Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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“Ungood doubleplus duckspeak.”

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No.
It just sounds dorky.
"besmirch"
Say it.
...
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SAY IT!
Besmirch.

By golly I do love that word.
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Bartleby: I was close. You know, I was so close to slittin' that bitch's throat. You know how that felt? Righteous. Justified. Eager, even.
Loki: You alright man? Your eyes are kinda...
Bartleby:(interrupting) My eyes are open. For the first time, I get it. When that little innocent girl let her mission slip, I had an epiphany. See, in the beginning, it was just us and Him. Angels and God.
Loki: Uh huh.
Bartleby: Then he created humans. Ours was designed to be a life of servitude and worship... and bowing and scraping and adoration. He gave them more than He ever gave us. He gave them a choice. They choose to acknowledge God, or choose to ignore him. All this time we've been down here, I've felt the absence of the Divine presence. And it's pained me... As I'm sure it must have pained you. And why? Because of the way he made us. Had we been given free will, we could choose to ignore the pain. Like they do. But no! We're servants!
Loki: Okay... You know, all I'm sayin' here, is one of us might need a little nap.
Bartleby:(claps hands) Wake up! These humans have besmirched everything He's bestowed upon them. They were given Paradise -- they threw it away. They were given this planet -- they destroyed it. They were favored best among all His endeavors, and some of them don't even believe he exists. And in spite of it all... He hath shown them infinite fucking patience at every turn. What about us? I asked you... Once, to lay down the sword, because I felt sorry for them. What was the result? Our expulsion from Paradise! Where was his infinite fucking patience then?! It's not right! It's not fair! We've paid our debt. Don't you think it's time... Don't you think it's time we went home? And to do that... I... I think we may have to dispatch our-our would be dispatchers.
Loki: Wait. Wait. Wait. Kill them?(Bartleby grins) You're talking about the Last Scion for Chrissakes! And what about Jay and Bob? I mean... Those guys were alright.
Bartleby: Don't. Don't my friend. See, don't let your sympathies get the best of you. They did me once. Scion or not, she's just a human. And by passing through that arch, our sins are forgiven. No harm, no foul.(walks away)
Loki: My God. I've heard a rant like this before.
Bartleby:(turning around) What did you say?
Loki: I've heard a rant like this before.
Bartleby: Don't you fuckin' do that to me.
Loki: You sound like the Morning Star. Bartleby: You shut your fuckin' mouth, Seraph!
Loki: You do! You sound like Lucifer man! You fuckin' lost it! You're not talkin' about goin' home Bartleby, you're talkin' about fuckin' war on God. Well fuck that. I have seen what happens to the proud when then take on the throne. I'm goin' back to Wisconsin.
(Bartleby violently throws Loki against a pillar in the parking garage)
Bartleby: We're going home, Loki! And no one, not you, not even the Almighty himself, is gonna make that otherwise.(Bartleby walks away.)
Loki: Shit.(he follows)
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Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> How did you get your pic in there, you have to be over 50? Oh, the mileage
Are you still a 'Lil Ticked'?

Get over it.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Aw, c'mon.
Give me a quarter.

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LuciFerr wrote:
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If it was what you described, you did the best you could in a difficult situation, I can't say I agree with it, I have big strong boys but I do think you feel remorse, or these accusations and exaggerations would not phase you.
Yes ma'am. I wish it never happened.

Which I never met the bitch.

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**wish** not *which*

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That's unfortunate that partisan hate runs that deep in you that you can't admit presidents are patriots without comparing presidents of the opposing party to mass murderers
Can you imagine how bad the mass murderers feel being compared to Clinton?

Clinton is not a patriot.

Patriots don't receive draft notices and not report, while remaining in the public spotlight.

Can you name another president with that history?

No.

The Clintons are rakes, liars, America-hating whores, and narcissists.

Slick Willie murdered 80 of his citizens at Waco. He likely forcibly raped Juanita Broderick.

The appeal to patriotism is the last refuge.

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River Tam wrote:
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Thank you, Chris. I know there's nothing I can do about it now but I keep beating myself up wondering why I didn't see it. I kept going on and on to him about how happy I am never seeing the gun in his mouth. It was selfish on my part.
Btw, your wife isn't a homosexual :)
Have a nice Christmas.
For some reason this has been on my mind all week. Wanted to share a song with you, it may help. At least it did with my friend as answers never came. Take care.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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And I am a married bachelor.
If we assume a bachelor is the default position of rationality, and I am married, I can just say I am a married bachelor, because bachelor doesn't mean unmarried any more. It now just means ambivalence toward marriage.
Neat, huh?
Or you could just be a married man who holds an undergraduate degree....

