards sucknut fans have for their team. Seems to me you all are speaking outof both ends of your bodies. At least Smith knew he took it......makes me wonder how much more money is paid in the play to pay system at sucknut u. You pay'em they play!!!
John

United States

#15 Dec 11, 2010
Until Newton is cleared he should not be even considered - period!
Pickaway County Farmer

Columbus, OH

#16 Dec 11, 2010
Cant U See wrote:
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Oh...since he gavie it back all is fine? Unreal the double standards sucknut fans have for their team. Seems to me you all are speaking outof both ends of your bodies. At least Smith knew he took it......makes me wonder how much more money is paid in the play to pay system at sucknut u. You pay'em they play!!!
Unlike haters like you, Troy followed the rules from the NCAA. When he broke them he was punished and paid the price laid down by the NCAA. While the NCAA reinstatement committee reinstated him, the fact is the investigation is continuing. And they have already agreed on one portion, that his father did solict money for his signing at MSU. There is also the fact that he had verbally agreed to play at MSU, but suddenly enrolled at Auburn. A school that wasn't one he had spoken about earlier. Cam also said that his father choose the school for him which given what happened at MSU calls into question the actions at Auburn.
Dude

New Philadelphia, OH

#17 Dec 11, 2010
Cant U See wrote:
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So, if integrity is part of it...how did Troy Smith get it? Did he not take money for the pay to play system at OSU?
Not that it matters to you, but see Post No. 8.
I see just fine

Columbus, OH

#18 Dec 11, 2010
Cant U See wrote:
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So, if integrity is part of it...how did Troy Smith get it? Did he not take money for the pay to play system at OSU?
hey person -- whoever you are...professional rear-view mirror guy -- ever heard of an "ad hominem" argument? No? Well you are it. You want to avoid the persons involved presently (Newton et al) by pointing at the person who was relevant 5 years ago. You make yourself look foolish when employing such a lame tactic.
Ralph Mouth

Napa, CA

#19 Dec 11, 2010
Do you really think Newton knew nothing about what his dad was doing? Even if he was not part of it directly I'm sure he knew about indirectly. Newton is a fantastic player and deserves the title as the "best college football player". He does not deserve the title of "Heisman Trophy Winner"

Prediction: Luck will have a better pro career than Newton.
Anonymous

Hilliard, OH

#20 Dec 11, 2010
Pickaway County Farmer wrote:
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Unlike haters like you, Troy followed the rules from the NCAA. When he broke them he was punished and paid the price laid down by the NCAA. While the NCAA reinstatement committee reinstated him, the fact is the investigation is continuing. And they have already agreed on one portion, that his father did solict money for his signing at MSU. There is also the fact that he had verbally agreed to play at MSU, but suddenly enrolled at Auburn. A school that wasn't one he had spoken about earlier. Cam also said that his father choose the school for him which given what happened at MSU calls into question the actions at Auburn.
How did he follow the rules of the NCAA if he took money for the pay to play system at sucknut u? If he not gotten caught, do you think he would have told them he took the money? Please OSU fans, take the glasses off and please hold your team and players to the same standards that you hold everyone else to. Seems to me that if osu players are invloved, the standards are set a little lower than those on other teams. Admit it, Smith got caught, he should have been booted, who knows how much money he took aver his career.

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