Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Stokomo

Kingsport, TN

#200923 Jan 9, 2014
Here's my thought of the moment. Believe (or not believe) what you want. Who is anyone to decide if one is right or wrong. Science doesn't know the answers and many think they go on absolute truth of what things are, but science still has yet to answer the old-aged question of who, or what, created the "Big Bang". Science has theories which in the religion world people call them faith. What one believes doesn't make him a fool, just as what one doesn't believe makes him intelligent. One last thought..... If a Christian is wrong about creation, they have lost nothing; if a non-believer is wrong, what have they lost?

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#200924 Jan 9, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the alleged god today Zeus? No proof for him either.
Have they strip mined Olympus?

The bastards

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#200925 Jan 9, 2014
Stokomo wrote:
Here's my thought of the moment. Believe (or not believe) what you want. Who is anyone to decide if one is right or wrong. Science doesn't know the answers and many think they go on absolute truth of what things are, but science still has yet to answer the old-aged question of who, or what, created the "Big Bang". Science has theories which in the religion world people call them faith. What one believes doesn't make him a fool, just as what one doesn't believe makes him intelligent. One last thought..... If a Christian is wrong about creation, they have lost nothing; if a non-believer is wrong, what have they lost?
Stokomo wrote:
One last thought..... If a Christian is wrong about creation, they have lost nothing; if a non-believer is wrong, what have they lost?
Nothing.

I was just talking about nothing.

Can you multiply that by 4? I have friends.

Wait, make that 2.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#200926 Jan 9, 2014
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>
I checked a chapter of Fellowship of Freethought and I didn't see anything about atheism is the driving force behind this chapter. I'm beginning to think you are making this up.
When atheists do good things, it's about their atheism.

When they do bad things, like say, murder 150 million people, it is NOT about their atheism.

That rule will be helpful as you read their posts.

The rule for religions is the exact reverse.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#200927 Jan 9, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
One more Redneck dodge.
You're spineless.
And you didn't address your bigotry, either to me, or to River.
Coward.
No sir.

I have a spine.

Otherwise I couldn't stand up.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#200928 Jan 9, 2014
Kim Jong Un's executed uncle was eaten alive by 120 hungry dogs: report, is North korea an atheist nation?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#200929 Jan 9, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>Have they strip mined Olympus?

The bastards
I reckon.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#200930 Jan 9, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Buck, I don't mean to be giving you advice.
As I see it though, it's a bad bet. Terrible odds.
Pascal's wager is your only real way out.
But that's cowardly, and in any case no reasonable good would buy into it.
If I'm wrong, how am I worse off than you?

If I'm right, then I live with a proper perspective - one that connects me to everyone, and aspires to see myself in others.

I think that's a good perspective.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#200931 Jan 9, 2014
Bongo wrote:
Kim Jong Un's executed uncle was eaten alive by 120 hungry dogs: report, is North korea an atheist nation?
Were the dogs religious?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#200932 Jan 9, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems you are equating Islam with Christianity.
If what you say is true, why does the expression of those belief systems look so different today?
SMile.
<quoted text>
Well that's funny, I see all those horrible things happening in Atheistic and Islamic countries every day. In countries even marginally Christian or Jewish? No.
Makes you look like an ignorant bigot.
SMile.
First recorded murder in history – Genesis 4.2-8

First recorded genocide – Genesis 6:11-17, 7:11-24

Biblical rape - 2 Samuel 13:1-15

God commands the murder of unarmed men, women and children - Ezekiel 9:4-6

Slavery and theft - Numbers 31:9

Murder and Slavery - Numbers 31:17-18

Slavery and mutilation - Exodus 21:20-21

Had enough of the babble stories then how about Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Anders Bhring Beivik, good cristians all

Then we have Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic who committed ethnic genocide against in the name of their christian church

Do not accept that the IRA were mass murdering terrorists in the name of their church?

How about the NLFT in india, more good christian terrorist murderers

And the KKK and anti abortionists in the US, what about those dealers in misery, the eastern European human traffickers, the majority of all those caught and tried are christian.

Hitler was catholic, his actions were based on his christian beliefs and he was never excommunicated.

Stalin was raised christian and once his power was consolidated he set about rebuilding the church in russia.

Facts are facts no matter what your preacher tells you.

And if you want personal experience of the hatred that christians bestow on those who will not bow down to there god or conform to there particular version of morality I can give you several harrowing and atrocious examples.

