Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 258473 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#203755 Jan 16, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
May I put up a Satanist statue next to the Christian one on the front lawn of the Courthouse?
You can try.

No guarantees though.
May I have my Legal Tender without religious mottoes on?
No.

All legal American currency has the national motto on it.
May my daughter have the Pledge of Allegiance read at her without a spurious deity invoked?
Sure. When reciting the Pledge, she can replace "Under God" with "under Zod" for all I care.

She just can't do it in public.
May the US Government start each workday with an Imam saying "Allahu Akhbar"?
I don't see why not.

Unless they don't like getting shot at, of course.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#203757 Jan 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
That's the nation we are.
You may kiss our asses.
As I thought.

Preferential treatment.

“going back”

Since: Jul 09

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#203758 Jan 16, 2014
When i read what people write on this sight it really makes me want to push for spiritual education, I am not even claiming to be smart but, i am no dummy! I am sure you all are very smart, only not in the truth. I myself have no faith in Government, Church community, health care and it is only the one real personal experience, in what i am sure is the Holy spirit or Ghost that i am able to keep faith. I can not say what he looks like, i can only feel. I feel peace in my soul, My head and heart are very alone and Fear not, I just want to feel peace on earth. As i know it will be in Heaven. I am praying for unity, i am 48 years old, i have never felt anything true in my life, Only this faith in God.I am not preaching, i suppose you are like many religious people on this site, searching for unity and faith. If not this sight would be gone. We should agree on that. We all believe in something.that is what he wants, Trust in Him or it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#203759 Jan 16, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Try it sometime. Really, it's not that bad.
I don't know.....

I don't think I could.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#203760 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh. Then out of respect, I'll revisit your post.
<quoted text>
I'm sure she did....
I very carefully did NOT try to indoctrinate her into any system of thought.

I did, however, try to teach her to think. Science and logic, evidence - stuff like that.

She was Wiccan Lite for a while. I had no objection.

She became atheist all on her own, and I've rarely been prouder.

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#203761 Jan 16, 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/showbiz/tv/happ...

CNN does a lot of these things. Entertainers then and now.

Brings back lots of memories, right?

Having mass media entertainers occupy so much of your time and memories is something new.

Think how much of your life, and thinking, was shaped by them.

Sitting in front of the tube getting instructed. Parents used to make their kids go out and play and experience real life.

Now they are second and third generation instructees of the tube.

The ability to discern between truth and programming has disappeared.

As the twig is bent, the knothead is formed.

“going back”

Since: Jul 09

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#203762 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh. Then out of respect, I'll revisit your post.
<quoted text>
I'm sure she did....
How old is she, i am sorry when you say Atheist, i am not sure for real what that means. I am sure was raised well by her Father, I am also sure she was taught to be an Atheist from you.That is why i am asking does it mean what i am not a believer of the evil one called Satan, or is it you believe in the truth i do fear my faith in God. My good. This is another reason i believe faith should be taught in school. It was banned when i was in elementary school. I remember not much in life that is true, but that i remember as something that is real, I am figuring out history from My own facts and truth, like Kennedy`s and Hitler martin Luther king, anything. I am very smart about culture, and have been in relationship with a Persian for 26 years, and married to a Hispanic for 9 years
.

Since: Apr 09

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#203763 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
When i read what people write on this sight it really makes me want to push for spiritual education, I am not even claiming to be smart but, i am no dummy! I am sure you all are very smart, only not in the truth. I myself have no faith in Government, Church community, health care and it is only the one real personal experience, in what i am sure is the Holy spirit or Ghost that i am able to keep faith. I can not say what he looks like, i can only feel. I feel peace in my soul, My head and heart are very alone and Fear not, I just want to feel peace on earth. As i know it will be in Heaven. I am praying for unity, i am 48 years old, i have never felt anything true in my life, Only this faith in God.I am not preaching, i suppose you are like many religious people on this site, searching for unity and faith. If not this sight would be gone. We should agree on that. We all believe in something.that is what he wants, Trust in Him or it.
If you can't say what he looks like, how do you know its a he?
lie2menomo

Fernley, NV

#203764 Jan 16, 2014
I never want to go back to 2008, I did not say i am not grateful for all i was shown in my life. I am movinon09 , aka lie2menomo. aka Grace4usall2014.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#203765 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
<quoted text> How old is she, i am sorry when you say Atheist, i am not sure for real what that means. I am sure was raised well by her Father, I am also sure she was taught to be an Atheist from you.That is why i am asking does it mean what i am not a believer of the evil one called Satan, or is it you believe in the truth i do fear my faith in God. My good. This is another reason i believe faith should be taught in school. It was banned when i was in elementary school. I remember not much in life that is true, but that i remember as something that is real, I am figuring out history from My own facts and truth, like Kennedy`s and Hitler martin Luther king, anything. I am very smart about culture, and have been in relationship with a Persian for 26 years, and married to a Hispanic for 9 years
.
Which faith should be taught in schools?

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#203766 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"A number of parishes"......
What's the number?
Why didn't you list the church's name?
400 character limit.

Here's a start.

http://accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2013/01/annu...

For reasons I don't care to disclose, I don't want to engage in extensive discussion of the litigations.

