Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Why is acting and behaving like a christian stupid?
You posted the statement, I posted my statement, I backed up my statement with fact. You are welcome to try ridiculing those facts all you want, it will make no difference to the facts
Nope I provide facts because they are facts, the fact that it upsets some ignorant funnymentalist truth denier is just a bonus.
Nope you just think you are smarter, itís self delusion, the facts (thatís FACTS) are self explanatory.
Oh my dear delusional moron, do you actually think that because we donít agree than I am bigoted? Go figureÖ
Honey, we have had this discussion before and we (well certainly me) came to the conclusion that it is not up to you to determine anyone religiosity but your own.
Your stupidity is not in your facts; it is in your claim that the facts lead to your conclusion.

If I say Barack Obama has large ears and elephants have large ears, I have stated facts.

If I stated, then, that Barack Obama is an elephant, I would be stupid.

Now you are not only stupid, but you now know why you are stupid.

You don't have to thank me.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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That's what I asked, is he, to you, universally irrelevant.
He cannot be universally irrelevant TO YOU, since you have commented on him repeatedly.
Are your own comments also irrelevant TO YOU?
Tell me somethng, Phillistine. My mother is not on the role of the Catholic Church.
According to your determinants, she is not a Christian.
She claims she is.
Now, do I have to tell her she is not?
I never said he was universally irrelevant, that was you. What you are doing is the usual buck and trying to pick a fight when you have nothing to need to make BS up so satisfy your ego.

I never mentioned your mother, again it was you and you are welcome to tell her what the hell you like but here is a little clue, Hitler said he was christian and the catholic church says he was christian. So you mother not being on the role is irrelevant to that fact.

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6 and 1 are interchangeable in some of those number worshipping cults when dealing with a progression.
Yes - and?

Is that the only excuse you can come up with?

6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Your stupidity is not in your facts; it is in your claim that the facts lead to your conclusion.
If I say Barack Obama has large ears and elephants have large ears, I have stated facts.
If I stated, then, that Barack Obama is an elephant, I would be stupid.
Now you are not only stupid, but you now know why you are stupid.
You don't have to thank me.
Not my conclusion, the vaticans conclusion and the conclusion of anyone who has studied the facts.

Emotional tantrums have nothing to do with the fact that Hitler was christian

As I said in my previous post to you, you can say what the hell you like.

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The real purpose of HAARP is an attempt to bring Godzilla back to life after scientists discovered his remains in a block of sea ice. I know this because a very respected Alaskan scientist managed to send me pictures showing the military lowering him into a special bunker, the real site you referred to. My information is sketchy, since my contact is in constant fear of his safety, but he somehow managed to send me a video of a semi-conscious Godzilla shown moving and sporadically bellowing, verifying the strange sounds reported by those close to the sites. I've also heard rumors that Snowden has secret text messages sent from Obama to some of his generals. Here's one example. "As soon as we get this sucker (Zilla) up and running, we're really gonna stick it to 'Ghanistan." Frightening times, indeed...
Look up Eastland's patent that is the basis for HAARP.

You are looking at the egg tooth.

BTW, I'm Godzilla. Never died, just taking a nap. You should quit listening to rumors.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Yes - and?
Is that the only excuse you can come up with?
6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it
You are wrong.
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blacklagoon wrote:
Here's one from daffy dave and feeble eagle, when confronted with the quantity of food available on the ark for all those animals.........."Animals don't need three squares a day, and being at sea can make you sea sick, so you don't eat as much."
So the animals were "sea sick" and didn't eat much, problem solved!!!!!
Feeble eagle goes on to tell about being sea sick on a deep sea fishing trip, they went out 200 miles. Hope it was an overnighter, as it would take approximately 50 plus hour to motor 200 miles. Personally, I think he's full of shit!!!!!
My good Doctor, why are you so angry all the time?

It could take 50 hours to motor 200 miles in the Gulf???

Sure if one travels only 4 mph.

We were going much faster my good Doctor than 4 mph. By the way it was a day trip.

Don't be so angry Doctor. You know I respect and love you.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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And not a moment too soon.
...Wearing those silk bloomers?
No, those are for the pitch.

That's what it's called in some countries.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Yes - and?
Is that the only excuse you can come up with?
6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it
Oh, lovey, this song is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Here is another example of how deeply the religious termites have burrowed, and how poisonous religion can be.
Kentucky.....figures, a high school cross country runner with a chance to win her first state championship withdrew from the race because....are you ready for this shit?.........because she drew the number 666. She was quoted as saying she didn't want to risk her relationship with God by wearing a number associated with the devil.
So God is that childish that he would reject this devoutly religious young girl just because of a number? Really?
"Religion poisons everything." Christopher Hitchens.
But just to jar your memory about numbers.

NASAís Apollo 13 mission launched on April 11,1970 at 13:13 military time.

NASA sort of stuck their thumb into the eye of bad luck myths.

The mission failed but NASA was able to return the crew back safely.

I donít believe in bad luck myths but the story of Apollo 13 makes one ponder.

I do hate the number 666.

Atheism is poison to freedom of thought and expression.

Eagle 12

By the way, I wrote that and I wasnít angry.
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NightSerf wrote:
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Perfect!!!
Hey Nightserf, good to see you back!

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ChristineM wrote:
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Not my conclusion, the vaticans conclusion and the conclusion of anyone who has studied the facts.
Emotional tantrums have nothing to do with the fact that Hitler was christian
As I said in my previous post to you, you can say what the hell you like.
Could you cite the Vatican's conclusion, as you hereby attest to, that Hitler was a Christian?