As for jewish I know of several Palestinians who have suffered at the hands of the jewish military, I employ a girl who brother was MURDERED in his bed because the local Jewish people wanted to build a new settlement on land that he owned.

So christian or jewish? Yes

Ignorant bigot? I think not, I simply think you are blind (or deliberately ignorant) to what you church does to some sick minded people

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#200933 Jan 9, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:

From what we have seen here of the Redneck, he's in dire need, for his own sake, of anger management counseling. It's too late for parenting classes, but domestic violence counseling would also be advisable.
Lol

Liberal counseling?

I think nay.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#200934 Jan 9, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>My contention was and is that you lied
The only 'dodge' was your refusal to explain how you were so well versed in the OT at 12 years old
I'm even gonna do you a favor and give you some advice. You can't dig your way out of a hole.You wanted to impress people. You aren't the first to do it on Topix and certainly won't be the last.. It was a stupid claim to make. Suck it up and move on.
If you are not familiar with BakedBufoon, it behooves you to know he is a habitual liar and a hopeless idiot.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#200935 Jan 9, 2014
UidiotRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> And yours?
Not religious/athiest
Wrong, no god and atheism is fact based, not bronze age mythology and iron age lie based

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#200936 Jan 9, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No sir.
I have a spine.
Otherwise I couldn't stand up.
Or dodge like you constantly do, and show again here.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#200937 Jan 9, 2014
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Chrissy, im sending you to refinement school.
Whatever turns you on.

Tell me do they have whips and shackles or just good old christian morality and threats of hell?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#200938 Jan 9, 2014
Jay wrote:
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I don't see the word atheist where you claim it is. Also, there is nothing that I found that they do good because they are atheist or because of anything in atheism is the reason to do good. Saying what kinds of people make up a group says nothing about atheism being the guiding principle.
Didn't see anything on Gates being an atheist and atheism being the guiding principle to do good.
As for your claim not to have a dogma is not true. The mission statement is dogma.
Now tell me: what good were atheists doing 500 years ago?
The mindset of the Topix Atheist! says that if an atheist does something good, it's because of their atheism. If they do something bad, it's because of their Christian upbringing.

Hope that helps.

It's all in the Topix Atheist! handbook....

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#200939 Jan 9, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol
Liberal counseling?
I think nay.
Yes, you certainly could benefit from a liberal dose of anger management and domestic violence counseling.

Read carefully, wiseass.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#200940 Jan 9, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No sir.
I have a spine.
Otherwise I couldn't stand up.
Have you ever chased a boneless chicken?

KFC seems to get them all.

Good training, I guess.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#200941 Jan 9, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Buck, read your own effing post.
And, no, you have NOT shown that Throckmorton is wrong. Your arguments boil down to:
1) Throckmorton is not a conservative, and is therefore wrong.
2) Barton is right because Barton says he is right.
It should be very telling that you haven't presented ANYONE other than yourself, Barton, or Barton's employees that say Barton is right.
If everyone is telling you that you are wrong, you should at least consider that maybe you are. But not you. That's not the Buck way.
"Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong…
NAAAAH!
I'm an asshole."
--Dennis Leary
BTW, I see that you still can't bring yourself not to throw out insults.
See the new Buck, same as the old Buck.
Barton proved Throckmorton wrong.

He did it with historical, documented references.

Please, give me some more smearage on Barton, so I can continue to make a fool of you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#200942 Jan 9, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
For one, the cockroach fossil is not the same as today's cockroaches. Similar, yes, but not the same.
For two, cockroaches are incredibly well adapted for their niche. And that niche has changed very little over a very long time. Without the selective pressure caused by a changing environment, little change will occur in a species...since it is already well adapted.
Pointing to a single example isn't going to discredit the theory of evolution unless you bring a whole lot more to the table. In the same 49 million years, a semi-aquatic hoofed shore predator has become the whales and dolphins we see today. With whales, their niche changed radically and the lineage changed radically along with it.
In fact, all mammal species have changed radically over the last 65 million years. The extinction of the dinosaurs changed the equation for mammals. At the end of the Cretaceous mammals were small nocturnal shrew-like animals. Then, without the competition of the dinosaurs, they were able exploit a vast range of new environments, diversifying into what we see today.
Oh yes, the whales....

The ones that were pond scum then turned into fishies then later turned into land animals then later turned back into really big fishies.

But what sense would it make for a land creature to evolve back into a water creature and not grow some friggin gills?

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