Boise State gains ground in AP Top 25

More AP Top 25 voters are buying into Boise State as the No. 1 team in the country. Read more
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“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#1 Sep 8, 2010
NO!! Boise State does not, nor will they ever deserve a BCS Championship. They dont even deserve a BCS Bowl. They play in a very weak conference. While they are playing small schools like NM State and other wanna be programs. The Big Ten teams are beating up on each other every week. The compititon is much stronger and much more physical. So until Boise State goes to a BCS Conference they do NOT deserve any respect. Sure they beat VT. Now they go on a play a weak scedule. While VT plays in a tough ACC. OF couse Boise State runs the table, but they were playing powder puff compitition!
airtime

La Luz, NM

#2 Sep 8, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
NO!! Boise State does not, nor will they ever deserve a BCS Championship. They dont even deserve a BCS Bowl. They play in a very weak conference. While they are playing small schools like NM State and other wanna be programs. The Big Ten teams are beating up on each other every week. The compititon is much stronger and much more physical. So until Boise State goes to a BCS Conference they do NOT deserve any respect. Sure they beat VT. Now they go on a play a weak scedule. While VT plays in a tough ACC. OF couse Boise State runs the table, but they were playing powder puff compitition!
Put Boise against anybody and I bet it will be much closer than what you think.

Oh yea, who did teams like Oklahoma and Ohio just play talk about powder puff.
Jim Zickefoose

Colcord, OK

#3 Sep 8, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
NO!! Boise State does not, nor will they ever deserve a BCS Championship. They dont even deserve a BCS Bowl. They play in a very weak conference. While they are playing small schools like NM State and other wanna be programs. The Big Ten teams are beating up on each other every week. The compititon is much stronger and much more physical. So until Boise State goes to a BCS Conference they do NOT deserve any respect. Sure they beat VT. Now they go on a play a weak scedule. While VT plays in a tough ACC. OF couse Boise State runs the table, but they were playing powder puff compitition!
If they are undefeated, put them in the championship game. If you are right, and they don't deserve to be there, they'll lose and we won't ever have to have this debate again.

But, if they win, then we'll know they deserved to be there.

“I got it back!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!”

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#4 Sep 8, 2010
Can't hate on Boise State..
They play thier conference... JUST like every other team does
They play a few non-conf. teams.. And BEAT them

DOn't HATE Boise State for playing by the rules and doing everything they need to
HATE the system that allows a team as weak Boise State to even be in the conversation...

As for who THEY play...

Wyoming

Oregon State

New Mexico State

Toledo

San Jose State

Louisiana Tech

Hawaii

Idaho

Fresno State

Nevada

Utah State

Find me ONE ranked team please???

How about Ohio State?


#12 Miami (FL)

Ohio

Eastern Michigan

Illinois

Indiana

#11 Wisconsin

Purdue

Minnesota


#18 Penn State

#9 Iowa

Michigan

I see 4 NATIONALLY ranked teams that they will face..

I'd say that was a HUGE difference?
Rat Killa

Lawrence, MA

#5 Sep 8, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
NO!! Boise State does not, nor will they ever deserve a BCS Championship. They dont even deserve a BCS Bowl. They play in a very weak conference. While they are playing small schools like NM State and other wanna be programs. The Big Ten teams are beating up on each other every week. The compititon is much stronger and much more physical. So until Boise State goes to a BCS Conference they do NOT deserve any respect. Sure they beat VT. Now they go on a play a weak scedule. While VT plays in a tough ACC. OF couse Boise State runs the table, but they were playing powder puff compitition!
Weak Conference. I guess you didn't watch or see the results of the Utah State Kansas game. Boise State can play with the big schools. You obviously have no clue? Look at who many of the so called big schools played this past weekend and how they abused thier opponents. Example Oregon 72, UNM 0. Many of these so called power houses played very week teams and continue to do so in pre-conference games. Yet they get the BCS attention. You say Boise State has a week defense and couldn't stop an Oklahoma or Florida. You obviously didn't watch when these teams match up and there is no defense at all. Learn some football before making asinine comments.

