Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#184406 Nov 15, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. yes, words are important ..
.. if you say someone is dead, it can have a myriad of meanings. They may be physically, spiritually or intellectually dead ..
.. in America, an atheist may be described as someone who rejects the Abrahamic God ..
.. why is your interpretation of any word the correct one? I do not understand the logic. What does it accomplish ??..
Proof?

You can taunt Buck-- by voting his posts down with jugicons.

Within hours, they will be reversed by the Buckster-- he cannot **stand** it when he gets voted down.

It's most amusing to watch this game.

I can only imagine him frothing at the mouth as he frantically reverses the negative jugicons...

LOL!

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#184407 Nov 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Why is secular government better than theocracy?
That's easy.

In a purely **secular** government? You can **change** parts of it-- you can even change the basic, fundamental founding documents, if you like or need to.

But with a theocracy? Not only can you **not** change anything about it? You will be **killed** if you even try.

As such, when technology comes up with **new** ideas?

**Secular** governments can change to keep up.

Theocracies? Fall by the wayside-- as the new technology destroys them, sometimes piecemeal, sometimes dramatically--all at once.
Thinking

UK

#184408 Nov 15, 2013
No avoiding here.

I said [whatever happiness was] not nearly good enough.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You avoided the question.
Coward.

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#184409 Nov 15, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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That does not change the fact that you make the same tactics and arguments that you accuse them of using.
By expressing beliefs?

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#184410 Nov 15, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Talking about left and right hand rotation, I believe that the only difference between the orange and the lemon smell is the of rotation of the dna molecules
Last night I watched Brian Cox on TV giving a lecture at the RI. The title was the science of Doctor Who. Although he concentrated mostly on the ideas of time travel, the last few minutes were on the possibilities of aliens. If you can get it in the US it’s worth watching
I'll see if it's available on-line, then-- I do not have the BBC America channel any more.

A number of years back? Some scientists had figured out how to make sugar molecules with the reversed spiral rotation-- as such, they still "locked" into our sweet tastebuds (and tasted sweet). And they would cook exactly as you'd expect sugar to cook-- it's still sugar, just reversed.

But the enzymes we use to process the sugar could not unlock them down to the basic building blocks (glucose) and as such, they simply passed through our systems, unutilized.

A perfect no-calorie sweetener. Alas, it proved too costly to make, so it's still not on the market.

Those pesky enzymes again-- all the current sugars are essentially made by enzymatic action in plants.

:)

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#184411 Nov 15, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Also on the Brian Cox lecture was a few details of the keplar mission
Interesting idea, that: "faster, cheaper, better".

Two out of three ain't bad, though?

And, in spite of it's failures, it appears to have collected an incredible volume of usable data.

It'll take years to analyze it all.

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#184412 Nov 15, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Your response is text book of why I would never vote for an atheist running for public office. Having to justify your beliefs is having to justify your thoughts.
If you keep those hideously ugly thoughts to yourself?

There would be no need to "justify" them, would there?

I mean-- you could easily be a secret pedophile/closeted serial killer-- and so long as you kept all those illicit thoughts to yourself?

Nobody would care, and you could live out your lie in comfort.

(and that's all I read of your ugly hate-post-- your snap-judgement is not worthy of further study)

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#184413 Nov 15, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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For over 5,000 years there has been a lot of evidence that we do have souls.
Silly!

Feeeeeelllliiiiings do not evidence make.

This is why science discounts feelings, when gathering **facts**.

The entire sum of your "evidence" is bogus, and can be dismissed as such.
LCNLin

United States

#184414 Nov 15, 2013
Pot calling Kettle Black ;-)

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#184415 Nov 15, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No avoiding here.
I said [whatever happiness was] not nearly good enough.
<quoted text>
You're still avoiding.

Do you believe that God creates happiness?

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#184416 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So you deny the existence of any gods while simultaneously believe that gods may exist.How's that working out for ya?
Nope. You demonstrate once again, you have severe cognitive dissonance.

Once again: I have **no** belief/faith that gods exist. Atheist.

