Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182427 Nov 2, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
this is off topic, but you and the other free thinking folks on here should look up info on the dominionism trend in rightwing Christianity, and also the speeches and beliefs of Rafael cruz, the father of Ted Cruz. here comes the antiChrist!
Thanks. I am aware. They want are looking to install the biblical model of government in America including an inquisition with stoning.

Nice to see you again.

Since: Jun 13

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#182428 Nov 2, 2013
Hello everyone!!!:D

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182429 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
Again you are going to have to let go of this pre-1940's interpretation. You're stuck in the past. This is 2013.
When was the bible written?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182430 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[14] If there were a global flood, you would see a universal, world-wide layer of compressed mud dating the that time. This is not the case.

Answer: The earth was indeed covered mostly by water as evidence of marine animals at the top of the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. And much geological evidence points that most mountains were at one time underwater. However I do not attribute all that as being flood related. Itís just a geological fact the earth was covered by water.
Your answer is a lie. The "evidence" you cite? Is millions and multiple millions of years **separated** in time.

Meaning? That these underwater events were not the same flood.

Even more telling? ALL the events you mention? WERE NOT EVEN FLOODS AT ALL! But were seas-- when the sites in question were much-much lower, and actually under water for **millions** of years.

That's not a flood. That's an ocean or lake...

So. You lied **again**...

... WHY DO YOU THINK IT HELPS YOU, TO LIE?

Since: Sep 08

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#182431 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I assume that you are a man, or at least a human. Does that mean, then, that you have an understanding outside man's ability to understand? If a god exists, then you must be God. Is that true?
Just a small part of him, boooots. Nothing spectacular.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182432 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
15] Putting enough fresh [rain] water into the salt oceans to cover the mountains, would dilute it to dangerous levels killing all marine life
Answer: The mountains were covered in precipitation,(snow).
Your answer ignores the dilution effect on the ocean.

Even as little as 6 inches of freshwater suddenly appearing over the entire globe would ruin most marine life.

This is because most marine life lives at the very top layers in the ocean-- and are quite sensitive to differences in salinity.

But to make your story match the actual BuyBull(bible)? You'd need... more than a **mile** of freshwater dropping into the ocean...

...*poof** nearly all life in the oceans is suddenly and irrevocably dead.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182433 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[17] How did animals get from Australia to the ark, or from the ark back to Australia? The animals living there now go back to pre-historic times, and most are unique to that continent. Koalas require special diets. How did Mr and Mrs Koala carry their food with them all the way from Australia?
Answer: A pre 1940ís childrenís interpretation that Atheist like to strictly adhere too.
Your answer is a lie-- the bible clearly states the whole world was flooded.

Or else your **bible** is lying?

WHICH IS IT?

Either your bible is LYING or it isn't....!

There is no "interpretation" here-- it's true, or it is a LIE.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182434 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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You ignored [2],[5],[6],[7],[8],[16].

Too much for you to refute?

Obviously.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#182435 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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?
So you do consider yourself elite?
Thank you for the honesty, although it took some doing to get it out of you.
You stink.
Top of the pile, elite, those are your words, not mine.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182436 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[1] A wooden boat made to bible specifications would have broken in half with the first three foot wave.
Answer:
Pure speculation
Why would that a deal killer for a faith based thinker? What aspect of your belief system isn't a speculation? Do you have separate standards for your claims and for their rebuttals?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182437 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Nothing about the story is impossible other than everything about the story is impossible. What was described in the Bible about the Flood did not occur, ever. That is a known fact accepted by many prominent religious denominations of the Christian beliefs in the world. Man has not disproved God, nor will man, because if God does not exist, it is impossible to prove an non-existent thing. Man has proved that the Flood never occurred, could never occur, and will never occur on this planet.
Well... dammit... you mean that lovely post-apocalyptic movie, Water World will never come to be?

You remember the movie-- it had what's is name... Kevin Costco--Cosmo--Cosplay--someth ing. You remember-- the actor with a giant ego?... yes--that guy.

You mean to say his movie could never happen for reals?

I am **so** disappointed right now....

... <snerk>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182438 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I am watching that now. Well done.
Lewis Black is a comedic genius.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182439 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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When was the bible written?
Which one?

