College football notebook: Boise State winning streak reaches 21 | BuckeyeXtra

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Kellen Moore threw two touchdown passes and caught another on a trick play, helping No.2 Boise State beat Louisiana Tech 49-20 last night for its 21st consecutive victory.
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“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

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Oct 27, 2010
 
That Boise State game could have been a lot closer if LT had been able to capitalize on field position. This is why BSU will never get to a NC without a lot of other teams losing. Their conference schedule is against teams that big programs schedule as cupcakes for their OOC schedule.
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Oct 27, 2010
 
OSU is afraid to schedule Boise. The Big Ten Conference is a joke! I'm sure that Boise would do very well in the one dimensional Big Ten. Wisky is the best team, and everyone knows what they are going to do on almost every play.
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Oct 27, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
OSU is afraid to schedule Boise. The Big Ten Conference is a joke! I'm sure that Boise would do very well in the one dimensional Big Ten. Wisky is the best team, and everyone knows what they are going to do on almost every play.
It was enough to beat ASU wasn't it?

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Oct 28, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
OSU is afraid to schedule Boise. The Big Ten Conference is a joke! I'm sure that Boise would do very well in the one dimensional Big Ten. Wisky is the best team, and everyone knows what they are going to do on almost every play.
Boise State wouldn't last in the Big Ten or SEC. They don't face a defense the entire year. The only decent teams they faced were Oregon State (Pac Ten lacks defense) and VT (James Madison...do I need to say more?). If they had to face the OSU defense, Wisky defense, Iowa defense, even the Illinois defense, 40 points wouldn't be happening. And the BSU defense isn't good enough to shut people down on a consistent basis to keep the score close enough. Letting Louisiana Tech score 20 points and have plenty of other opportunities to score more wouldn't cut it in the Big Ten. If LT had a decent team, they would have gone score for score with BSU. But when BSU plays high school teams for 90% of their season, it's easy to keep winning and come into a bowl game fresh without many injuries. I would love to see them have to play physical for a few weeks straight, and not have a cakewalk all the way through. Truth is, BSU is afraid to join a real conference because they know what would happen.
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Oct 28, 2010
 
ASU will finish close to last in the PAC. ASU got homered at Wisky but still should have won. UNLV also had Wisky on the ropes.

The SEC Champion should play in the National Championship game. Please spare us from a Big Ten representative.

Boise State has a true QB that can strike at any time. OSU has a tight end playing QB that needs to run the ball to come from behind.

Boise teams never give up, unlike OSU teams that give up when the going gets tough. Oklahoma was a great example of the fight and determination of Boise - out manned at almost every position Boise would not roll over.

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Oct 28, 2010
 
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ASU will finish close to last in the PAC. ASU got homered at Wisky but still should have won. UNLV also had Wisky on the ropes.
The SEC Champion should play in the National Championship game. Please spare us from a Big Ten representative.
Boise State has a true QB that can strike at any time. OSU has a tight end playing QB that needs to run the ball to come from behind.
Boise teams never give up, unlike OSU teams that give up when the going gets tough. Oklahoma was a great example of the fight and determination of Boise - out manned at almost every position Boise would not roll over.
So what exactly does a Boise State team from 3 years ago have to do with this team? As I said before, when a team gets no tough competition throughout the entire year and only has to prepare for their bowl game it gives them a distinct advantage no matter who the opponent is. The SEC champion will play in the NC if Auburn goes undefeated. But to say they are that good is a joke as Auburn almost lost to Kentucky, SC almost lost to Kentucky, and Alabama lost to SC. There is no dominant team in college football right now. You better hope Boise State doesn't play Auburn or Alabama or Oregon or MSU. They will get exposed.
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Oct 28, 2010
 
My point is that Boise is a better team than 3 years ago.

OSU is the best it has ever been. I am an OSU fan, and would not like to see them play an SEC team. I felt bad that we get beat up physically by USC and the SEC. We are 0-3 against South Carolina, a second tier team.

Boise might get beat by one of those teams, it would be a close game. MSU is not very good, an average Iowa team will beat them this week.

It is nice to see a very small budget team compete with the power houses of college football. I also like the fact that they do not make excuses for losing because they are a cold weather team or are the away team in bowl games etc. etc.

