Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#194261 Dec 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Your jesus was loves men, you love your jesus (a man)
You must be gay, your jesus must be gay
Methinks you really have not thought this trough properly
Your a retard,you make no sense at all,stupid idiot,last comment to you,I know of a great exorcist,because honey you are in need of an exorcism,are at the very least a good psychiatrist,you've lost it!

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#194262 Dec 20, 2013
Kit 56 wrote:
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Oh yes wise one I do,proof,look at everything around you,look at the creation,are you trying to tell us this just happened?That is the great deception that your buddy lucifer has convinced you of,the Big Bang,evolution?It's like this,the little boy ask his teacher if we came from monkeys,scratching his head,then why are there still monkeys!You people won't and can't answer that,you just continue to say the same old crap..The problem with all of you is you can't prove there is no God.
Ehm, nope, guesses based on bronze age ignorance, fallacy and mythology prove nothing.

Actually yes, US PEOPLE can answer that and have been answering that since it’s discovery. What is the problem here is that YOU PEOPLE ignore the facts

Actually I can prove (much to the consternation of certain godbots on here) that the god described in KJV, revelation 19:6 cannot exist in this universe at the same time as you so where does that leave you?

However there is the point that once again, those certain YOU PEOPLE ignore the facts and pretend that it will all go away if they ignore it hard enough

Seems to me that you have a faith built on ignorance but hey, you are welcome to it

Io Saturnalia
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194263 Dec 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Ahh then perhaps we need to temper that education with morality,
That’s you intolerant and hate fuelled godbots out of the picture then
After the navy got into port, The sailors said you were savage as napalm

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#194264 Dec 20, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Here's a sample of what Christinemc^2 means by proper thinking:
"His evolutionary racism; his call to the German people for racial purity and unflinching
devotion to a “just” state; his belief that harsh, inexorable laws of evolution ruled human
civilization and nature alike, conferring upon favored races the right to dominate others; the
irrational mysticism that had always stood in strange communion with his grave words about
objective science—all contributed to the rise of Nazism."
-Stephen Jay Gould, Ontogeny and Phylogeny (1977)1
Are you talking about that good christian Hitler?

Buck Crick

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#194265 Dec 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Sure they can, I'm just waiting for somebody to answer it without bias or prejudice.
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I didn't blow it off, I scrolled past because it was a response to Buck, not me.
But you said the same biased, hateful and prejudiced kind of answer.
"Or maybe it's because churches, preachers, and Christians call AIDS their god's revenge"
You didn't answer my question, you ranted about a small percentage of extremist Christians. They do not represent the whole of Christianity but you pretend that they do.
That is bigotry, IANS. I just want you to acknowledge that.
How 'bout this one.

Gays think the christian church hates them because they espouse the doctrine that homosexuality is a grave sin, punishable eternally, when all other sins are matters of choice, while the person who is gay was likely born gay, and that is no different than being punished eternally for being born with a deformed limb.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#194266 Dec 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Really? Let's look. Unless you want me to just make them up, I'll have to cut and paste those scriptures, something you seemed to object to in a recent post.
I did not say I object to you copy and pasting, I said you copy and pasted Scripture you don't understand.
[1] "The fool says in his heart,'There is no God.' They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good" - Psalm 14:1
[2] "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." - Revelation 21:8
[3]“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?”- 2 Corinthians 6:14
[4] Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ." - 1 John 2:22
That one heckuva warning.
I know, right?
Most of it not written to unbelievers, but about them, so I'm not sure how it constitutes a warning, especially if they need to wait for a bible scholar to come along to interpret it. What if it's all allegory and metaphor?
You are an unbeliever and you've read it.

Imagine that.
This "warning" also manages to call us unbelievers lying, corrupt, vile, abominable, godless vessels in the service of evil, not one of which does any good, and fit to be burned alive forever as the moral equivalent of murderers and whoremongers.
It doesn't say that.

You're exaggerating.

Look up, you posted the Scripture.

See what I mean about not understanding?
You don't see any bigotry - any prejudiced intolerance - there, do you?
Ya, I do.
But you did see bigotry against Christianity for suggesting that it is homophobic.
I see that, too.

It seems you don't.

