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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#182969 Nov 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
Here is another example of how deeply the religious termites have burrowed, and how poisonous religion can be.
Kentucky.....figures, a high school cross country runner with a chance to win her first state championship withdrew from the race because....are you ready for this shit?.........because she drew the number 666. She was quoted as saying she didn't want to risk her relationship with God by wearing a number associated with the devil.
So God is that childish that he would reject this devoutly religious young girl just because of a number? Really?
"Religion poisons everything." Christopher Hitchens.
Funny. The thing is that in the original manuscript the number is 616, the 666 came about when some monk doing a copy thought ď616, hmmm, that donít sound right, perhaps they meant 666.Ē

http://peopleofyahuwah.files.wordpress.com/20...

It throws the spanner into credibility for sure.

Here is another funny (and coincidence) about the number.
In Moscow they has the 666 bus route no one would travel on. The authorities changed the number to , would you believe, 616

Since: Sep 08

Fowler, CO

#182970 Nov 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny. The thing is that in the original manuscript the number is 616, the 666 came about when some monk doing a copy thought ď616, hmmm, that donít sound right, perhaps they meant 666.Ē
http://peopleofyahuwah.files.wordpress.com/20...
It throws the spanner into credibility for sure.
Here is another funny (and coincidence) about the number.
In Moscow they has the 666 bus route no one would travel on. The authorities changed the number to , would you believe, 616
6 and 1 are interchangeable in some of those number worshipping cults when dealing with a progression.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#182971 Nov 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
That is stupid.
You can do all those things, and not be a Christian.
You can be a Christian, and not do many of those things.
So your determinants for being a Christian are contrived.
You contrive them because you want to disparage Christians.
Try to fool others, if you like. I'm smarter than that.
I made no claim that the historians "make" Hitler a Christian.
I proposed that their observation of facts and analysis conclude that he was not a Christian. It's an observation and analysis, not a "making".
You should look into those concepts - observation and analysis.
I should look into the futility of arguing with bigoted idiots like yourself.
Why is acting and behaving like a christian stupid?

You posted the statement, I posted my statement, I backed up my statement with fact. You are welcome to try ridiculing those facts all you want, it will make no difference to the facts

Nope I provide facts because they are facts, the fact that it upsets some ignorant funnymentalist truth denier is just a bonus.

Nope you just think you are smarter, itís self delusion, the facts (thatís FACTS) are self explanatory.

Oh my dear delusional moron, do you actually think that because we donít agree than I am bigoted? Go figureÖ

Honey, we have had this discussion before and we (well certainly me) came to the conclusion that it is not up to you to determine anyone religiosity but your own.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#182972 Nov 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
That is some very scary technology. It is also being employed now by other nations from what I understand. There are supposed to be two programs. That HAARP you see is a front. The real site is located someplace else up there.
The technology heats the ionosphere where they can shape it to send radio signals planet wide. That is what it was originally intended for. It can also burn a hole in the ionsphere letting cosmic rays in. There are rumors they have pushed the envelope a bit to see what it can do. The ionosphere is the shell around this egg we live on. It is the other half of a capacitor the lower atmosphere forms between the ground and it. Events caused there will cause events within the earth. Changes the balance and distribution of charge planetwide.
This is science with a new toy, not religion.
The real purpose of HAARP is an attempt to bring Godzilla back to life after scientists discovered his remains in a block of sea ice. I know this because a very respected Alaskan scientist managed to send me pictures showing the military lowering him into a special bunker, the real site you referred to. My information is sketchy, since my contact is in constant fear of his safety, but he somehow managed to send me a video of a semi-conscious Godzilla shown moving and sporadically bellowing, verifying the strange sounds reported by those close to the sites. I've also heard rumors that Snowden has secret text messages sent from Obama to some of his generals. Here's one example. "As soon as we get this sucker (Zilla) up and running, we're really gonna stick it to 'Ghanistan." Frightening times, indeed...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182973 Nov 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is acting and behaving like a christian stupid?
You posted the statement, I posted my statement, I backed up my statement with fact. You are welcome to try ridiculing those facts all you want, it will make no difference to the facts
Nope I provide facts because they are facts, the fact that it upsets some ignorant funnymentalist truth denier is just a bonus.
Nope you just think you are smarter, itís self delusion, the facts (thatís FACTS) are self explanatory.
Oh my dear delusional moron, do you actually think that because we donít agree than I am bigoted? Go figureÖ
Honey, we have had this discussion before and we (well certainly me) came to the conclusion that it is not up to you to determine anyone religiosity but your own.
Your stupidity is not in your facts; it is in your claim that the facts lead to your conclusion.

If I say Barack Obama has large ears and elephants have large ears, I have stated facts.

If I stated, then, that Barack Obama is an elephant, I would be stupid.

Now you are not only stupid, but you now know why you are stupid.