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Oct 29, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
My point is that Boise is a better team than 3 years ago.
OSU is the best it has ever been. I am an OSU fan, and would not like to see them play an SEC team. I felt bad that we get beat up physically by USC and the SEC. We are 0-3 against South Carolina, a second tier team.
Boise might get beat by one of those teams, it would be a close game. MSU is not very good, an average Iowa team will beat them this week.
It is nice to see a very small budget team compete with the power houses of college football. I also like the fact that they do not make excuses for losing because they are a cold weather team or are the away team in bowl games etc. etc.
Look, I think it's great that a small school is able to win like BSU has. But to say they can compete with power houses is a joke. The only power house they have played was Oklahoma and again, they had an entire season to prepare while Oklahoma was going through a conference schedule 10 times as hard as that of BSU. Other than that, BSU hasn't played any power house teams. Maybe this year will be the year. But hopefully the BCS voters realize that putting them in a BCS bowl with TCU is doing everyone an injustice. Maybe if they play Oregon or Auburn and get burned, it will stop with the non-AQ complaints about not getting into a NC. They beat Oregon last year, but it was at the beginning of the season and Oregon got better as the season went on. If BSU was to win the game against one of those schools this year, well then they will have a claim that they can hang with the powers of college football. And if they were smart, they would start talking to the BCS conferences and see if anyone would let them join so they don't have to worry about getting shut out. They would only have to worry about winning. I still say they can't hang in a BCS conference. Not saying they wouldn't do well, but they wouldn't have all the undefeated seasons.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
FLABUCK wrote:
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So what exactly does a Boise State team from 3 years ago have to do with this team? As I said before, when a team gets no tough competition throughout the entire year and only has to prepare for their bowl game it gives them a distinct advantage no matter who the opponent is. The SEC champion will play in the NC if Auburn goes undefeated. But to say they are that good is a joke as Auburn almost lost to Kentucky, SC almost lost to Kentucky, and Alabama lost to SC. There is no dominant team in college football right now. You better hope Boise State doesn't play Auburn or Alabama or Oregon or MSU. They will get exposed.
But you consistently cite history to support your arguments.

The fact of the matter is that Boise State has proven that it is an elite program. They have faced teams from so-called power conference and emerged victorious. Not just in early season games, but in BCS competition as well.

Yes, they are in a weak conference but Boise State recruits great players and they are well-coached. Boise would do well in one of the big conferences. They'd challenge for conference titles in the Big 10 and even the vaunted SEC.

Teams don't want to play Boise State because they're afraid to get embrassed. Boise also wants to negotiate deals to get big schools to come to Boise which a lot of programs balk at.

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But you consistently cite history to support your arguments.
The fact of the matter is that Boise State has proven that it is an elite program. They have faced teams from so-called power conference and emerged victorious. Not just in early season games, but in BCS competition as well.
Yes, they are in a weak conference but Boise State recruits great players and they are well-coached. Boise would do well in one of the big conferences. They'd challenge for conference titles in the Big 10 and even the vaunted SEC.
Teams don't want to play Boise State because they're afraid to get embrassed. Boise also wants to negotiate deals to get big schools to come to Boise which a lot of programs balk at.
Like I said, I think BSU would do well in the Pac Ten, Big Ten, Big 12, or SEC. I just know that racking up undefeated seasons wouldn't be happening. They have played maybe one or two good teams per year, and the rest of the year they spend their time practicing for another shot at a good team. I think they could hang and challenge for a conference championship in a BCS conference, but it wouldn't be a guaranteed championship and undefeated season like they have done in recent history...meaning they wouldn't be constantly the undefeated team on the outside looking in at the NCG.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
Playing good teams all season is an advantage. As a coach, I like playing good teams because it made us better and prepared us for the big games. MAC teams compete very well with the Big Ten. Boise would have an easier season if they played in the Big Ten, Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, Penn State. Illinois starts every season with their annual beat down with Missouri. Wisky, sparty, Iowa and Michigan are not that good.