You see all Christians as one being, what one Christian does, all Christians do.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#194267 Dec 20, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Irony...
Yes it is isn’t it that a man who loves another man so much can condemn gays so volubly

One of the ironies of christianity

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#194268 Dec 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Ahh then perhaps we need to temper that education with morality,
That’s you intolerant and hate fuelled godbots out of the picture then
Wait sorry one more comment,we are Intolerant,WHAT,your the haters,your the ones who go around with your filthy mouth cursing God,call a doctor quick your head is spinning and your spitting green slime...
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#194269 Dec 20, 2013
Here it is. Complete with Russia subtitles.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15mxtg_bbc-...
ChristineM wrote:
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I’d like to see it again too. The beeb have taken it down other than a clip of Lee Smolin. It was that program that got me interested in the BB, since then I have spent many happy hour reading up on the research. I think Laura Mersini-Houghton’s treatise is the most complete to date.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#194270 Dec 20, 2013
Russian, even. ^
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#194271 Dec 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Not just the pedophiles. More priests obstructed justice than diddled altar boys.
But I think we know that almost none of them will be prosecuted. There is almost no will to do so. The Vatican could have been treated the way the Mafia, NAMBLA, or a Thai sex syndicate would have been treated were it running the same operation in the US and the world. But it wasn't and probably never will be. Religion gets a pass.
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Sure, the rules of evidence need to be respected, and fair trials conducted. But is this really the time to be worried about innocent priests? How about innocent altar boys?
When the Catholic Church begins cooperating with law enforcement, we'll have a clearer picture of the history of these priests and will be in a better position to decide which are guilty. Without that, the process may be less efficient. Innocent priests can take that up with the Church.
And really, how many are innocent? How many haven't turned their back on a known or suspected problem?
Would you be warning us not to be overly zealous in prosecuting the Mafia, NAMBLA or a Thai sex syndicate molesting American boys in America?
I agree with you that no doubt there’s been abuses and those abusive Priest got away with nothing. They should have been hung right there in the courthouse.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#194272 Dec 20, 2013
So your god couldn't predict the impact of industry?
Your god is not so bright.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
The belief of Catcher or myself has nothing to do with our individual carbon footprints.
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No that's not what I said.
Not even close.
And last I checked, God didn't create airplanes.
Think, Thinking. I dare you.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#194273 Dec 20, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> After the navy got into port, The sailors said you were savage as napalm
Yes of course you must be a christian

What does you god tell you about lusting after married women?

RiversideRedneck

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#194274 Dec 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
So you admit you are a slave owner? Or are you lying? My guess is that you are a lying christian juts trying to wind up the atheist – boo hoo, oh sorry, you ignorance does not wash.
No, I'm not lying. I own slaves. I make them pick cotton on my plantation.

Did you really just ask me that??

o.O
However you justify it stolen, hyjacked, commandeered, seized, obtains by fraud, whatever, it makes no difference that you are an accessory to that theft and you rejoice in that theft. You even use it to mask an ignorance, or do you actually know when the object of your worship was born?


HAHA! I'm an accessory to theft?

Ok, Chris. Ok.

Lock me up.
Yes the real story as opposed to the christian myth that is agreed to be myth even my most christians. So what do you think the story should be? Come on this I would love to hear.
To what myth are you referring?

RiversideRedneck

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#194275 Dec 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I see the homophobia right here on this thread. It is not limited to Christians carrying signs.
I know, it was an example of ignorance.

I thought you wudda picked up on that.

RiversideRedneck

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#194276 Dec 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
Yes I thought so, so hypocritical, you condemn gays yet you are a closet gay yourself.
You are excelling yourself in facts over the last few minutes,
It isn't gay to pleasure yourself.

E=MC2 says so.

“"None shall pass"”

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There

#194277 Dec 20, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Is the term "army of God" new to you, schnoogly?
Who do you think your fooling with a sockpuppet, RR ?

RiversideRedneck

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#194278 Dec 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
The message comes from the church, and its interpretation of scripture, not mine. I cannot tell you which scriptures it is leaning on for that, or how it comes to the conclusion that it must demonize gays
I also cannot tell you why it is more hostile to gays than to adulterers, for example, specially given that one of the Ten Commandments mentions adulterers, but not gays, so, it appears that it doesn't require a sound scriptural basis for any of its teaching. Where does the bible say that it contains no errors, or that it is only inspired by a god rather than the precise words of one?
But neither of us is a bible scholar, so perhaps we shouldn't be discussing what the bible means anyway. Your rule - unless you meant that to apply only to me.
Let's keep this simple and cut to the chase.

What is the homophobic Christian message you're talking about?

And what churches preach it?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#194279 Dec 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I did not say I object to you copy and pasting, I said you copy and pasted Scripture you don't understand......
How dare you accuse IANS of being a Christian!

RiversideRedneck

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#194280 Dec 20, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I think that depriving people of happiness at no cost to yourself isn't just selfish - not if you don't benefit. Christians want to punish gays for defying their god, because that's what they believe that their god does. Ill will for others is malice to me.

RiversideRedneck wrote:
What Christians?!? Who?! What percentage?! What denominations?! You anti-Christian bigot.
>:)
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I think we've exhausted this topic.
No, we haven't. You avoid the question like it's the plague.

You're only answer is some elusive message that Christian doctrine teaches.

You don't answer it.

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