Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

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#184561 Nov 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Then dreams do not exist, by your own definition.
Which is what I said already.
I know you said it already.

But you're wrong then and you're wrong now.

Dreams are very real.

They exist.

Without evidence.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184562 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
A dream is a thought, image or sensation occurring in your mind.
Are you implying that thoughts, images or sensations are not "things"?
Are you attempting to redefine yet another word?
They are not.

To qualify as a thing, it must have real existence.

For example: your god is not real, because it has no real-world existence, and cannot actually affect the real world.

Proof, you ask?

Easy: I'm still here, and have not been struck dead.

Your bible specifically outlines the conditions wherein a person **must** be struck dead by your monster-god.

I have fulfilled those conditions many, many times-- but I'm not dead.

... proof your god cannot affect reality.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#184563 Nov 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Well... IANS has recommended you quite highly.
And since I respect the sh7t outta IANS?
Then... sure, why not?
I will try to read your stuff between the lines (as you say) instead of presuming you ought to be lumped with the likes of the god-robots.
:D
But only because IANS vouches for you (and, well, because of your last several, intelligent (and funny) posts too...)
.. you're gonna fall in love with me ..

.. it's inevitable ..

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#184564 Nov 15, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. how many times do I have to tell you that control is an illusion ??..
.. naughty, naughty boy ..
No wait, that's not what I meant...

Come baaaa-aaaack!!

Damn you.

Grrr.

Scared?

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#184565 Nov 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course.
And Dave is even more OCD-- I proved it just today.
I blasted a post of his-- just as an experiment.
And? Viola! Results! I got about 8 of mine blasted in return -- 12 times by the same ISP.
It was hilarious.
He's so easy to manipulate, it ought to be a crime.
<laughing my azz off>
.. send Dave a nude photo ..

.. he'll be nice to you ..

Since: May 10

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#184566 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Neat.
So you easily believe that Plato existed but not Jesus.
Even though there's more evidence of Jesus than Plato.
Sounds kinda biased.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/did-...


From an eminent scholar and NON-CHRISTIAN:

(Sorry, I did not clear with IAnus whether I could use the term "non-christian" for someone who is not a christian. He may have a totally different definition...)

"In "Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth," Ehrman soundly refutes the arguments -- sometimes made by atheists, agnostics and humanists -- that early storytellers invented Jesus."

As Christians prepare to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus, Ehrman, an agnostic, convincingly demonstrates in clear, forceful prose that there was a historical Jesus, a Jewish teacher of the first century who was crucified by Pontius Pilate. As for the so-called "mythicists" who argue otherwise, Ehrman has some choice words: "sensationalist," "wrongheaded," and "amateurish."

"They're driven by an ideological agenda, which is, they find organized religion to be dangerous and harmful and the chief organized religion in their environment is Christianity," Ehrman said in an interview.

The fact that Ehrman is siding with Christians on the historical truth of Jesus does not indicate a change of heart, much less a conversion. Instead, he said, it's an attempt to say, "history matters."

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184567 Nov 15, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
They can't honestly Comprehend the Christian God, therefore why or even how could they move on to other Gods.
I already addressed this earlier.

But since you are so incredibly dense?

I'll repeat it-- the majority of god-robots on Topix, in the atheism threads, are of the Genuine Christhole™ variety (you, included-- in spite of your protesting lies).

Thus, there is little point in arguing Zeus or Thor or Quetzequatle.

More to the point?

The majority of atheists herein, were once Genuine Christians™, before becoming atheists.

So you are dead-wrong: we **do** understand the ugly christian monster-god.

We understand it **too** well-- that is part of why we **are** atheists.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184568 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why I come here, to learn from a high-class intellectual like you.
Teach me history.
I wanna do history.
No.

You already demonstrated you are completely incapable of learning.

It would be a waste of time, trying to teach you anything.

Since: May 10

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#184569 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>

What kind of people would we be if God did everything for us?
Democrats?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184570 Nov 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Thanks for the negative Jugits, Dave.

It is so cute, that you care so deeply like this.

Obviously, I **got** to you-- a lot.

Thank you!

