Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#182856 Nov 5, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Did U know a research studies (forgot the name) had been done shows upto 2% of the US Population are consider Type A , are Pyscopaths made up those in power leaders like Bush & Co, violent Criminals, most Soldiers, bullies, drug dealers, the immorals, corporatists, predators.... And , less 30% of Population are Authoritarian, sociopaths that is not as bad as Pyschopaths but some these sociopaths are the corrupted easily brainwashed to serve evil ...
Don't know anything about your study or how reliable or what conclusions there are to be drawn from it. You would have to cite a link, name of a book, etc.

There's nothing to debate here.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182857 Nov 5, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>And since ALL vegetation would have died, and the animals would have NOTHING to eat, dimwit eagle 12 proclaims Noah did what farmers do in the winter, store hay and other food. So lets get this straight, a 400 foot wooden boat with NO reenforcement, no propulsion, loaded with every animal on the planet, in addition to all the food requirements they would need for a full year at sea, now we have to add to this enough hay and food for all these animals to feed on after the water subsided? And how long do you suppose it would take for all of the vegetation to grow back were the animals had a plentiful food source? Six months, a year? So old Noah would have to make sure he carried enough food for at least TWO YEARS. Thats right up there with the first man from a scoop of dirt, and a talking snake convincing a rib women to eat fruit from a magic tree!!!!! Can we all say..together now........complete insanity!!!!!!
Honey
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Uses: curing, baking, medicinal, wine (mead)
Salt
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Sugar
Life would be so boring without sugar. Much like salt, sugar is also prone to absorbing moisture, but this problem can be eradicated by adding some rice granules into the storage container.
Uses: sweetener for beverages, breads, cakes, preservative, curing, gardening, insecticide (equal parts of sugar and baking powder will kill cockroaches).
Wheat
Wheat is a major part of the diet for over 1/3 of the world. This popular staple supplies 20% of daily calories to a majority of the world population. Besides being a high carbohydrate food, wheat contains valuable protein, minerals, and vita­mins. Wheat protein, when balanced by other foods that supply certain amino acids such as lysine, is an efficient source of protein.
Uses: baking, making alcohol, livestock feed, leavening agent
Dried corn
Essentially, dried corn can be substituted for any recipe that calls for fresh corn. Our ancestors began drying corn because of its short lived season. To extend the shelf life of corn, it has to be preserved by drying it out so it can be used later in the year.
Uses: soups, cornmeal, livestock feed, hominy and grits, heating source (do a search for corn burning fireplaces).
White rice
White rice is a major staple item that preppers like to put away because it’s a great source for calories, cheap and has a long shelf life. If properly stored this popular food staple can last 30 years or more.

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Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182858 Nov 5, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Your religion doesn't have a problem finding reason to kill some people Christian churches and priests preached about Jews being Christ killers before the world war 2
I never once had a lesson on how to murder someone.

But again, I kindly ask where in the Bible does it say it's ok to murder six million Hebrew children?

If it's the Christian thing to do as is alleged. Then there should be a solid scripture reference.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182859 Nov 5, 2013
Swami Dave sees a Bush Did It political party in the future.

One wonders, when they are in terrible angst about the state of the world and man, whom does the Topix atheist blame the most? Does it cause them even more angst choosing between God, Jesus, or George Bush as the most evil?

“Get it right”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#182860 Nov 5, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Loving someone that hates you is not easy.
...
It is also pointless to love such a person. Why rewards someones hatred with precious love???? I can only maybe imagine giving a child that hates you love, but that is the limit.
.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
..
There’s never anything un-special about it.
..
There is if everyone gets to have your love. Then it is absolutely nothing special at all - it is common and generic. If you want "I love you" to mean something special then you have to use it selectively.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
...I feel no animosity or hatred in return to this individual....
Exactly! But that does NOT mean you have to give them your love. Your love is a precious gift, people should deserve it before you give it.
.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
...There’s already enough hate in the world. There’s no need to add to it.
Agreed on this point at least.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#182861 Nov 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Take the test Buck it doesn't lie, and neither do I.
http://www.bettybowers.com/reich.html
Ouch! No, it doesn't ;0)