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#6 Sep 8, 2010
airtime wrote:
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Put Boise against anybody and I bet it will be much closer than what you think.
Oh yea, who did teams like Oklahoma and Ohio just play talk about powder puff.
They may just beat them all. But there is a big difference in playing power houses week in and week out than playing NM State and Nevada wek in and week out.
Oklahoma and Ohio State play top teams every year. Boise State play maybe one a year. Now if Biose State went to the PAC 10 and ran the table thats something to talk about. But playing only ONE ranked team a year and then going on to NM State and the like make for a very poor strength of scedule. Put Ohio State or OU in the same conference as Boise State and they would run the table every year too. My point being until Boise State plays a stronger scedule they shouldnt be ranked and shouldnt go to BCS Bowls. Same way with TCU and Utah!

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#7 Sep 8, 2010
Rat Killa wrote:
<quoted text>Weak Conference. I guess you didn't watch or see the results of the Utah State Kansas game. Boise State can play with the big schools. You obviously have no clue? Look at who many of the so called big schools played this past weekend and how they abused thier opponents. Example Oregon 72, UNM 0. Many of these so called power houses played very week teams and continue to do so in pre-conference games. Yet they get the BCS attention. You say Boise State has a week defense and couldn't stop an Oklahoma or Florida. You obviously didn't watch when these teams match up and there is no defense at all. Learn some football before making asinine comments.
Where did I say they had a weak defense? WHat I am saying is when you play weak teams you dont deseve a BCS Bowl. Let Boise State play in the PAC Ten or Big 12 see how they handle a tough team every week. Can they go to USC and win then play Oregon at home then to Stanford or Oregon State? When you play NM State, then go to Nevada, then some other week opponent its not fair that they get a BCS Bowl when a PAC 10 team with one or 2 losses does not when they obviously played a much tougher scedule than Boise State does.

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#8 Sep 8, 2010
Perfection wrote:
Can't hate on Boise State..
They play thier conference... JUST like every other team does
They play a few non-conf. teams.. And BEAT them
DOn't HATE Boise State for playing by the rules and doing everything they need to
HATE the system that allows a team as weak Boise State to even be in the conversation...
As for who THEY play...
Wyoming
Oregon State
New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawaii
Idaho
Fresno State
Nevada
Utah State
Find me ONE ranked team please???
How about Ohio State?
#12 Miami (FL)
Ohio
Eastern Michigan
Illinois
Indiana
#11 Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
#18 Penn State
#9 Iowa
Michigan
I see 4 NATIONALLY ranked teams that they will face..
I'd say that was a HUGE difference?
Very well said. This is what I have been trying to say. I am not hating on Boise State as some may think. I am merely pointing out the "strentgh of scedule" as you are. How may more schools would run the table in Boise States conference? I am sure many of the bottom end PAC 10 or Big 10 teams would.
Anonymous

Rio Rancho, NM

#9 Sep 8, 2010
Perfection wrote:
Can't hate on Boise State..
They play thier conference... JUST like every other team does
They play a few non-conf. teams.. And BEAT them
DOn't HATE Boise State for playing by the rules and doing everything they need to
HATE the system that allows a team as weak Boise State to even be in the conversation...
As for who THEY play...
Wyoming
Oregon State
New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawaii
Idaho
Fresno State
Nevada
Utah State
Find me ONE ranked team please???
How about Ohio State?
#12 Miami (FL)
Ohio
Eastern Michigan
Illinois
Indiana
#11 Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
#18 Penn State
#9 Iowa
Michigan
I see 4 NATIONALLY ranked teams that they will face..
I'd say that was a HUGE difference?
True the conference is weak, but how did Boise State do against big-time ranked teams in bowl games? Ummm. They won. Maybe the reason Ohio State and Wisconsin, et. al. dont schedule them is that they are afraid to lose--have too much to lose losing to a WAC team (soon to be MWC team). BSU beat Oklahoma in a bowl situation a few years back in 2006 to finish 13-0, and many thought they should have been final ranked #1. 2009 they beat national champ contender TCU to finish 14-0, and many thought they should have won the mythical national championship, They are for real.

“I got it back!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!”

Since: May 09

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#10 Sep 8, 2010
wellduh2010 wrote:
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True the conference is weak, but how did Boise State do against big-time ranked teams in bowl games? Ummm. They won. Maybe the reason Ohio State and Wisconsin, et. al. dont schedule them is that they are afraid to lose--have too much to lose losing to a WAC team (soon to be MWC team). BSU beat Oklahoma in a bowl situation a few years back in 2006 to finish 13-0, and many thought they should have been final ranked #1. 2009 they beat national champ contender TCU to finish 14-0, and many thought they should have won the mythical national championship, They are for real.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh

Love your argument... Ohio State or Wisconsin MUST be afraid to play Boise State???

