Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle 12

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<quoted text>You really are thick,In the spring, the pre-migratory state is characterized by a change in neural centers in the lower part of the brain controlling hunger so that the bird gains weight by overeating.
This increased energy income, as much as 40% more than during other times of the year, is stored as large fat deposits under the skin, in flight muscles, and in the abdominal cavity.The pre-migratory state is also characterized by increased activity during the night, which is when most birds migrate. They become restless, perhaps in anticipation of the migratory flight. This behavior is seldom observed in the wild, but has been carefully evaluated in captive migrants.
The adaptation of migrants to the day length is amazing. Consider the trans-equatorial migrant Bobolink. This species initiates pre-migratory preparation under decreasing day lengths in the southern hemisphere, migrates northward toward the equator, experiencing lengthening day lengths, then crosses the equator and experiences rapidly increasing day length until it finally arrives on its previous year's territory.
That birds, many plants, and other animals depend upon day length to regulate their annual cycles is not surprising. Of all the variables in the environment, only seasonal day length variation has remained constant since the formation of the planet because of the Earth's rotation around the Sun.
Birds have also evolved by responding to other stimulus, such as temperature. Thus, when spring is late birds do not arrive too early; similarly, when spring is advanced the birds arrive early to take advantage of the abundant environmental resources.
Non-migratory predators such as the Great-horned owl breed late in the Canadian winter, so that their chicks are old enough to hunt the newly returning birds and their young.The change in the magnetic poles, in seasonal change also help in the guidance of the birds.
Cut and paste but no references. That is called plagiarism.

In all that response only the last sentence deals with navigation. Scientist have theories but no solid proof how birds do it. Before you try to educate someone do your homework first.

About 50 animal species, ranging from birds and mammals to reptiles and insects, use Earth's magnetic field for navigation.

Yet Earth's magnetic field is very week. It ranges from approximately 30 to 60 millionths of one tesla. By comparison, magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, uses magnetic fields from 1.5 to 3.0 tesla.

So scientists unsure exactly how birds do it.

http://www.livescience.com/32276-how-do-birds...
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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You didn't anwser the question. But I'm not surprised.
but I did!!
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Anyone that enters heaven knowing that hell exists is a cu*t.
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Anyone who enters hell and had the chance to go to heaven. Has royal f*cked themselves over for eternity. Sorry, I won’t be sending any postcards from heaven.
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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> It's no real surprise that most creation believers are nearly illiterate, and definitely scientifically illiterate.
[laughing]
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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I can tell you this they don't use satellite tracking. They don’t carry a magnetic ship compass.
There internal navigation system is superior than anything man has created. Which leads me to believe they were purposely designed that way. And please spare me the song and dance that evolution did it.
Evolution DID do it, sorry you can't understand basic biology.
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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I sure wish you would go with us Doctor. We're going to have a great time. We can ride our Harleys down main street in heaven.
Yes, I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time for the first 100 years or so, though your ass is going to be might sore after riding all that time, let me know what the next hundred years brings and the thousand years after that and then of course you have the first of many millions of years to contend with. I would just love to be a fly on the wall and see how your doing after your first million years. You will soon realize that this IS the hell you were so terrified of.
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blacklagoon wrote:
A human from a pile of dirt, a talking snake, and magic fruit tree, a god who murders innocent little babies, fully supports slavery, rape and genocide, a 400 foot wooden boat with every animals species on the planet adrift for a whole year, people thriving in the corrosive gastric juices of a whale for a number of days, zombie rising from the grave and strolling around town, the magical insemination of a young women who spoke NOT a word about the incident, reveling in the symbolic act of cannibalism (drinking blood and eating flesh) Am I the only one who see's these beliefs a being batshitcrazy?
Where was there a talking snake? Could you refer to the scripture please. What happens to the human body when it decomposes completely after death? What's left behind? These minerals left behind from complete decomposition are they found in the earth?
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Atheism 101:
“When responding to believers, always try to make them look uneducated. At the same time let them assume you are in the upper echelon of knowledge.”
Christianity, Dealing with Atheist 101.
Atheist are narcissistic and will always reach into their bag of prepackaged responses. One of their favorites is,“You need to get an education.” Just remember the source from which it comes from, an egotist, self-absorbed, self centered, conceited, underachiever, anti-socialist, selfish and vain individual.
The simple fact, Eagle, is that I AM more educated than you, especially in the sciences, and that DOES put me in the upper echelon of knowledge. So bragging, just a fact.
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Even better, why don't you tell us how the bird does that? Please, if you have any sanity all, do not say that God directs the bird.
Better yet you know how a bird see's the earth?

The same way you see a toilet, lol.