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182862 Nov 5, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Honey
Honey never really goes bad. In a tomb in Egypt 3,000 years ago, honey was found and was still edible. If there are temperature fluctuations and sunlight, then the consistency and color can change. Many honey harvesters say that when honey crystallizes, then it can be re-heated and used just like fresh honey. Because of honey’s low water content, microorganisms do not like the environment.
Uses: curing, baking, medicinal, wine (mead)
Salt
Although salt is prone to absorbing moisture, it’s shelf life is indefinite. This indispensable mineral will be a valuable commodity in a long term disaster and will be a essential bartering item.
Uses: curing, preservative, cooking, cleaning, medicinal, tanning hides
Sugar
Life would be so boring without sugar. Much like salt, sugar is also prone to absorbing moisture, but this problem can be eradicated by adding some rice granules into the storage container.
Uses: sweetener for beverages, breads, cakes, preservative, curing, gardening, insecticide (equal parts of sugar and baking powder will kill cockroaches).
Wheat
Wheat is a major part of the diet for over 1/3 of the world. This popular staple supplies 20% of daily calories to a majority of the world population. Besides being a high carbohydrate food, wheat contains valuable protein, minerals, and vita­mins. Wheat protein, when balanced by other foods that supply certain amino acids such as lysine, is an efficient source of protein.
Uses: baking, making alcohol, livestock feed, leavening agent
Dried corn
Essentially, dried corn can be substituted for any recipe that calls for fresh corn. Our ancestors began drying corn because of its short lived season. To extend the shelf life of corn, it has to be preserved by drying it out so it can be used later in the year.
Uses: soups, cornmeal, livestock feed, hominy and grits, heating source (do a search for corn burning fireplaces).
White rice
White rice is a major staple item that preppers like to put away because it’s a great source for calories, cheap and has a long shelf life. If properly stored this popular food staple can last 30 years or more.
Food curing dates back to ancient times, both in the form of smoked meat and as salt-cured meat.[2] The Plains Indians hung their meat at the top of their teepees to increase the amount of smoke coming into contact with the food. It was discovered in the 1800s that salt mixed with nitrates (saltpeter) would color meats red, rather than grey, and consumers at that time then strongly preferred the red-colored meat. wiki
Plus animals don't need 3 squares a day, plus the dove said the olives were ready.

Plus 40 days on a rocking and rolling boat isn't conducive to really hearty appetites.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#182863 Nov 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
That didn't take long.
Now the real catcher comes out. Da Man.
The elite. The one with the connections, the position, and the know how to use them.
He speaks for the little man to his peers for justice. The little man dares not speak to him for his injustices.
Thus he can damage a poor innocent young woman with impunity. He can get his kicks the way he wants.
I am to shut up and mind my place, eh, Catcher? Be happy in the world you created for me, and for you to enjoy with no repercussions for your egregious and gratuitous exercises of self will. I am to fear what you can do to me.
Well, Your Lordship and Highness. I have a clue for you. I have no fear of you or the consequences of you vindictiveness. I WILL take you to task in the name of what is right and wrong. YOU WERE WRONG FOR WHAT YOU DID TO THAT INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN!
Hey, shithead, what you just witnessed is the power of God.
:-)
Dave, are you OK?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182864 Nov 5, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dave, are you OK?
I'm fine.

I take it you didn't understand.

Well.....

An X3 flare is on its way. May get wide area radio blackouts. Grab some tinfoil and roll up one end and stick in your ears. Maybe you can get a jolt that will kickstart your mind.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182865 Nov 5, 2013
Today's technology is so neat.

You can now watch the sun emit a CME that will fry your ass an hour before it does.

That is so cool. No nasty surprises. Time to smoke a few cigarettes, even.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182866 Nov 5, 2013
albtraum wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't know anything about your study or how reliable or what conclusions there are to be drawn from it. You would have to cite a link, name of a book, etc.
There's nothing to debate here.
I did! The Authoritarians
by Bob Altemeyer

The title of Dean’s “Conservatives without Conscience” plays on an earlier book by Barry Goldwater, former GOP senator and 1964 presidential candidate. Dean charges that the modern Republican Party has been co-opted.

Its leaders demand unwavering obedience by supporters while promoting inequality, intolerance and an intrusive government even as they espouse freedom, wrote Dean. In his 2006 book, Dean cited research by social psychologist Robert Altemeyer to argue a GOP trend toward authoritarian personalities. Reading the book today, it seems Dean anticipated the later arrival of Walker as governor, making his Walker-as-authoritarian argument in four parts.

First is a personality that seeks to be a “social dominator.” Dean cited how Walker formed a “Jesus USA” club as a young child, mixing Baptist religion and patriotism, and he seems to have been running for something ever since.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/madison_36...
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182867 Nov 5, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You stole my laugh, Shit Hog.
Expect it, you are lucky i don't come often . No wonder you mentally challenged , war mongering religious nutcase! Bahahahahahahaa ! I see you and as Eagle 12 took a nice nosedive and sank with a big splash! So you not gonna answer my questions,you bunch are afraid and mentally challenged ones. Bahhahahhaaaa
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182868 Nov 5, 2013
chance47 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is also pointless to love such a person. Why rewards someones hatred with precious love???? I can only maybe imagine giving a child that hates you love, but that is the limit.
.
<quoted text>
There is if everyone gets to have your love. Then it is absolutely nothing special at all - it is common and generic. If you want "I love you" to mean something special then you have to use it selectively.
<quoted text>
Exactly! But that does NOT mean you have to give them your love. Your love is a precious gift, people should deserve it before you give it.
.
<quoted text>
Agreed on this point at least.
I feel a kinship with Atheist. My father was an Atheist most of his life. And he and I had many discussions about atheism & God. I certainly can’t hate someone because they disagree with me. Especially if they have caused me no physical harm.

