Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#188944 Dec 1, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Sorry, I should have guessed that there'd be magic in it somewhere.
Ah well, each to their own.
In the meantime, here's some Humble Pie from 1973 getting right in our faces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =trfE9py5pzMXX
Ps: Please don't read anything into the name of the band - I chose it because it's great music.
Your concession is noted and accepted.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188945 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then there's no way to prove the age of the universe.
No one was there to document the data.
Now what ever will we do?
Your answer is 13.8 billion years old, we know based on the information below.

An alternative approach to estimating is the age of the universe is to measure the “Hubble constant”. The Hubble constant is a measure of the current expansion rate of the universe. Cosmologists use this measurement to extrapolate back to the Big Bang

RiversideRedneck

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#188946 Dec 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>you're a liar, you assembled existing material is such a way as to make cinnamon rolls, you didn't create anything. FAILED!!!!!!!!!
Just like the guys "creating" DNA...

Imagine that.

RiversideRedneck

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#188947 Dec 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Venter, his personnel, and his equipment - exactly what you might suspect.
I might not expect that RR, his family or his stove did the rising of the bread.

It did that all it's own.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188948 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean those dinosaurs that didn't have DNA?
Or the regular dinosaurs that had DNA?
It was the dinosaurs that no one knew had dna prior to 1869, so glad I could clear up your confusion!!! I seem to do that a lot, I should start charging you!!!!

RiversideRedneck

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#188949 Dec 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you are unclear on what "creating" means.
Alright.

Let's get into a three day battle over the definition of create.

Or we can just refer to the dictionary...

create;
to make or produce (something): to cause (something new) to exist

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#188950 Dec 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your answer is 13.8 billion years old, we know based on the information below.
An alternative approach to estimating is the age of the universe is to measure the “Hubble constant”. The Hubble constant is a measure of the current expansion rate of the universe. Cosmologists use this measurement to extrapolate back to the Big Bang
Correct.

And scientists use extrapolations and experiments to say that DNA existed long before it was discovered.

I think you're actually starting to learn.

Since: May 10

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#188951 Dec 1, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>

Our question is, "Is there a kitten in the box?"
"Is there a kitten in the box?"

Box on table.

Lift lid, see no kitten.

Snide's claim: This is an example of the absence of evidence being evidence of absence.

Buck's claim: No, it is not.

Lifting lid and observing no kitten in box is evidence.

It is evidence pertaining to the question "Is there a kitten in the box?"

It is pertinent evidence because it is an addition to the available body of information on the question of whether there is a kitten in the box.

Therefore, the premise "absence of evidence" is nullified.

++++++++++

I can't make it any simpler for you, little feller.

Learn it, or live stupid.

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#188952 Dec 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>It was the dinosaurs that no one knew had dna prior to 1869, so glad I could clear up your confusion!!! I seem to do that a lot, I should start charging you!!!!
According to you, there was no DNA prior to 1869.

According to research, the dinosaurs lived prior to 1869.

Utilizing your version of logic, the dinosaurs had no DNA.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188953 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's 90% with chimps.
And 88% with mice.
And 84% with dogs.
Maybe that's where your frustration comes from.
But of course that was only when genetics was discovered.
Before that it didn't exist, right?
Time to upgrade your faulty source, are you using the bible? LOL The source below is from the American Museum of Natural History

'The chimpanzee and another ape, the bonobo, are humans' closest living relatives. These three species look alike in many ways, both in body and behavior. But for a clear understanding of how closely they are related, scientists compare their DNA, an essential molecule that's the instruction manual for building each species. Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA'"

FAILED........over and over again!!!!!!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#188954 Dec 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Not quite, but it can put the quietus on things in a hurry.
I almost lost my head with one, though. Had a Ruger Blackhawk in it, and got a wild hair and a Lee Loader, coupled with iggorance. This was long before I got into handloading seriously. Used a scale at my father-in-law's house, not really knowing what I was doing, or it was the kid's playing with it while running around and me chasing them, but I managed to stuff a double load of Hercules powder in the case. I just did the one. Took it out the back door and popped it off. Except it wasn't a pop. It was an extremely loud boom. Blew the cylinder, on a Ruger, apart, and the top strap. It was a bomb. If I had done a hip shot I would have been in pieces.
Was a stupefying moment, a loud boom and looking at a wrecked gun, in a serious way, in your hands. Ears rang for months.
If you wish to hot load a 45 Long Colt, don't do it with a S&W 25-5. They aren't beefed up like the Rugers. Great pin guns, though.
Good Gravy, you blew up a Ruger? A BLACKHAWK?