Consider the fact that Ohio State was arguably the easiest team on the schedule for LSU and Florida. The Big Ten Conference is a liability because of it's lack of good teams. Almost every coach that has coached the Buckeyes has been great.I would be able to be successful knowing that I had 9 wins before the season started.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
ASU will finish close to last in the PAC. ASU got homered at Wisky but still should have won. UNLV also had Wisky on the ropes.
The SEC Champion should play in the National Championship game. Please spare us from a Big Ten representative.
Boise State has a true QB that can strike at any time. OSU has a tight end playing QB that needs to run the ball to come from behind.
Boise teams never give up, unlike OSU teams that give up when the going gets tough. Oklahoma was a great example of the fight and determination of Boise - out manned at almost every position Boise would not roll over.
I don't remember OSU rolling over against Oregon in the Rose Bowl last year. The Ducks took the lead late in the third quarter in that game.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
Playing good teams all season is an advantage. As a coach, I like playing good teams because it made us better and prepared us for the big games. MAC teams compete very well with the Big Ten. Boise would have an easier season if they played in the Big Ten, Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, Penn State. Illinois starts every season with their annual beat down with Missouri. Wisky, sparty, Iowa and Michigan are not that good.
Consider the fact that Ohio State was arguably the easiest team on the schedule for LSU and Florida. The Big Ten Conference is a liability because of it's lack of good teams. Almost every coach that has coached the Buckeyes has been great.I would be able to be successful knowing that I had 9 wins before the season started.
I don't doubt Boisie is a good team. But it won't be fair to the rest of the country if they play TCU or Utah for the championship. Look at the last 3 weeks of no.1 going down. All were against conference top 15 oppenents on the road. Those guys don't endure that competion during their conference schedule. We seen a subpar performance by Boisie against La Tech. I don't hold that against them. It is tough to play at a high level week in and week out. Thats exactly my point. If they played like that on the road against South Carolina, Wisconsin or Missouri they get their AZZ spanked....End of story.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
OHwest wrote:
My point is that Boise is a better team than 3 years ago.
OSU is the best it has ever been. I am an OSU fan, and would not like to see them play an SEC team. I felt bad that we get beat up physically by USC and the SEC. We are 0-3 against South Carolina, a second tier team.
Boise might get beat by one of those teams, it would be a close game. MSU is not very good, an average Iowa team will beat them this week.
It is nice to see a very small budget team compete with the power houses of college football. I also like the fact that they do not make excuses for losing because they are a cold weather team or are the away team in bowl games etc. etc.
I agree with most of the points you've made in this thread except one.This OSU team isn't even close to the best they've ever been.I've lived in Columbus for 24 years and the best OSU teams I've ever seen were Cooper's 95 and 98 teams.Eddie George running the ball and Orlando Pace pancaking defensive ends.Tressel has have several teams that are better then the current team.Last years team was significantly better then this years.The Wisconsin loss wouldn't have happened with the now departed secondary from last year.The Bucks will probably lose to Iowa also........only hope for OSU is if they get healthy again before going to Iowa City.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
Bozo State is a joke. Period. Nothing else really needs to be said!

In watching this game and listening to the announcers cooing about Bozo and how great they are, I almost threw up in my mouth a little. Louisiana Tech is a conference game for them; much like the majority of their conference games. Louisiana Tech is ALSO a team that SEC teams like AUBURN regularly schedule as a patsy warm up game.

Anyone that thinks Bozo State deserves a shot at the title shouldn't even be watching college football. How laughable...

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Oct 29, 2010
 
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<quoted text> I don't doubt Boisie is a good team. But it won't be fair to the rest of the country if they play TCU or Utah for the championship. Look at the last 3 weeks of no.1 going down. All were against conference top 15 oppenents on the road. Those guys don't endure that competion during their conference schedule. We seen a subpar performance by Boisie against La Tech. I don't hold that against them. It is tough to play at a high level week in and week out. Thats exactly my point. If they played like that on the road against South Carolina, Wisconsin or Missouri they get their **** spanked....End of story.
Thank you. I keep telling him that Boise State is a good team, but the 21 straight wins wouldn't be happening if they played in a real conference. If they gave the teams you mentioned the chances that La Tech had there would be no question that they would have lost. Even on the pathetic excuse for home field advantage that is the smurf turf. First thing that would have to happen if they joined a real conference is that they would need to rip up that crap and put a normal field down. These guys play football for 15+ years of their life on green grass and when they step onto a blue field it puts them at a complete disadvantage because the ball comes off the field completely different.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
Boise's athletic director went public after last season because of these arguments. The fact is that OSU is afraid to schedule them. OSU was called out by USC, nobody in Ohio wanted to play them. Two years ago USC put such a physical beating on OSU that the game was over by half time. However, USC could not over power PAC teams the same way. OSU could not wait to get to the conference schedule. I don't understand how a whole conference of teams like Purdue are a challenge. Boise beat the same Oregon team that OSU struggled with, not so sure that Pryor would get away with some of the poor throws that he made in that game again. Boise also beat a healthy Oregon State team this year. The Orlando Pace and Eddie George teams struggled against average Michigan teams. The major problems for OSU is the lack of a good throwing QB.
Bobby Hoying was probably the best ever OSU QB. I think the lesson that OSU could learn from Boise is to recruit a QB that can throw the ball. Over the years it is hard to be a Buckeye fan, when the main strategy is to punt the ball and hope that the other team fumbles. Please don't tell the coaching staff that they can punt on third down. The winner of the SEC championship game should go to the NCG, based on their complete dominance in recent years. Let's give Boise a shot, they have a ten year history of being in every game, they don't quit and they are very innovative.

