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There are 54 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Dec 7, 2010, titled Heisman Trophy: Newton tops finalist list | BuckeyeXtra. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Auburn quarterback Cam Newton and Oregon running back LaMichael James will meet up in New York before heading to Arizona for next month's national championship game.

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Since: Oct 09

United States

#1 Dec 7, 2010
JMO, but I don't believe for one minute Cam knew nothing about this. It appears the NCAA committee will only see what they want to see. But this is a good example of, three can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#2 Dec 7, 2010
In related news, Cecil Newton has contacted the Heisman voters and told them that for his son to receive the trophy and take on such a big role, he is requiring they pay off his house. For the record, Cam knows nothing about it but will hand the check over to his dad as it will be taped to the back of the trophy.
Ghost Hunter

Tucker, GA

#3 Dec 7, 2010
If we go solely on playing ability, Cam Newton should win the Heisman Trophy. If we look at everything that he and his father have done, which has been documented, not only by the Police, but the NCAA, he should not even be on the list to be considered for the award. Some how, we have lost our way on how to pick heros................

Since: Dec 09

Austin, TX

#4 Dec 7, 2010
Ghost Hunter wrote:
If we go solely on playing ability, Cam Newton should win the Heisman Trophy. If we look at everything that he and his father have done, which has been documented, not only by the Police, but the NCAA, he should not even be on the list to be considered for the award. Some how, we have lost our way on how to pick heros..........
We haven't lost our way on how to pick heroes, there just aren't enough people worthy of being called heroes. People believe what they want, and the SEC doesn't want the same thing that happened to USC to happen to Auburn. I agree with the first poster on this thread...I think it is very improbably that Cam Newton didn't know anything about what his father did - either before OR after...and if it was after, he should've been the first person to report it so his career didn't get tarnished (too late now). But, people still love Michael Vick after he abused animals, so I expect Cam Newton will be loved by fans as long as he can play football.

Since: Dec 09

Austin, TX

#5 Dec 7, 2010
Ghost Hunter wrote:
If we go solely on playing ability, Cam Newton should win the Heisman Trophy. If we look at everything that he and his father have done, which has been documented, not only by the Police, but the NCAA, he should not even be on the list to be considered for the award. Some how, we have lost our way on how to pick heros..........
Just re-read your post and realize now that you agree with my line of thinking. sorry!
Sherry

Lanham, MD

#6 Dec 7, 2010
WOW no petty ignorant Cam comments? This is shocking. Sad like Reggie Bush, his father didn't trust in his FUTURE talents/prospects. Instant gratification ruins so many ppl. Good Luck Cam! Can you PLZ show that darn Duck how to do a proper push-up when you beat down Oregon and show Osu win in big game wasn't a fluck! hahahaha

Boy I would luv to see the #2s (Newton and Pryor) go at it.....Chris Breezy (TP's twin) can do the halftime entertainment hahaha
Sherry

Lanham, MD

#7 Dec 7, 2010
oops I didn't see other posts before I posted hahahaha
Sherry

Lanham, MD

#8 Dec 7, 2010
Let me tell you why I believe it's "possible" Cam knew nothing until LATER but I don't expect him to sell his father down the drain in the media!!!! I know an athlete who's mother is kept in the dark about a lot of stuff because daddy thinks he knows what's best for his athletic children. Yes he was a hs star who failed so he's living dreams through his kids LIKE MOST HAS BEEN PARENTS!!!!

My athlete daughter has said to me on many occasions "Mom I'm gorwn you can't make decisions like that without my permission anymore but thanks for lookin out!" I bought her a car and I remember how paranoid she was the NCAA would wonder how I could afford it. I ensured her the IRS and bank knows exactly where my money came from...HOLLA!