I did not know you cared.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#184571 Nov 15, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/did-...
From an eminent scholar and NON-CHRISTIAN:
(Sorry, I did not clear with IAnus whether I could use the term "non-christian" for someone who is not a christian. He may have a totally different definition...)
"In "Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth," Ehrman soundly refutes the arguments -- sometimes made by atheists, agnostics and humanists -- that early storytellers invented Jesus."
As Christians prepare to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus, Ehrman, an agnostic, convincingly demonstrates in clear, forceful prose that there was a historical Jesus, a Jewish teacher of the first century who was crucified by Pontius Pilate. As for the so-called "mythicists" who argue otherwise, Ehrman has some choice words: "sensationalist," "wrongheaded," and "amateurish."
"They're driven by an ideological agenda, which is, they find organized religion to be dangerous and harmful and the chief organized religion in their environment is Christianity," Ehrman said in an interview.
The fact that Ehrman is siding with Christians on the historical truth of Jesus does not indicate a change of heart, much less a conversion. Instead, he said, it's an attempt to say, "history matters."
Nice. But you really shudda got IANS' permission first.

He might "pop a comment in yo azz", all gangsta style....

"Most modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, given but scholars differ on the historicity of specific episodes described in the Biblical accounts of Jesus, and the only two events subject to "almost universal assent" are that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate."

"Biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#184572 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
HA HA!!
Despite what the term actually means, it is used by condescending people to describe themselves.
The irony of people who refer to themselves as freethinkers is that even though they believe they formed their opinions solely on reason and science, modern psychology disproves that people are capable of that, their cognitive biases make that impossible.
They would be a lot more believable if they didn't quote others, or use the same terms and formulations in their arguments. It's like they agree with what their teacher said.

None of them are the slightest bit original in their argumentation. They are almost interchangeable.

The theists on here at least show some originality of thought and uniqueness of personality. Real people versus mass media clones.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#184573 Nov 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
You already demonstrated you are completely incapable of learning.
It would be a waste of time, trying to teach you anything.
HFY & HL would disagree with you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184574 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Incorrect.
I claim that God gives us free will, which means I control my own actions.
I control myself.
Then?

Your god cannot possible be all-powerful, and all-knowing.

So you lied about this trait.

Because an all-knowing god? Eliminates all possibility of free will.

And an all-powerful one?

Is even worse-- if god has **all** the power? Then **nobody** else has **any**.

Meaning?

You are so **not** in charge of **anything**.

Which is it?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#184576 Nov 15, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:

Democrats?
LMMFAO!!

The atheists get to redefine shit, why can't we?

Democrat: Those who vote based on irrelevant factors (gender, race, charisma, et cetera).

"As a Democrat, I voted for Barrack, because we need a black man in the White House."

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184577 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Neat.
So you easily believe that Plato existed but not Jesus.
No.

You just don't get it, do you?

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING-- belief, without FACTS, is insane.

I admit the possibility that Plato likely existed as a person.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS BELIEF--(which is insane)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Even though there's more evidence of Jesus than Plato.
Sounds kinda biased.
Nope.

There is NO evidence for a historical Jesus that is not compromised or contaminated by True Believers™.

None.

Absolutely zip, nada, zero, not a single word.

But.

Plato has many documents written by his own hand.

Where are the documents written by your Jewsus?

Hmmm?

Or was your Jewsus ... illiterate?

It appears he was!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184578 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You're being too vague.
What taxes support Christianity?
Specifically.
The fact that christian "churches" are tax exempt, means that taxes they **should** be paying, to support their business of entertainment, is not being paid.

Which means, there is a tax shortfall-- that has to be made up by everyone else.

These leeches enjoy tax-supported amenities, such as roads, police protection, fire protection, etc.

But they give **nothing** in return.

The worst?

They can not prove that the promises they claim are real-- meaning they are all **empty** promises.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#184579 Nov 15, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. send Dave a nude photo ..
.. he'll be nice to you ..
Poor baby. You have some inhibitions that your online persona can't hide.

OK, send me a picture of the bottom of your bare foot with Hi Dave, it's HL! written in lipstick on it.

A picture is worth a thousand words. More, actually.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#184580 Nov 15, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
They would be a lot more believable if they didn't quote others, or use the same terms and formulations in their arguments. It's like they agree with what their teacher said.
None of them are the slightest bit original in their argumentation. They are almost interchangeable.
The theists on here at least show some originality of thought and uniqueness of personality. Real people versus mass media clones.
Good point.

The freethinkers don't like that we are open-minded, notice how frequently they talk about the "40,000 sects" in Christianity.

Or when two Christians debate the Bible, they call it a theist decoder ring battle.

Derps.

They should be proud of us, because we're the real freethinkers, the real open-minded skeptics.

These Topix atheists are prime examples of humans too close to "wash, rinse, repeat".

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#184581 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me about it.
Remember when we did that thing at the place?
I couldn't get the floors clean for months.
Next time - your place.
.. I'm sorry I forgot the key to the handcuffs ..

.. how did you escape ??..

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