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You must be on the rag today.
Ask Buck about me and Reagan.
I don't worship politicians or their parties.
The Clintons are meglomanical maniac rabblerousers who kill those who get in their way.
When you are right, you are right.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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RESPONSE FROM URI NODELMAN, SENIOR EDITOR, STANFORD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF PHILOSOPHY:
"In our understanding, the argument for this broader notion was
introduced into the philosophical literature by Antony Flew in "The
Presumption of Atheism" (1972). In that work, he noted that he was
USING AN ETYMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT to try to convince people *not* to
follow the *STANDARD MEANING* of the term. His goal was to reframe
the debate about the existence of God and to re-brand "atheism" as a
default position.
Not everyone has been convinced to use the term in Flew's way simply
on the force of his argument. For some, who consider themselves
atheists in the traditional sense, Flew's efforts seemed to be an
attempt to WATER DOWN a perfectly good concept. For others, who
consider themselves agnostics in the traditional sense, Flew's efforts
seemed to be an attempt to re-label them "atheists" -- a term they
rejected.
All the best,
Uri Nodelman Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Senior Editor
http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jve/papers/10/pdfs/d...

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes ma'am. I wish it never happened.
Which I never met the bitch.
Understood.

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irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> there's the mangy dog pissing on my leg, haha! i knew he was round here somewhere! i once had a dog named stay, he was the most confused dog i ever saw, i tell him come and he'd just sit there, with that dumba$$ look on his face, kind of like some people, "behold, i send you out as sheep amongst the wolves"
lol

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Buck Crick wrote:
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And I am a married bachelor.
If we assume a bachelor is the default position of rationality, and I am married, I can just say I am a married bachelor, because bachelor doesn't mean unmarried any more. It now just means ambivalence toward marriage.
Neat, huh?
My brother is an only child.

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Catcher1 wrote:
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I do my share of giving, personally (no brag, just fact).
But I also believe that, as members of society, we are parties to a social contract and should render assistance, collectively, to the weaker members of our society. Yes, give some of the buttons of our societal shirt to those who are in need.
I haven't seen or signed any such contract.

I think it was de Toqueville who said it. The democracy will end when people realize they can vote themselves other people's money.

Thanks mostly to one party, people now realize just that.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What election did Palin lose?
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Palin didn't run for president, so....
I voted McCain.
I didn't say she did.

She was a Vice Presidential candidate.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Can you imagine how bad the mass murderers feel being compared to Clinton?
Clinton is not a patriot.
Patriots don't receive draft notices and not report, while remaining in the public spotlight.
Can you name another president with that history?
No.
The Clintons are rakes, liars, America-hating whores, and narcissists.
Slick Willie murdered 80 of his citizens at Waco. He likely forcibly raped Juanita Broderick.
The appeal to patriotism is the last refuge.
Dick Cheney.

Interesting: I tried to post my reply, and Topix warned me to refrain from posting profanity or offensive material. I kid you not.

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LuciFerr wrote:
Stick to googling "Christian Murder".

It will save you from any attempt at thinking, which is when you look most stupid.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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I haven't seen or signed any such contract.
I think it was de Toqueville who said it. The democracy will end when people realize they can vote themselves other people's money.
Thanks mostly to one party, people now realize just that.
Read Rousseau and get back to me.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Please answer:
I believe no god or gods exist.
A. True
B. False
Answer that, and I will tell you whether you are an atheist.
Obviously, you don't know if you are or not.
By the way, I already know the answer. In other posts, you affirm the belief that no god exists.
But when you discuss the meaning of "atheism", you deny that belief.
There's a word for that.
I affirm a lack of belief, you can word that however you like, makes no difference to me, my thoughts or my life.

I am not a faith based thinker.

I don't expect you to understand.

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LuciFerr wrote:
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That's all you can come up with Drongo?
You can't get hot women can you? Does it make you cry into your special lotion?
Just curious.
You need a better avatar. There is a slot machine series called Lil Lucy. This link goes to some photos of the machine and her. You should be able to carve out her photo from one of those photos. There could be copyright issues if you worry about such things. Being a little devil, probably not.

https://www.google.com/search...

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