Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Ditat Deus”

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#197999 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Good. Now try to find a few chances to use the word and cement it in before it slips away. Wouldn't you agree that that word was perfect for the occasion?:
"If you want to see the future of that battle, look at the analogous kerfuffle that arose in the area of racism, which has been evolving for a few decades longer."
Bullocks!

I don't use those British words.

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#198000 Jan 1, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You're just trying to keep a man down, you Newtonist.
He has the best figs...or so I've heard.

Since: May 10

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#198001 Jan 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Mao just didn't know how to farm.
Stalin lost a lot of people defending the land from the Christian Hitler. Millions dead because the Christian Hitler tried to invade Russia.
It was in service of Teh God.
Gott mit uns
Yep.
"In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of Marxist theory, developed primarily by Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, religion is seen as retarding human development, and socialist states that follow a Marxist-Leninist variant are atheistic and explicitly antireligious. Due to this, a number of Marxist-Leninst governments in the twentieth century, such as the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, implemented rules introducing state atheism."

Key phrases:

"atheistic and explicitly anti-religious"

"state atheism"

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#198002 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Hitler was a pagan and a Darwinist, not a christian.....
Christianity is a pagan religion you dullard.

“Ditat Deus”

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#198003 Jan 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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RR doesn't like it when we type in English words.
He used to tell me that I spell colour wrong. My Nanny would have given him a gubbing.
Gor blimey you blithering arse.

I told you I don't use British words.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#198004 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You're wrong.
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What's to debate?
For starters, Skombolis said it all. I agree with his position. He explained the difference between SNl and the others named.
Furthermore, you didn't seem to have any interest in learning, You simply declared the comedic version tantamount to SNL's parodies of the news, with no argument and no apparent understanding of what the Daily Show did or just what constitutes news.
Now you are inquiring. Good.That's a better attitude.
Did you look at the Jon Stewart video on John Beale? I t appears not. Let's compare it to what you consider news. Go back to Skombolis' post introducing the thread to this matter.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Skombolis presented a fairly comprehensive summary of the story, which you would probably agree is news, as well as a link to a Washington Post article covering it, which is also news.
Now look at Stewart's coverage in the link I provided, which is where I became aware of the story. It's got the same news content, with humor added. The humor does not diminish the news content, nor make it not news.
Bill Maher's show does the same thing. It discusses the news. It addresses most of the big stories, and supplies most of the pertinent data. You don't really need much more than those two shows unless you want to see the police following a car on the freeway or a family in tears over some misfortune - things that don't rate as news to me.
I like to watch Vera at KTLA to see what the "marine layer" is doing, but not for news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =p0_1KmPxbMoXX
And I already gave you my review of Fox "News" when I got back from Puerto Vallarta
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Better?
You're all sixes and sevens, mate.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#198005 Jan 1, 2014
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Eagle 12 wrote:
In my above post the school district has a right to make policy and enforce those rules. The lack of sensitivity dealing with the issue is what has caused the outrage. The school district should just have reminded the drivers of the school policy and not disciplined them. This is probably only happened just this one time and itís not likely going to be repeated. Discipline can be counter productive to the moral of the drivers especially when itís been heavy handed.
Perhaps you should consider a different reaction than outrage. I don't think it's working for you. You'll might get more sympathy with a different demeanor.

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Since: Jul 12

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#198006 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Really? There's only one holiday left in the season. Yule is over, Saturnalia is over. Christmas is over. Hanukkah is over. Festivus is over. HumanLight is over. Kwanzaa is over.
Yes but we still have New Year's Day, Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, Saint Basil's Day, Twelfth Night, Epiphany Eve, Epiphany and Armenian Apostolic Christmas.

Let's be tolerant, we **have to** include everyone...

It's not Happy New Year, it's still Happy Holidays.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#198007 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh God.
Parenting advice from Ben....
At least I don't beat my wife and children like you did.

The difference between you and I is this;
I regret allowing my child to be raised in a Christian home by her mother.
You are proud of being a violent, hate filled pig.

RR denies his own confession in 3... 2... 1...

Since: May 10

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#198008 Jan 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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I don't see the word improve there?
Buck Crick wrote:

"What do you recommend we do about that?"