And you are on the Scheduling committee??? You have insight??? Grow up a little please and present a viable argument, not some school-yard posturing...

I presented BOTH schedules and offered a valid reason as to which is not a cake-walk schedule YEAR IN and OUT as opposed to 1 hard game a year and declaring yourself a powerhouse worthy of a BCS bid.. If ALL I played each year was 1 tough game, then I SHOULD be well rested and practiced for the 1 tough BOWL games against a ANYONE..
Play a WHOLE year against 4-6 NATIONALLY ranked teams, and then come back and spout your hearsay...
How about the ENTIRE conference that Boise State belongs to offers NOTHING of value to the Big Ten or SEC? 1 ranked team on Boise State's schedule... ONE!!!!!!!!

OSU has 4... 3 in the TOP 15 in the country!
Alabama has 6 RANKED teams
Wisconsin has 2 in the TOP 10 opponents

But you go on believing that these schools are SCARED to play Boise State... What a pathetic argument..... They played a #10 Team. It was a GREAT game to watch.. But they have no other opponents, so they basically have 9 SCRIMMAGE games to get ready for some bowl opponent... They are sure to be well rested, free of injury, and well practiced... No wonder they win thier ONE big game of the year..?

“I got it back!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!”

Since: May 09

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#11 Sep 8, 2010
wellduh2010 wrote:
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True the conference is weak, but how did Boise State do against big-time ranked teams in bowl games? Ummm. They won. Maybe the reason Ohio State and Wisconsin, et. al. dont schedule them is that they are afraid to lose--have too much to lose losing to a WAC team (soon to be MWC team). BSU beat Oklahoma in a bowl situation a few years back in 2006 to finish 13-0, and many thought they should have been final ranked #1. 2009 they beat national champ contender TCU to finish 14-0, and many thought they should have won the mythical national championship, They are for real.
And you OBVIOUSLY couldn't have watched the TCU - BSU bowl game last year..

One of the MOST pathetic BCS Bowl games I have EVER witnessed... AND one of the lowest in T.V. Rankings...
Anonymous

Rio Rancho, NM

#12 Sep 8, 2010
Perfection wrote:
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And you OBVIOUSLY couldn't have watched the TCU - BSU bowl game last year..
One of the MOST pathetic BCS Bowl games I have EVER witnessed... AND one of the lowest in T.V. Rankings...
I see. Haha. The Buckeyes have won two national championships in the past 40 years, which is great, but not eye-popping. They were impressive in beating Marshall their first game this year. Yawn. OSU has too much to lose in playing a team like BSU is what I said, if you would reread it. If they won, you and others would say BSU was overmatched. If BSU won, which they very well could, you and others would say it was a fluke. BSU is for real, and have been for five or six years. You may not know every thing....just a hunch.

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#13 Sep 8, 2010
wellduh2010 wrote:
<quoted text>
True the conference is weak, but how did Boise State do against big-time ranked teams in bowl games? Ummm. They won. Maybe the reason Ohio State and Wisconsin, et. al. dont schedule them is that they are afraid to lose--have too much to lose losing to a WAC team (soon to be MWC team). BSU beat Oklahoma in a bowl situation a few years back in 2006 to finish 13-0, and many thought they should have been final ranked #1. 2009 they beat national champ contender TCU to finish 14-0, and many thought they should have won the mythical national championship, They are for real.
Yes they beat them. What they play a ranked team once a year...big deal. My point is can they play the big schools every week and still continue winning? Until they play top compitition every week they DO NOT deserve a shot at the title. A 2 loss team from the ACC, SEC, Big 10, Big 12, or PAC 10 deserve a shot over an undefeated Big Sky team, as the compitition is much, much stronger!

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#14 Sep 8, 2010
wellduh2010 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see. Haha. The Buckeyes have won two national championships in the past 40 years, which is great, but not eye-popping. They were impressive in beating Marshall their first game this year. Yawn. OSU has too much to lose in playing a team like BSU is what I said, if you would reread it. If they won, you and others would say BSU was overmatched. If BSU won, which they very well could, you and others would say it was a fluke. BSU is for real, and have been for five or six years. You may not know every thing....just a hunch.
Perfection is right. BSU plays one ranked opponent and now they play a powderpuff scedule. VT will have to play FSU, Miami, the Gators, just to name a few. If they both run the table VT would deserve a national title shot over BSU on strength of schedule alone. What is so hard to get about that? You thinking BSU is for real is insane. Let them play in the Big 12, PAC 10 or the SEC or the ACC if they continue running the table then I will back off but until then BSU shouldnt even be playing in a BCS bowl and for sure they shouldnt be considered for a BCS Championship, as they play way to many powderpuffs!