I do see a lot of hateful and vengeful words that come from our resident Atheist. I just don’t comprehend the level of intolerance these people have. Why live so angry and miserable? Every venting word is poisonous.

I’m not angry like that. I feel at peace and have joy in my life. I can joke around and love life. Some of these Atheist are just looking to kick someone’s *ss 24/7. If according to Atheist they have just this one life. Why in the hell are they so pissed off all the time? That’s not a way to live with a chip on your shoulder.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182869 Nov 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Plus animals don't need 3 squares a day, plus the dove said the olives were ready.
Plus 40 days on a rocking and rolling boat isn't conducive to really hearty appetites.
I would agree. I went deep sea fishing one time out of Galveston. It was a group of us from work. We went about 200 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico. I have never seen so many sick people in all my life.

They were throwing up everywhere. The fishing was great by the way. What was really funny was several of the guys were Navy Veterans. They were the sickest poor souls.[laughing].

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182870 Nov 5, 2013
Read a science fiction book years ago about the end of the earth. Some alien race shot matter and anti-matter into the earth and it was a matter of some time before they would meet and explode, and the earth with it. It was a mining technique for them.

But the people on the earth knew the end was coming and they all faced it their own way. The main character went out on a hill with his family and watched the crust in the distance rise as the ripple from the explosion spread.

Lot's of time to contemplate and prepare.

The sun could give a big burp and it would be all over in hours. You can get that early warning, but just think of that last bit of time. Would be my luck to have two cigarettes left and an hour to go. Shiver. But I have lived a life.

Picking the kids up at school. That hot date that night. All of those things that are important. All totally meaningless. An insignificant emission on an insignificant sun in an insignificant galaxy in a huge Universe. Blip. All gone. Your whole species, and most if not all others.

No grand show watching a comet or asteroid and counting down. Just a sudden blast of heat over a period of time.

Then nothing.

The book had ET's that saved some people. But that was a fiction book.

All of that lovely material world of yours gone. Pffft.

Including Darwin and Dawkins and Hawking.

Gee, you wouldn't even have time to be sad about it.

Ain't the atheist view lovely?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182871 Nov 5, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you don’t believe in God.
Who is really at fault for starvation?
You can’t blame God because he doesn’t exist.
So who is at fault?
Let me guess, Christians are the reason for starvation.
Nope... it's greed that is the fault of starvation.

Pure unadulterated **greed**.

Which **is** supported by christian religious views.

So, indirectly, yes-- you Genuine Christians™ are-- in part-- complacent with it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182872 Nov 5, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Their deity hasn't done a thing in over 2000 years except to be an excuse for them to murder mullions of innocents for over 1700 years.
Correct.

Their god? Is a do-nothing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182873 Nov 5, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
Hi everybody. I'm back. I didn't die, just took a long sabbatical of sorts. Anything new?
Hi, Night!

Good to see your smiling face!

(I assume you're smiling-- you always write as if you are.)

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182874 Nov 5, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
It is, I think local French goats cheese best, unfortunately rye bread is like hens teeth in France and they have stopped allowing fresh foods through customs so I am stuck. In the UK I have to use “whatever” goats cheese I can find (and the figs are not so good either) and in France perhaps a baguette or pain de campagne.
Here in the USofA?

Raw cheese is all but impossible to get anymore... meh.

Processed/homogenized cheese loses much of it's flavor. But it keeps on the shelf longer... so...

.. oh well.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182875 Nov 5, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
My best friend is chrsitian, real christian and she despairs at some of the ones who call themselves christian on here. Other than daily life contacts (I can not call many other christians friend) I have met quite a few christians from everyday people right up to high flying to notch church management.
I agree with much of what you say, the problem is that many of the “everyday people”(certainly on topix and to a lesser extent in life) tend to wear their “christian cloak” at the slightest excuse. Gives them something they believe to be tangible that they can hide behind. And for sure several of the ones I know do allow their belief to interfere with their daily lives.
The contradiction is that the higher one looks into the church the less reliance on the christian cloak you find. They tend to see it as a job but for some reason do not consider the hypocrisy.
Google "The Clergy Project". If you haven't seen that site, I think you will find it .. interesting.

I'll not go into details here, out of respect for various and asundry folk.

But go give it a look-- I found it kind of refreshing, really.

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