The Newton family escaped a HUGE mess because in my opinion until bank recs prove money exchanged hands case is CLOSED with Auburn and Cam!!!!
Marty Miami

Hollywood, FL

#9 Dec 7, 2010
How can Cam Newton not get the nod. My father stopped being responsible for me (legally) when I turned 18. How can anyone hold this kid responsible for his fathers alleged actions?
DennyCrane

Columbus, OH

#10 Dec 7, 2010
I long for the good old days when real amateurs competed in the olympics not the pros,when college athletes lived in the dorms and struggled to scrape together enough money for a date on sat nite like the rest of us, and when awards were given to best athlete not some over hyped media darling.Oh well with all of the technology today and the way things are going there is soon going to be a signing ceremony for parents choosing their kids preschool.

“America is getting FAT”

Since: Oct 08

Herndon, Va.

#11 Dec 7, 2010
College sports are crooked. Cam got caught and the old man is taking the heat.

Millions of future dollars are at stake! After all....money is all that matters to these people!

Don't mind that his character sucks. He stole some guy's term paper and put his name on it! What a jerk!

DEFEND THAT YOU STUPID MORONS!!!!
Chuck Hays

Clifton Hill, MO

#12 Dec 7, 2010
DennyCrane wrote:
I long for the good old days when real amateurs competed in the olympics not the pros,when college athletes lived in the dorms and struggled to scrape together enough money for a date on sat nite like the rest of us, and when awards were given to best athlete not some over hyped media darling.Oh well with all of the technology today and the way things are going there is soon going to be a signing ceremony for parents choosing their kids preschool.
Surely you are not calling Cam Newton an "over hyped media darling". I'm not an Auburn fan, but I have seen enough of Cam Newton to recognize that he is the best athlete in college football today: a one man juggernaut, absolutely unstoppable. He is bigger, stronger, and faster than any other skill position player in the country, which is exactly how one determines who is the "best athlete".

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#13 Dec 7, 2010
Sherry wrote:
Let me tell you why I believe it's "possible" Cam knew nothing until LATER but I don't expect him to sell his father down the drain in the media!!!! I know an athlete who's mother is kept in the dark about a lot of stuff because daddy thinks he knows what's best for his athletic children. Yes he was a hs star who failed so he's living dreams through his kids LIKE MOST HAS BEEN PARENTS!!!!
My athlete daughter has said to me on many occasions "Mom I'm gorwn you can't make decisions like that without my permission anymore but thanks for lookin out!" I bought her a car and I remember how paranoid she was the NCAA would wonder how I could afford it. I ensured her the IRS and bank knows exactly where my money came from...HOLLA!
The Newton family escaped a HUGE mess because in my opinion until bank recs prove money exchanged hands case is CLOSED with Auburn and Cam!!!!
So just because you know of a mom who was kept in the dark doesn't mean that Newton didn't know what his dad was doing. There is no way that Cam didn't have any idea of his dads dealings, as the kids have as much contact with these third parties as the parents do. The dad is just jumping in front of the gun to save his son from losing a Heisman Trophy. And no bank records have to show anything. First of all, it wasn't necessarily Auburn who was in the money talks. Auburn is in a whole other mess with its gambling boosters that are having to cut ties with the school. All that has to happen is that it's proven via phone records, anything in writing, or straight admission of guilt that requires the NCAA to punish Newton. The admission of guilt has been provided, yet the NCAA swept it under the rug by some loophole they created to save the SEC and keep them playing for a NC and keep their Heisman front runner in the game. Lastly, you just said HOLLA! If you are old enough to have a daughter that can drive and are saying HOLLA, you are the parent living vicariously through your child. I would be embarrassed to use that phrase as it is, let alone being a middle aged parent.

Since: Oct 09

United States

#14 Dec 7, 2010
Sherry wrote:
Let me tell you why I believe it's "possible" Cam knew nothing until LATER but I don't expect him to sell his father down the drain in the media!!!! I know an athlete who's mother is kept in the dark about a lot of stuff because daddy thinks he knows what's best for his athletic children. Yes he was a hs star who failed so he's living dreams through his kids LIKE MOST HAS BEEN PARENTS!!!!
My athlete daughter has said to me on many occasions "Mom I'm gorwn you can't make decisions like that without my permission anymore but thanks for lookin out!" I bought her a car and I remember how paranoid she was the NCAA would wonder how I could afford it. I ensured her the IRS and bank knows exactly where my money came from...HOLLA!
The Newton family escaped a HUGE mess because in my opinion until bank recs prove money exchanged hands case is CLOSED with Auburn and Cam!!!!
You might want to read the SEC rules on this type of thing. Money doesn't have to change hands. The mere shopping around and asking for money is a violation.
Chuck Hays