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Chaumette wrote:
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Maybe you weren't close enough. Try getting closer next time, and get back with us, if you can.
I suspect very strongly that I will be closer than that within the next 15 to 25 years, if I am fortunately enough to live that long, and I doubt very much I will be reporting back.:)
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Christianity is blamed for all the evils in the world. While all the good such as helping the homeless, feeding the hungry, building and supporting schools, hospitals, medicine, fresh water, first aid, shelters, medical research, grief support, elderly support, drug interdiction, drug and alcohol rehab, clothing the disadvantaged, shoes for the needy, school supplies for poor children,…………….
If charities depended upon Atheist. There would be no charities.
For the Atheist motto: Me, myself, and I.
You're lying again Eagle, I posted a number of Atheist organization that do charity work, I'll do it again of I must just to show what a bold faced liar you are.

So are you saying that all those Christians that do charity work would NOT do the same if they were NOT Christians? Kindness to others does NOT require religion, only kindness. You just love to lie don't you!!!!
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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[laughing]
You laugh at being illiterate? How pitiful can you get. Have you NO shame?

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Cut and paste but no references. That is called plagiarism.
In all that response only the last sentence deals with navigation. Scientist have theories but no solid proof how birds do it. Before you try to educate someone do your homework first.
About 50 animal species, ranging from birds and mammals to reptiles and insects, use Earth's magnetic field for navigation.
Yet Earth's magnetic field is very week. It ranges from approximately 30 to 60 millionths of one tesla. By comparison, magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI, uses magnetic fields from 1.5 to 3.0 tesla.
So scientists unsure exactly how birds do it.
http://www.livescience.com/32276-how-do-birds...
You answered your own question,lol. Your content to use science when its convenient, yet turn to god when it doesn't have all the answers.There is still plenty we do not understand,
www.simplywildcanada.com/How_Do_Birds_Know.ht... , is the link your looking for., no plagiarism required, it answers the question based on what we do know.

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I asked you before what was going through your head during those events. I didn't see an answer.
Now, you and mac have said you didn't have any hallucinations. Neither of you have indicated them being nothing more than close calls, Now, did you think you were going to die? Was there a fear of it? Was your fully functioning consciousness trying to figure how to get out of the situations, or were you just observing what was transpiring?
I did a very long reply to your comment, and posted it a few minutes ago, but it appears to have been lost. If it doesn't appear, know that at least I did try to respond. Because of the length of it, I do not want to have to retype the whole thing, other than I had no memory of anything while unconscious during either of my drowning experiences, which would have been perhaps 10 minutes tops, the first time, and perhaps 15 or 20, the second, but I was receiving oxygen during most of that time, because otherwise I would not be here typing today. Rescuers applied mouth to mouth resuscitation both times, as soon as they got to me, so I was told.

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<quoted text>I have no faith, stupid of you to infer that I do!!! Faith is strictly a religious word.
There is no question that you do.

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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I was hoping you would tell me that you died for several days and dug yourself out of a grave. And that’s how you know there’s no life after death.
You’re like me, you have never died, yet. That means you are just making an assumption. That assumption is not based on a real death experience.
Dave Nelson is going to be mad at you for saying that.

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And THIS is what Theists build their lives and those in their families around:
THE BIBLE: Back when the bible was written, then edited, then rewritten, then rewritten, then re-edited, then translated from dead languages, then rewritten, then edited, then rewritten, then given to Kings for them to take their favorite parts, the rewritten, then translated again and given to the pope for him to approve, then rewritten, then re-edited again, then re re re re re rewritten again, all based on stories that were told ORALLY 30-90 years AFTER they happened to people who didn't know how to write..so........!! pitiful!!!!!!
Kind of does stretch the imagination, doesn't it, and we know that even one person witnessing an event will tell it differently, in most cases, each time he tells it, and if passed from person to person the story may get to the final person with no details at all matching what was first told. That is human nature. That very detailed conversations, and eye witnessed events could be passed from person to person over many decades, and have any semblance of what the first person said, is likely impossible for human beings, except for the very few people who have the mental problem of total recall, which certainly would not be the case of people in a small area over many decades. Even today with video and audio coverage of events, what actually occurred is not always what it appears to be. They had no such devices back in those days.

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You are in full projection mode. That means you don't "see" a damned thing, just your own thoughts blurting out into the void. You aren't looking at the light of your projections bouncing back to you.
Do you have **any** facts?

No?

Do you have **any**...**proof?**?

Still no?

Interesting.

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I did a very long reply to your comment, and posted it a few minutes ago, but it appears to have been lost. If it doesn't appear, know that at least I did try to respond. Because of the length of it, I do not want to have to retype the whole thing, other than I had no memory of anything while unconscious during either of my drowning experiences, which would have been perhaps 10 minutes tops, the first time, and perhaps 15 or 20, the second, but I was receiving oxygen during most of that time, because otherwise I would not be here typing today. Rescuers applied mouth to mouth resuscitation both times, as soon as they got to me, so I was told.
So your consciousness was totally blacked out? Zero, zilch?

What about the realization you were drowning before such happened?

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