“I got it back!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!”

Since: May 09

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#15 Sep 8, 2010
wellduh2010 wrote:
<quoted text>
I see. Haha. The Buckeyes have won two national championships in the past 40 years, which is great, but not eye-popping. They were impressive in beating Marshall their first game this year. Yawn. OSU has too much to lose in playing a team like BSU is what I said, if you would reread it. If they won, you and others would say BSU was overmatched. If BSU won, which they very well could, you and others would say it was a fluke. BSU is for real, and have been for five or six years. You may not know every thing....just a hunch.
2 national Championships...

Remind me again.. How many as BSU won???

That's what I thought..

Even with thier NO-STRENGTH schedule, they are USELESS!

OSU plays 5-7 CREDIBLE teams each year.. EVERY year! FLorida, Alabama, Penn State, USC, Texas... ALL play credible teams on a rotating basis.
BSU plays 1 team a year, and they are to be considered contenders...?????

Keep dreaming
Rat Killa

United States

#16 Sep 9, 2010
Chaos Undercover wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I say they had a weak defense? WHat I am saying is when you play weak teams you dont deseve a BCS Bowl. Let Boise State play in the PAC Ten or Big 12 see how they handle a tough team every week. Can they go to USC and win then play Oregon at home then to Stanford or Oregon State? When you play NM State, then go to Nevada, then some other week opponent its not fair that they get a BCS Bowl when a PAC 10 team with one or 2 losses does not when they obviously played a much tougher scedule than Boise State does.
In the previous thread where their ranking first came out, or did you forget? I believe that they can beat any of these teams. They can beat USC, Oregon, Stanford and Oregon State. Not every time maybe not even at those teams home turfs or on their own home field, but Boise State has proven that they can compete at the same level. The BCS just proves the need for a playoff system. That would be the true measure. Eliminating a very good team because of their conference doesn't make sense. With all of the realignments going on, it wont be long before Boise gets into a power house conference then this argument can be put to rest.

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Since: May 09

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#17 Sep 9, 2010
Rat Killa wrote:
<quoted text>In the previous thread where their ranking first came out, or did you forget? I believe that they can beat any of these teams. They can beat USC, Oregon, Stanford and Oregon State. Not every time maybe not even at those teams home turfs or on their own home field, but Boise State has proven that they can compete at the same level. The BCS just proves the need for a playoff system. That would be the true measure. Eliminating a very good team because of their conference doesn't make sense. With all of the realignments going on, it wont be long before Boise gets into a power house conference then this argument can be put to rest.
YOu get my approval on this...

We NEED a playoff system...

You could use the BOWL system to play it out as well..

#1. EVERY conference WILL have a championship game in Early November.
#2. The winner of each of those games will be "racked and stacked" to form a playoff bracket.
#3. The top 8 Bowl sites will be used as fields for these games
#4. After the 1st round of games, a 1 week bye will be awarded tot he top 4 teams still alive
#5. YOu go down till we get to a championship game...
#6. The rest of the bowls STILL get distributed to other teams as normal
#7. The National Champion will get a lion's share of the prize money based on the fact that they played MORE games.

This way, weak conference teams will have the SAME opportunity to compete (a-la College basketball march madness format) as everyone else.. And this will also make more of the game relevant!
Chuck Hays

Colcord, OK

#18 Sep 9, 2010
I don't think there should be a playoff system. Half the fun of college football is arguing, after the season is over, about who got screwed out of the National Championship.

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#19 Sep 9, 2010
Chuck Hays wrote:
I don't think there should be a playoff system. Half the fun of college football is arguing, after the season is over, about who got screwed out of the National Championship.
But all that does is give "Insert colorful metaphor here" like some on this forum room to claim schools are scared or afraid, when the system it's self is corrupt and slanted...

College Football NEEDS to join the 21st century and implement a playoff system
Chuck Hays

Colcord, OK

#20 Sep 9, 2010
Oklahoma, 30 - Utah ST., 24

Hmmmm, maybe that conference isn't as weak as we thought.

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