A link to an official Vatican document, or a public statement by a Vatican official would suffice.

I hope you didn't make it up.

Meanwhile, I have some official Vatican statements for you:

1930- L'Osservatore Romano, which speaks the mind of the Holy Father and Church, runs a series of articles from the office of Cardinal Secretary of State severely criticizing Nazism. The October 11, 1930 article declares: "Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable with the Catholic Conscience."

1934- "The harassment, arrest, and imprisonment of priests and active Catholics increases. The Nazis close some 200 Catholic publications in Germany, take over Church schools, and coerce the young into joining "Hitler Youth."

1935- Lourdes, France, at a Eucharistic Triduum Cardinal Pacelli tells an estimated 325,000 pilgrims, including many Germans, that "the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist in their racial philosophy." He scorns Nazis theories of "race and blood" as superstitious and "contrary to the Christian faith." With such a philosophy, he declares, "the Church does not consent to form a pact at any price."

1937- Cardinal Pacelli drafts the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, issued in March by Pope Pius XI. It condemns Nazi racism and worship of the state in the Church's most authoritative form of teaching. It infuriates the Nazis, who respond with more persecution of Catholics.

1938- In a formal state visit to Italy, Hitler comes to Rome. Pius XI expresses sorrow and outrage at Mussolini's invitation. "To honor a cross [the swastika] which is not Christ's in the Eternal City" the Pope says, is an unhappy sign of Mussolini's "old anticlericalism." He refuses to meet Hitler.

1938-Pius XII orders publication of a large volume (565 pages). The Persecution of the Catholic Church in the Third Reich, in London (by Burns and Oates). It is a translation from the German of eye-witness accounts of the merciless Nazi program to crush the Church

1941 (March)- Vatican radio begins special broadcasts to France and Spain, speaking of "the wickedness of Hitler"

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No, those are for the pitch.
That's what it's called in some countries.
Oh. If I wore those, a long chunk of Buck Member would "pitch" right out through the leg hole.
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River Tam wrote:
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That's where we put the sick people, Eagle.
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See? That's why we put them there. Galveston, you say? Hmmm.
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Free chum.
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You left them there, right?
Out of the 12 of us that went from my group. Only 2 didn't get sick and I was one of those that didn't vomit. But truth be known I was real close, lol.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Could you cite the Vatican's conclusion, as you hereby attest to, that Hitler was a Christian?
A link to an official Vatican document, or a public statement by a Vatican official would suffice.
I hope you didn't make it up.
Meanwhile, I have some official Vatican statements for you:
1930- L'Osservatore Romano, which speaks the mind of the Holy Father and Church, runs a series of articles from the office of Cardinal Secretary of State severely criticizing Nazism. The October 11, 1930 article declares: "Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable with the Catholic Conscience."
1934- "The harassment, arrest, and imprisonment of priests and active Catholics increases. The Nazis close some 200 Catholic publications in Germany, take over Church schools, and coerce the young into joining "Hitler Youth."
1935- Lourdes, France, at a Eucharistic Triduum Cardinal Pacelli tells an estimated 325,000 pilgrims, including many Germans, that "the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist in their racial philosophy." He scorns Nazis theories of "race and blood" as superstitious and "contrary to the Christian faith." With such a philosophy, he declares, "the Church does not consent to form a pact at any price."
1937- Cardinal Pacelli drafts the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, issued in March by Pope Pius XI. It condemns Nazi racism and worship of the state in the Church's most authoritative form of teaching. It infuriates the Nazis, who respond with more persecution of Catholics.
1938- In a formal state visit to Italy, Hitler comes to Rome. Pius XI expresses sorrow and outrage at Mussolini's invitation. "To honor a cross [the swastika] which is not Christ's in the Eternal City" the Pope says, is an unhappy sign of Mussolini's "old anticlericalism." He refuses to meet Hitler.
1938-Pius XII orders publication of a large volume (565 pages). The Persecution of the Catholic Church in the Third Reich, in London (by Burns and Oates). It is a translation from the German of eye-witness accounts of the merciless Nazi program to crush the Church
1941 (March)- Vatican radio begins special broadcasts to France and Spain, speaking of "the wickedness of Hitler"
And yet, Pius II should be considered an aider and abettor.

Actions (and inaction) speak louder than words.
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I_see_you wrote:
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I'm not pissed off all of the time :-)
Perhaps you could help your compadres because they seem pissed off a lot.

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Sorry, Pius XII.

And for those who like country music, that means Pius the 12th.

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And yet, Pius II should be considered an aider and abettor.
Actions (and inaction) speak louder than words.
Then Hitler's persecution, murder, imprisonment, and closing the schools of Christians speak louder than speeches where he donned the mantle of Christianity...

Right?

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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But just to jar your memory about numbers.
NASAís Apollo 13 mission launched on April 11,1970 at 13:13 military time.
NASA sort of stuck their thumb into the eye of bad luck myths.
The mission failed but NASA was able to return the crew back safely.
I donít believe in bad luck myths but the story of Apollo 13 makes one ponder.
I do hate the number 666.
Atheism is poison to freedom of thought and expression.
Eagle 12
By the way, I wrote that and I wasnít angry.
You hate a number?

Seriously, get help...

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Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps you could help your compadres because they seem pissed off a lot.
Unfortunately I cannot control other people's moods...but I try to not make it worse when I'm able :-)

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