Clifton Hill, MO

#15 Dec 7, 2010
FLABUCK wrote:
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So just because you know of a mom who was kept in the dark doesn't mean that Newton didn't know what his dad was doing. There is no way that Cam didn't have any idea of his dads dealings, as the kids have as much contact with these third parties as the parents do. The dad is just jumping in front of the gun to save his son from losing a Heisman Trophy. And no bank records have to show anything. First of all, it wasn't necessarily Auburn who was in the money talks. Auburn is in a whole other mess with its gambling boosters that are having to cut ties with the school. All that has to happen is that it's proven via phone records, anything in writing, or straight admission of guilt that requires the NCAA to punish Newton. The admission of guilt has been provided, yet the NCAA swept it under the rug by some loophole they created to save the SEC and keep them playing for a NC and keep their Heisman front runner in the game. Lastly, you just said HOLLA! If you are old enough to have a daughter that can drive and are saying HOLLA, you are the parent living vicariously through your child. I would be embarrassed to use that phrase as it is, let alone being a middle aged parent.
The NCAA has ruled that Cam Newton didn't know what his father did. Case closed. Time to move on.
Ghost Hunter

Tucker, GA

#16 Dec 7, 2010
Marty Miami wrote:
How can Cam Newton not get the nod. My father stopped being responsible for me (legally) when I turned 18. How can anyone hold this kid responsible for his fathers alleged actions?
Well, he is a cheat and a thief (don't forget about the college papers and the computer he stole). Let's reward him for that too. Give the Heisman to someone that's not only a great football player, but a good person also.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#17 Dec 7, 2010
Chuck Hays wrote:
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The NCAA has ruled that Cam Newton didn't know what his father did. Case closed. Time to move on.
That's like walking up to a murder scene and seeing a guy standing over a body with gashes all over it and he is covered in blood and holding the knife in his hand, yet he says "I just got here and pulled the knife out to try to save him". Then he is tried in front of a jury made up of his family and friends. If you believe it, you are a moron. The case may be closed as far as Cam Newton is concerned, but it opened up a loophole that will be far too big to close. Now parents can market their high school kids or JUCO kids for money and as long as the kid "doesn't know about it" they can't get in trouble. Then it carries over to the schools. As long as they cover their tracks and there is no way to trace the money back to them, the school gets off as well. All of a sudden scholarships turn into $1,000,000 and parents are driving to the games in their new Benz. Now I know that seems a little extreme, but with the NCAA not taking this seriously, they are opening the door to that future.

Since: Oct 09

United States

#18 Dec 7, 2010
Chuck Hays wrote:
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Surely you are not calling Cam Newton an "over hyped media darling". I'm not an Auburn fan, but I have seen enough of Cam Newton to recognize that he is the best athlete in college football today: a one man juggernaut, absolutely unstoppable. He is bigger, stronger, and faster than any other skill position player in the country, which is exactly how one determines who is the "best athlete".
The trophy is not for just what an athlete does on the field. Maybe you need to recognize that. And btw according to the rules Cam didn't have to know his dad was shopping him around for it to be a violation. The NCAA let this one go, and just as much said so by their lame attempt to answer the way they did.
DennyCrane

Columbus, OH

#19 Dec 7, 2010
Chuck Hays wrote:
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The NCAA has ruled that Cam Newton didn't know what his father did. Case closed. Time to move on.
Cam and his daddy have done things that would make Maurice Clarrett blush. What a piece of garbage,his winning this Heisman tarnishes the award for ever. I bet Kirk washes his hands 10 times after touching this criminal.
BDD

United States

#20 Dec 7, 2010
At least now we know what the new lowered standards are for certain players. Your parents can break any rule and take any amount of bribe money, and all is well.

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