You don't have to thank me.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#182974 Nov 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what I asked, is he, to you, universally irrelevant.
He cannot be universally irrelevant TO YOU, since you have commented on him repeatedly.
Are your own comments also irrelevant TO YOU?
Tell me somethng, Phillistine. My mother is not on the role of the Catholic Church.
According to your determinants, she is not a Christian.
She claims she is.
Now, do I have to tell her she is not?
I never said he was universally irrelevant, that was you. What you are doing is the usual buck and trying to pick a fight when you have nothing to need to make BS up so satisfy your ego.

I never mentioned your mother, again it was you and you are welcome to tell her what the hell you like but here is a little clue, Hitler said he was christian and the catholic church says he was christian. So you mother not being on the role is irrelevant to that fact.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#182975 Nov 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
6 and 1 are interchangeable in some of those number worshipping cults when dealing with a progression.
Yes - and?

Is that the only excuse you can come up with?

6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#182976 Nov 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Your stupidity is not in your facts; it is in your claim that the facts lead to your conclusion.
If I say Barack Obama has large ears and elephants have large ears, I have stated facts.
If I stated, then, that Barack Obama is an elephant, I would be stupid.
Now you are not only stupid, but you now know why you are stupid.
You don't have to thank me.
Not my conclusion, the vaticans conclusion and the conclusion of anyone who has studied the facts.

Emotional tantrums have nothing to do with the fact that Hitler was christian

As I said in my previous post to you, you can say what the hell you like.

Since: Sep 08

Fowler, CO

#182977 Nov 6, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
The real purpose of HAARP is an attempt to bring Godzilla back to life after scientists discovered his remains in a block of sea ice. I know this because a very respected Alaskan scientist managed to send me pictures showing the military lowering him into a special bunker, the real site you referred to. My information is sketchy, since my contact is in constant fear of his safety, but he somehow managed to send me a video of a semi-conscious Godzilla shown moving and sporadically bellowing, verifying the strange sounds reported by those close to the sites. I've also heard rumors that Snowden has secret text messages sent from Obama to some of his generals. Here's one example. "As soon as we get this sucker (Zilla) up and running, we're really gonna stick it to 'Ghanistan." Frightening times, indeed...
Look up Eastland's patent that is the basis for HAARP.

You are looking at the egg tooth.

BTW, I'm Godzilla. Never died, just taking a nap. You should quit listening to rumors.

Since: Sep 08

Fowler, CO

#182978 Nov 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes - and?
Is that the only excuse you can come up with?
6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it
You are wrong.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182979 Nov 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
Here's one from daffy dave and feeble eagle, when confronted with the quantity of food available on the ark for all those animals.........."Animals don't need three squares a day, and being at sea can make you sea sick, so you don't eat as much."
So the animals were "sea sick" and didn't eat much, problem solved!!!!!
Feeble eagle goes on to tell about being sea sick on a deep sea fishing trip, they went out 200 miles. Hope it was an overnighter, as it would take approximately 50 plus hour to motor 200 miles. Personally, I think he's full of shit!!!!!
My good Doctor, why are you so angry all the time?

It could take 50 hours to motor 200 miles in the Gulf???

Sure if one travels only 4 mph.

We were going much faster my good Doctor than 4 mph. By the way it was a day trip.

Don't be so angry Doctor. You know I respect and love you.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#182980 Nov 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
And not a moment too soon.
...Wearing those silk bloomers?
No, those are for the pitch.

That's what it's called in some countries.

Since: Sep 08

Fowler, CO

#182981 Nov 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes - and?
Is that the only excuse you can come up with?
6 and 1 were not interchangeable with the cult who wrote it
Oh, lovey, this song is for you.

Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182982 Nov 6, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
Here is another example of how deeply the religious termites have burrowed, and how poisonous religion can be.
Kentucky.....figures, a high school cross country runner with a chance to win her first state championship withdrew from the race because....are you ready for this shit?.........because she drew the number 666. She was quoted as saying she didn't want to risk her relationship with God by wearing a number associated with the devil.
So God is that childish that he would reject this devoutly religious young girl just because of a number? Really?
"Religion poisons everything." Christopher Hitchens.
But just to jar your memory about numbers.

NASAís Apollo 13 mission launched on April 11,1970 at 13:13 military time.

NASA sort of stuck their thumb into the eye of bad luck myths.

The mission failed but NASA was able to return the crew back safely.

I donít believe in bad luck myths but the story of Apollo 13 makes one ponder.

I do hate the number 666.

Atheism is poison to freedom of thought and expression.

Eagle 12

By the way, I wrote that and I wasnít angry.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182983 Nov 6, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
Perfect!!!
Hey Nightserf, good to see you back!