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OHwest wrote:
Boise's athletic director went public after last season because of these arguments. The fact is that OSU is afraid to schedule them. OSU was called out by USC, nobody in Ohio wanted to play them. Two years ago USC put such a physical beating on OSU that the game was over by half time. However, USC could not over power PAC teams the same way. OSU could not wait to get to the conference schedule. I don't understand how a whole conference of teams like Purdue are a challenge. Boise beat the same Oregon team that OSU struggled with, not so sure that Pryor would get away with some of the poor throws that he made in that game again. Boise also beat a healthy Oregon State team this year. The Orlando Pace and Eddie George teams struggled against average Michigan teams. The major problems for OSU is the lack of a good throwing QB.
Bobby Hoying was probably the best ever OSU QB. I think the lesson that OSU could learn from Boise is to recruit a QB that can throw the ball. Over the years it is hard to be a Buckeye fan, when the main strategy is to punt the ball and hope that the other team fumbles. Please don't tell the coaching staff that they can punt on third down. The winner of the SEC championship game should go to the NCG, based on their complete dominance in recent years. Let's give Boise a shot, they have a ten year history of being in every game, they don't quit and they are very innovative.
Look, save your breath as I am sure this conversation is going on in every college football blog across the US. Nobody respects Boise State because of them only playing maybe one or two games per year against decent teams and the rest is a cakewalk practice session where they can keep their players healthy before their bowl game. They play nobody with a defense (which makes Kellen Moore look like an animal every game...my grandma could put up decent stats against teams he faces). Now they are moving to a conference (MWC) that BYU and Utah are leaving, which basically brings the level of competition to what they currently face. Until college football moves to a 4 power conference system, and Boise State puts its name in the hat, they won't get respect. Take any team in the country and have them play a bunch of high school teams as a warm up, and put them up against a team that has had to play a lot of physical tough games, and they are going to hang with them. It's called injuries and being worn out. Football is a physical game, and by the end of a season teams are dealing with injuries from playing tough teams. Boise State has the advantage of not having that problem as they play a bunch of patsies especially towards the end of the year, and the QB and WR positions are just a showcase of how good a team can look against kids that can't play anywhere else. I have said it before over and over...BSU would do alright in a major conference, but not win out over and over like they have in the WAC.
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Oct 29, 2010
 
Wow - let OSU schedule nothing but high school level teams for 98% of their games for the next 5 years and see how much of a winning streak they go on.

Spudly state is a joke. The schedule 1 good and maybe 1 mediocre team at the very beginning of the season. Then for the rest of the year, play nothing but high school teams. They rarely get injured and/or dinged up and they never have to ever game plan for an opponent. So how do they spend their time? Game planning for their potential bowl game opponent all year long.

Even the worst teams in the big boy conferences bring faster, larger, harder hitting players to the field and regardless of the score, the wear and tear of the game is felt. Every single week each of these games add to the accumulation of abuse on the body. Spuds avoid that throughout the entire season - hell, they rarely break into a sweat during their entire season.

Sorry, until they play in a big boy conference and until they get rid of that Buddy's Carpet Barn blue carpet clearance sale turf - they will continue to get and deserve no respect from the powers to be in college football
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Are you kidding? Wisky is the Big Ten power? OSU could not stop them running between the tackles on almost every play? Three years ago when Boise had a much smaller, less talented team they played and beat an Oklahoma running attack with Adrian Peterson. The PAC 10 is the only conference that has a good record against the SEC. Ohio State has not beat USC since the 1970's. Even Woody and Bo had a hard time winning outside the Big Ten. Woody was no match for the Bear losing 35-0. I think that OSU laid down against Wisky because they feared a collision course and a huge match up problem with Boise.
OSU knew that Wisky was going to run the ball on almost every play and still couldn't stop them. UNLV stuffed Wisky most of the time.

The Big MAC is a pathetic conference. What if OSU had to play USC every year? If they can't stop a one dimensional team like Wisky, how would they compete against Nevada, a team that can also throw the ball.

The easiest team on Florida and LSU's schedule was OSU. Thank God OSU doesn't play in the SEC, that would suck having to beat South Carolina (we are 0-3) for 6th place in the conference.

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