There have been thousands after all.

:)

Since: Jul 10

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#182440 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I've read as many books as you have brain cells. The difference is I understood what they were and how to put them in perspective.
If that is the case, Dave, why is it that you don't show any evidence here of your having done that? Since I am not on Topix much lately, perhaps you showed that when I didn't see it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182441 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I have no reason to resent it.
You seem to think reaction to your hypocrisy is envy. It isn't.

Dave. You're too well known for that answer. Your resentment of educated professionals was a frequent topic of discussion when I was posting with you last year. Has that changed since then?

Since: Sep 08

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#182442 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Your answer ignores the dilution effect on the ocean.
Even as little as 6 inches of freshwater suddenly appearing over the entire globe would ruin most marine life.
This is because most marine life lives at the very top layers in the ocean-- and are quite sensitive to differences in salinity.
But to make your story match the actual BuyBull(bible)? You'd need... more than a **mile** of freshwater dropping into the ocean...
...*poof** nearly all life in the oceans is suddenly and irrevocably dead.
"Largest Ever Die-Off

The Permian-Triassic extinction event about 250 million years ago was the deadliest: More than 90 percent of all species perished. Many scientists believe an asteroid or comet triggered the massive die-off, but, again, no crater has been found. Another strong contender is flood volcanism from the Siberian Traps, a large igneous province in Russia. Impact-triggered volcanism is yet another possibility.

Starting about 360 million years ago, a drawn-out event eliminated about 70 percent of all marine species from Earth over a span of perhaps 20 million years. Pulses, each lasting 100,000 to 300,000 years, are noted within the larger late Devonian extinction. Insects, plants, and the first proto-amphibians were on land by then, though the extinctions dealt landlubbers a severe setback.

The Ordovician-Silurian extinction, about 440 million years ago, involved massive glaciations that locked up much of the world's water as ice and caused sea levels to drop precipitously. The event took its hardest toll on marine organisms such as shelled brachiopods, eel-like conodonts, and the trilobites."

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182443 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
I have no reason to resent it.
You seem to think reaction to your hypocrisy is envy. It isn't.
Catcher1 wrote:
Come on, you've done it before. You do resent people who are at the "top of the pile."
So nothing's changed? Sorry to hear that.

Dave used to be happier than this early in the month. Have they moved check day from the first to the fifteenth or something? He gets crankier when the cigarettes run out.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182444 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Largest Ever Die-Off
The Permian-Triassic extinction event about 250 million years ago was the deadliest: More than 90 percent of all species perished. Many scientists believe an asteroid or comet triggered the massive die-off, but, again, no crater has been found. Another strong contender is flood volcanism from the Siberian Traps, a large igneous province in Russia. Impact-triggered volcanism is yet another possibility.
Starting about 360 million years ago, a drawn-out event eliminated about 70 percent of all marine species from Earth over a span of perhaps 20 million years. Pulses, each lasting 100,000 to 300,000 years, are noted within the larger late Devonian extinction. Insects, plants, and the first proto-amphibians were on land by then, though the extinctions dealt landlubbers a severe setback.
The Ordovician-Silurian extinction, about 440 million years ago, involved massive glaciations that locked up much of the world's water as ice and caused sea levels to drop precipitously. The event took its hardest toll on marine organisms such as shelled brachiopods, eel-like conodonts, and the trilobites."
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science...
Both die-offs are outside the time-frame for the stupid Noah story, which everyone who gives a crap, agrees was a mere 4000 (or so) years back, and no more than 6000 years.

Your examples were **millions** of years back.

So your off-topic comment misses the entire point.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182445 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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So nothing's changed? Sorry to hear that.
Dave used to be happier than this early in the month. Have they moved check day from the first to the fifteenth or something? He gets crankier when the cigarettes run out.
They have adjusted his medications again-- his liver was rapidly deteriorating, and they had to cut back.

Or so it seems like.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182446 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
So you do consider yourself elite? Thank you for the honesty, although it took some doing to get it out of you.
Of course he's an elite. But he didn't say that - you did.
Dave Nelson wrote:
You stink.
This kind of bitterness and resentment can't be healthy for you, Dave. You should focus on your own accomplishments and not begrudge others theirs. Doctor's orders!

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