This is not an active thing-- it is a **lack** of a thing (I lack faith).

It is akin to me,**not** having a social disease (faith).

I also understand that it is impossible to know the entire scope of the universe-- thus, I cannot **know** that there are no godlike beings somewhere or other: agnostic.

Thus? I am an atheist-agnostic.

But back to you: you also demonstrate a severe lack of a working brain.

How's that working out for ya?

Oh! Right... your group **lost** the last election....!

LMAO!

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184417 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I call bullshit.
Providing evidence that a person is at a particular location is incomparable to providing evidence for God.
Exactly!

Because proving a person exists at a given location is actually possible-- lots and lots of tools make it possible, GPS, maps, google maps, etc.

Proving a non-existent, fantasy-delusion (god) is real?

Would require a machine that could examine a person's **imagination**.

Because we all know (yes-- even YOU know--but are afraid to admit) that **your** god is **not** real.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#184418 Nov 15, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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If you keep those hideously ugly thoughts to yourself?
There would be no need to "justify" them, would there?
I mean-- you could easily be a secret pedophile/closeted serial killer-- and so long as you kept all those illicit thoughts to yourself?
Nobody would care, and you could live out your lie in comfort.
(and that's all I read of your ugly hate-post-- your snap-judgement is not worthy of further study)
“I mean-- you could easily be a secret pedophile/closeted serial killer-- and so long as you kept all those illicit thoughts to yourself?”

Could we be seeing a display of “Projection.” That which is locked away in the secret vault of your heart leaching out?

Surely not, an upstanding citizen like yourself who is so full of peace and love couldn’t do such a thing. Could he?

But we all must remember false accusations have caused much harm to the innocent. And in our society today there are false accusers along with the guilty of crimes.

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#184419 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who says it is?
Because with a theocracy? Not only are we not allowed to change **anything** about such an evil institution?

WE WOULD BE MURDERED FOR EVEN ASKING ABOUT CHANGE.

But with a **secular** government?

Changes are possible-- even changes to the **fundamental** documents, if needed.

That is why theocracies NEVER LAST--they ALWAYS fall.

Because life is always changing.

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#184420 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Do you believe God causes the suffering?
If your god is **in charge** as you people claim?

Then absolutely!

If your god is NOT in charge?

Then?

Your god isn't really a god, is it?

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184421 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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And yet you & I believe in Jesus...
Go figure.
I do not-- I do not even accept the silly idea that there was a **historical** jesus.

There just is no facts to show that could be true.

As in none at all.

Which utterly **destroys** your claim that he was a **god**.

For a **god** would **know** that proof of his existence would someday be **really** important.

And would have taken steps to ensure his words were **exactly** preserved, word-for-exact-word.

This did not happen.

Proving to 100%, that your jesus was not a god at all-- if he even ever existed as a man!(highly unlikely)

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#184422 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Atheists spend an inordinate amount of time arguing a "non-belief" they all claim to share.
I find it very odd.
It's only because you hate-theists keep passing your hideous and bigoted religion into **law**.

**Forcing** people to comply with your ugly bigotry.

And the final insult?

Your ugly superstitions are SUPPORTED BY TAXES.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184423 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Aw, are we infringing on your God given rights?
Nope. You **are** infringing on our **constitution** guaranteed rights!

That would be the one guaranteeing freedom of religion.

A right I cannot enjoy, so long as my TAXES support your ugly.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184424 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why don't you just put your mom's balls on and ask me the question?
Who Would Jesus Insult?

I bet **you** know-- don't you?

Because the bible is so full of Jesus slinging INSULTS onto his detractors... right?

Right.

Very Jesus of you, here.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#184425 Nov 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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God didn't create Satan any more than He created Hitler or Dahmer. Satan chose his own path and God chose not to interfere.
Then who did create satan?

It sounds like your satan is **more** powerful than your god!

Obviously, this is the case-- as satan was able to GO AGAINST YOUR GOD'S DESIRES!

Wow!

Satan is the #1 god in your silly pantheon!

You silly person-- you really don't get consequences, do you?

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