[tipping hat]

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182984 Nov 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Not my conclusion, the vaticans conclusion and the conclusion of anyone who has studied the facts.
Emotional tantrums have nothing to do with the fact that Hitler was christian
As I said in my previous post to you, you can say what the hell you like.
Could you cite the Vatican's conclusion, as you hereby attest to, that Hitler was a Christian?

A link to an official Vatican document, or a public statement by a Vatican official would suffice.

I hope you didn't make it up.

Meanwhile, I have some official Vatican statements for you:

1930- L'Osservatore Romano, which speaks the mind of the Holy Father and Church, runs a series of articles from the office of Cardinal Secretary of State severely criticizing Nazism. The October 11, 1930 article declares: "Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable with the Catholic Conscience."

1934- "The harassment, arrest, and imprisonment of priests and active Catholics increases. The Nazis close some 200 Catholic publications in Germany, take over Church schools, and coerce the young into joining "Hitler Youth."

1935- Lourdes, France, at a Eucharistic Triduum Cardinal Pacelli tells an estimated 325,000 pilgrims, including many Germans, that "the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist in their racial philosophy." He scorns Nazis theories of "race and blood" as superstitious and "contrary to the Christian faith." With such a philosophy, he declares, "the Church does not consent to form a pact at any price."

1937- Cardinal Pacelli drafts the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, issued in March by Pope Pius XI. It condemns Nazi racism and worship of the state in the Church's most authoritative form of teaching. It infuriates the Nazis, who respond with more persecution of Catholics.

1938- In a formal state visit to Italy, Hitler comes to Rome. Pius XI expresses sorrow and outrage at Mussolini's invitation. "To honor a cross [the swastika] which is not Christ's in the Eternal City" the Pope says, is an unhappy sign of Mussolini's "old anticlericalism." He refuses to meet Hitler.

1938-Pius XII orders publication of a large volume (565 pages). The Persecution of the Catholic Church in the Third Reich, in London (by Burns and Oates). It is a translation from the German of eye-witness accounts of the merciless Nazi program to crush the Church

1941 (March)- Vatican radio begins special broadcasts to France and Spain, speaking of "the wickedness of Hitler"

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182985 Nov 6, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, those are for the pitch.
That's what it's called in some countries.
Oh. If I wore those, a long chunk of Buck Member would "pitch" right out through the leg hole.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182986 Nov 6, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
That's where we put the sick people, Eagle.
<quoted text>
See? That's why we put them there. Galveston, you say? Hmmm.
<quoted text>
Free chum.
<quoted text>
You left them there, right?
Out of the 12 of us that went from my group. Only 2 didn't get sick and I was one of those that didn't vomit. But truth be known I was real close, lol.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#182987 Nov 6, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Could you cite the Vatican's conclusion, as you hereby attest to, that Hitler was a Christian?
A link to an official Vatican document, or a public statement by a Vatican official would suffice.
I hope you didn't make it up.
Meanwhile, I have some official Vatican statements for you:
1930- L'Osservatore Romano, which speaks the mind of the Holy Father and Church, runs a series of articles from the office of Cardinal Secretary of State severely criticizing Nazism. The October 11, 1930 article declares: "Belonging to the National Socialist Party of Hitler is irreconcilable with the Catholic Conscience."
1934- "The harassment, arrest, and imprisonment of priests and active Catholics increases. The Nazis close some 200 Catholic publications in Germany, take over Church schools, and coerce the young into joining "Hitler Youth."
1935- Lourdes, France, at a Eucharistic Triduum Cardinal Pacelli tells an estimated 325,000 pilgrims, including many Germans, that "the Church will never come to terms with Nazis as long as they persist in their racial philosophy." He scorns Nazis theories of "race and blood" as superstitious and "contrary to the Christian faith." With such a philosophy, he declares, "the Church does not consent to form a pact at any price."
1937- Cardinal Pacelli drafts the encyclical Mit brennender Sorge, issued in March by Pope Pius XI. It condemns Nazi racism and worship of the state in the Church's most authoritative form of teaching. It infuriates the Nazis, who respond with more persecution of Catholics.
1938- In a formal state visit to Italy, Hitler comes to Rome. Pius XI expresses sorrow and outrage at Mussolini's invitation. "To honor a cross [the swastika] which is not Christ's in the Eternal City" the Pope says, is an unhappy sign of Mussolini's "old anticlericalism." He refuses to meet Hitler.
1938-Pius XII orders publication of a large volume (565 pages). The Persecution of the Catholic Church in the Third Reich, in London (by Burns and Oates). It is a translation from the German of eye-witness accounts of the merciless Nazi program to crush the Church
1941 (March)- Vatican radio begins special broadcasts to France and Spain, speaking of "the wickedness of Hitler"
And yet, Pius II should be considered an aider and abettor.

Actions (and inaction) speak louder than words.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182988 Nov 6, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not pissed off all of the time :-)
Perhaps you could help your compadres because they seem pissed off a lot.

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