River Tam wrote:

"It's fairly simple. We should stop trying to differentiate."
__________

You pointed out a problem. You made a recommendation of what to do about it. That implies improvement.

Saying what "to do about" a problem is saying how to improve it.

Unless you point out problems, and then recommend ways to make them worse.

I don't believe that is what you were doing.

I hope I don't have to explain all of your positions to you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#198009 Jan 1, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
But hereís what I would like to say about: "The Ugly Collusion Between 'Religious Faith' and Bigotry" Alvin McEwan Hereís what it should have said. The bigoted religious intolerant Ugly Collusion against the Religious Faithful. Eagle 12
Atta boy! Make sure everybody knows how victimized you feel - how unfair people are to criticize Christian homophobia.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#198010 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
I thought we were supposed to say "Happy Holidays"? What has changed... Oh yeah. Christmas has passed. Now we are free to say names of holidays. Thanks, Blob.
There's only one holiday left, so I name it by name..

Even when I used to consider Christmas the only solstice holiday, I would say Happy Holidays before Christmas, Merry Christmas on Christmas, nothing immediately after Christmas, and Happy New Year as it became imminent.

Nowadays, I tend to say Merry Christmas only to those who say it to me first, or to people that I am certain only respect it. If I don't know, or if you are a Jew or atheist, I'll say Happy Holidays. The purpose is not to slight Christians, but to avoid slighting non-Christians. Is that OK, or is that a War on Christmas?

Somebody - perhaps Darwin's Stepchild, maybe Catcher - just posted that they have switched over to Happy Holidays because of this kerfuffle (<-- that was for RR's benefit). It sounds so selfish - so narcissistic - for Christians to be chucking a tanty (<-- got that from Juice) over this matter.

It's the same self-centeredness that I just atta-boyed Eagle, and the same one I referred to with Clearwater when he was outraged that a public outcry could shape public discourse when referring to the reaction to Duckman, oblivious to the fact of Christians doing just that to get Duckman reinstated. The victim mentality isn't becoming in a majority, especially one that has never cared what others (non-Christians) want. Never. Not even a little.

I sense that people are getting progressively more disenchanted with Christian public opinion. If so, shouldn't offending Christians start noticing that, caring about it, and adapting their language where appropriate to account for it?

That article Happy Lesbo linked to < http://www.lovingspirituality.com/how-evangel... > where a blogger listed 14 points where some Christians are being (in his opinion) un-Christlike drew the usual reaction from two Christians here (Eagle and Clearwater < http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... >): resentment and denial. It's extremely unbecoming, and in my opinion, evokes exactly the opposite attitude hoed for.

Since: May 10

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#198011 Jan 1, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Christianity is a pagan religion you dullard.
Sure. Just like religious persecution has nothing to do with religion.

pa∑gan noun \&#712;p&#257;-g&# 601;n

: heathen 1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)
2
: one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person

Related Words
atheist, giaour, infidel, misbeliever, miscreant, nonbeliever, unbeliever; non-Christian, non-Jew, non-Muslim; neo-pagan, polytheist
__________

Gotta hand it to you, BenFucked.

When you set out to be stupid, you go balls to the wall.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a....

Since: Mar 09

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#198012 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ever see Demolition Man? Stallone & Snipes movie.
I hope America never gets to the Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy society depicted in that movie.
Be Well.
You know, even though both of them have done some decent stuff, especially Stallone, I just couldn't take that pairing seriously enough to watch anything they were in together so I don't know any details of the movie. But just from context and our previous exchanges on PC I am sure I have an idea what you are referring to. And yeah part of being an American means we get to be different and act different from one another and don't have to walk around on egg-shells

Besides, ironically if people wanna hurt tolerance they will ramp up the PC. Not only it causes resentment but it makes people so afraid of talking to one another for anything they say may be misconstrued that it becomes easier for many to just avoid the exchange all together.