That takes erious effort.

Lucky you didn't lose a hand, or an eye, or both.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188955 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok.
Then before humans and choking experiments, oxygen didn't exist.
Right?
Actually playing stupid seems to come very naturally for you. As far as humans and their knowledge of oxygen, it didn't exist, they may well have had a word that defined air, but the actual knowledge of what oxygen was made of, and how it interacted with other things was completely unknown to them, as FAR AS THEY WERE CONCERNED oxygen did exist. Now come back with more playing stupid, it really does suit you.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#188956 Dec 1, 2013
This is the ONLY example of that I'd known of.

https://www.google.com/search...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#188957 Dec 1, 2013
So close and yet so far.

Chimps can’t design and build cars.

Or motorcycles.

Or computers.

Or ipods.

Or Ipads.

Or cell phones.

Or appliances.

Or brick homes.

Or nuclear reactors.

Or airplanes.

Or aircraft carriers.

Or ships.

Or…………………………

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#188958 Dec 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Time to upgrade your faulty source, are you using the bible? LOL The source below is from the American Museum of Natural History
'The chimpanzee and another ape, the bonobo, are humans' closest living relatives. These three species look alike in many ways, both in body and behavior. But for a clear understanding of how closely they are related, scientists compare their DNA, an essential molecule that's the instruction manual for building each species. Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA'"
FAILED........over and over again!!!!!!
Hey, don't blame me.

I had a different science decoder ring than you, National Geographic.

They say chimps share 90% DNA with humans.

ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/125-explor... ;

After 1869, of course.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188959 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Negative. Being all-powerful doesn't mean you have the ability to do the logically impossible.
For example; making a spherical triangle.
So you have a God who is NOT omnipotent, he has limits on what he can do correct? How do you account for a God that has limits creating something as complex as the universe? What other limits does this God have? You must know as you have information that shows him to have definite limits. You have just given everyone with reason and logic more reason to doubt this God thing is capable of anything. You worship a flawed being, a being who is NOT all powerful.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188961 Dec 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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According to you, there was no DNA prior to 1869.
According to research, the dinosaurs lived prior to 1869.
Utilizing your version of logic, the dinosaurs had no DNA.
Try this on for size, since the child in you needs special education........special ed, just for you.......There was NO KNOWLEDGE of DNA prior to 1869, so therefore AS FAR AS ANYONE KNEW DNA did not exist. Special Ed class over for the day!!!!
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188962 Dec 1, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
So close and yet so far.
Chimps can’t design and build cars.
Or motorcycles.
Or computers.
Or ipods.
Or Ipads.
Or cell phones.
Or appliances.
Or brick homes.
Or nuclear reactors.
Or airplanes.
Or aircraft carriers.
Or ships.
Or…………………………
And your God can't build a human, a planet, a Star, a universe, or any of the things you have listed, your point?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#188963 Dec 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Venter, his personnel, and his equipment - exactly what you might suspect.
Cute.

The original organic life. What synthesized that?

Venter didn't create synthetic life. He replaced parts in existing life.

IANS, you should realize that that whole process is way too complicated for it to arise from chance.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#188964 Dec 1, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
This is the ONLY example of that I'd known of.
https://www.google.com/search...
This one with the broken topstrap and missing half a cylinder is what mine looked like. Double load, too. Seem to remember about 26 grains of Unique. It was a FULL case, as in packed a bit, That was almost 40 years ago. I'm surprised I survived my younger days.

http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/data/500...

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