Bongo will be very upset with the windfall to hard-working attorneys, hahaha.

Let me know what you think.

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#203767 Jan 16, 2014
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/...

Middle school sex education.

A very weak defense for such by the schools.

Read the list. Understand these are "OK". This is what people do. The school says so.

There is nothing on that poster that says a word about abstinence, not that it would matter. Kids want to be grownup, don't they?

So what stops 13 year olds from giving it a try?

The anal sex one is real interesting.

There is no agenda?

“going back”

Since: Jul 09

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#203768 Jan 16, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can't say what he looks like, how do you know its a he?
I knew that silly question was going to be asked, Your answer is in message i wrote a few minutes ago, Just because you are like me, in need of truth. I said Him, Her or it, for people who ask questions like is Santa real.I am not easy to fool, I am!

“going back”

Since: Jul 09

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#203769 Jan 16, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Which faith should be taught in schools?
ALL faiths and facts. speakers like you on a personal aspect to your fact and of-course , documented truth from history. This is to be age and theorized from K-12. That well be in time for child to make adult decision, like how we are taught Government and ha to be 18 to vote. I do not vote for the same reason i do not go to church,i do believe in a place i can worship i out there, just as i believe man needs to be governed.I am just not trusting in man and yet i have faith in him. I have learned this from some truth. I do not care if you want him, i just you to care, in my faith, my truth. Who am i to deny anyone the truth i know...... NEXT!!!!!

Since: Jun 12

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#203770 Jan 16, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G overnment/2014/01/15/Kansas-Mi ddle-School-Says-Poster-Listin g-Sex-Acts-Part-of-Health-and- Science-Curriculum
Middle school sex education.
A very weak defense for such by the schools.
Read the list. Understand these are "OK". This is what people do. The school says so.
There is nothing on that poster that says a word about abstinence, not that it would matter. Kids want to be grownup, don't they?
So what stops 13 year olds from giving it a try?
The anal sex one is real interesting.
There is no agenda?
The poster runs counter to the claims here.

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According to the publisher's website, the goal of the program is:

...to empower young adolescents to change their behavior in ways that will reduce their risk of pregnancy and HIV or other STD infection. Specifically, this curriculum emphasizes that young adolescents should postpone sexual activity and that practicing abstinence is the only way to eliminate the risk for pregnancy and STDs, including HIV.

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Sounds like they got busted and are now attempting to put a happy face on it. Inexcusably stupid. Anal sex avoids pregnancy and is a sign of affection?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#203771 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
<quoted text> ALL faiths and facts. speakers like you on a personal aspect to your fact and of-course , documented truth from history. This is to be age and theorized from K-12. That well be in time for child to make adult decision, like how we are taught Government and ha to be 18 to vote. I do not vote for the same reason i do not go to church,i do believe in a place i can worship i out there, just as i believe man needs to be governed.I am just not trusting in man and yet i have faith in him. I have learned this from some truth. I do not care if you want him, i just you to care, in my faith, my truth. Who am i to deny anyone the truth i know...... NEXT!!!!!
Are all faiths equivalently true? How can that be, when they often contradict each other?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#203772 Jan 16, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I very carefully did NOT try to indoctrinate her into any system of thought.
I did, however, try to teach her to think. Science and logic, evidence - stuff like that.
She was Wiccan Lite for a while. I had no objection.
She became atheist all on her own, and I've rarely been prouder.
Your use of "stuff like that" and "rarely been prouder" makes your claim that you didn't indoctrinate her highly dubious.

Since: Apr 09

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#203773 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
<quoted text> I knew that silly question was going to be asked, Your answer is in message i wrote a few minutes ago, Just because you are like me, in need of truth. I said Him, Her or it, for people who ask questions like is Santa real.I am not easy to fool, I am!
So you are easy to fool?

Since: Apr 09

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#203774 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
<quoted text> ALL faiths and facts. speakers like you on a personal aspect to your fact and of-course , documented truth from history. This is to be age and theorized from K-12. That well be in time for child to make adult decision, like how we are taught Government and ha to be 18 to vote. I do not vote for the same reason i do not go to church,i do believe in a place i can worship i out there, just as i believe man needs to be governed.I am just not trusting in man and yet i have faith in him. I have learned this from some truth. I do not care if you want him, i just you to care, in my faith, my truth. Who am i to deny anyone the truth i know...... NEXT!!!!!
"ALL faiths and facts. speakers like you on a personal aspect to your fact and of-course , documented truth from history."

Dude..WTF?

Since: Apr 09

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#203775 Jan 16, 2014
movinon09 wrote:
<quoted text> ALL faiths and facts. speakers like you on a personal aspect to your fact and of-course , documented truth from history. This is to be age and theorized from K-12. That well be in time for child to make adult decision, like how we are taught Government and ha to be 18 to vote. I do not vote for the same reason i do not go to church,i do believe in a place i can worship i out there, just as i believe man needs to be governed.I am just not trusting in man and yet i have faith in him. I have learned this from some truth. I do not care if you want him, i just you to care, in my faith, my truth. Who am i to deny anyone the truth i know...... NEXT!!!!!
If we teach all faiths, we're going to need a much, much longer school day...

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