Happy New Year RR

Since: Oct 10

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#198013 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"In the Marxist-Leninist interpretation of Marxist theory, developed primarily by Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin, religion is seen as retarding human development, and socialist states that follow a Marxist-Leninist variant are atheistic and explicitly antireligious. Due to this, a number of Marxist-Leninst governments in the twentieth century, such as the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, implemented rules introducing state atheism."
Key phrases:
"atheistic and explicitly anti-religious"
"state atheism"
[citation needed]

:-)

Since: May 10

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#198014 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There's only one holiday left, so I name it by name..
Even when I used to consider Christmas the only solstice holiday, I would say Happy Holidays before Christmas, Merry Christmas on Christmas, nothing immediately after Christmas, and Happy New Year as it became imminent.
Nowadays, I tend to say Merry Christmas only to those who say it to me first, or to people that I am certain only respect it. If I don't know, or if you are a Jew or atheist, I'll say Happy Holidays. The purpose is not to slight Christians, but to avoid slighting non-Christians. Is that OK, or is that a War on Christmas?
Somebody - perhaps Darwin's Stepchild, maybe Catcher - just posted that they have switched over to Happy Holidays because of this kerfuffle (<-- that was for RR's benefit). It sounds so selfish - so narcissistic - for Christians to be chucking a tanty (<-- got that from Juice) over this matter.
It's the same self-centeredness that I just atta-boyed Eagle, and the same one I referred to with Clearwater when he was outraged that a public outcry could shape public discourse when referring to the reaction to Duckman, oblivious to the fact of Christians doing just that to get Duckman reinstated. The victim mentality isn't becoming in a majority, especially one that has never cared what others (non-Christians) want. Never. Not even a little.
I sense that people are getting progressively more disenchanted with Christian public opinion. If so, shouldn't offending Christians start noticing that, caring about it, and adapting their language where appropriate to account for it?
That article Happy Lesbo linked to < http://www.lovingspirituality.com/how-evangel... > where a blogger listed 14 points where some Christians are being (in his opinion) un-Christlike drew the usual reaction from two Christians here (Eagle and Clearwater < http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... >): resentment and denial. It's extremely unbecoming, and in my opinion, evokes exactly the opposite attitude hoed for.
No, there is not only one holiday left.

Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God: 1 January
Saint Basil's Day: 1 January
Twelfth Night: Epiphany Eve: 5 January
Epiphany: 6 January
Armenian Apostolic Christmas: 6 January
Imbolc: 1 February
Candlemas: 2 February
Hedgehog Day: 2 February
Lupercalia, 15 February
Valentine's Day: 14 February

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#198015 Jan 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
He has the best figs...or so I've heard.
He took down a pretty tough cookie on the way to the top.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_K0nglxms6Lw/TOXXHrp...

Since: Mar 09

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#198016 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I think Fox News is great at what you just wrote.
"give people the facts and let them draw their own conclusions versus trying to give their opinions to them"
Bill O'Reilly is great at that. He brings on lefts and rights to form a small debate and usually gives the first the last word.
That's why I said I don't mind O'Reilly

He is a smart guy and can be somewhat witty. And while he sometimes caters to ideologues, he isn't one himself.

But at the same time let's not exaggerate his format or him. He can be very condescending and dismissive and often has people from the other side simply to try to discredit their position, not just give air to it

But its his job so I don't hold it against him. But it isn't like he is hosting a debate and neutrally observing. People are gong to form the opinion O'Relly gives them based on his response to what his 'guests' say. The O'Reilly show is an editorialized format

But we are getting way off the point anyway. Buck wanted to claim I was lying because i said almost all of Fox is editorialized news despite only having one example to the contrary for a 24 hour news network. It was a goofy thing to try to argue. The format is what it is.

Since: Oct 10

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#198017 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Buck Crick wrote:
"What do you recommend we do about that?"
River Tam wrote:
"It's fairly simple. We should stop trying to differentiate."
__________
You pointed out a problem. You made a recommendation of what to do about it. That implies improvement.
Saying what "to do about" a problem is saying how to improve it.
Unless you point out problems, and then recommend ways to make them worse.
I don't believe that is what you were doing.
I hope I don't have to explain all of your positions to you.
Lighten up Buck.

My girlfriend had too much to drink last night and I needed something to do.

Btw, do you know how hard it is to get a drunk Korean girl into bed?

Baaaahahahahaha

Never mind.

;-p

Since: May 10

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#198018 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There's only one holiday left, so I name it by name..
Do you think there is one person on this thread who is dumb enough to buy that?

I don't. And I realize we have some very dumb ones.

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