Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#182543 Nov 3, 2013


Conservatives Without Conscience
by John Dean
Penguin Books, 2006, p194

Right-wing authoritarian followers are much more active than the rest of the country. They have the mentality of 'old-time religion' on a crusade, and they generously give money, time and effort to the cause. They proselytize; they lick stamps; they put pressure on loved ones; and they revel in being loyal to a cohesive group of like thinkers. And they are so submissive to their leaders that they will believe and do virtually anything they are told.
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#182544 Nov 3, 2013
Conservatives Without Conscience
by John Dean
Penguin Books, 2006, p118

Eighteen months after winning his seat in Congress,[Newt Gingrich] who campaigned on keeping his family united asked for a divorce.[His wife] Jackie, who was in the hospital recovering from a second cancer operation, was confronted by her husband carrying a yellow legal pad filled with a list of his wishes regarding how the divorce should be handled. He wanted her to sign it, then and there, even though she was still groggy from surgery. When Gingrich abandoned his family he left them near destitute.
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#182545 Nov 3, 2013
Cornel West, Democracy Matters, p146

The three dogmas that are leading to the ... devouring of democracy in America- freemarket fundamentalism, aggressive militarism, and escalating authoritarianism - are often justified by the religious rhetoric of ... Christian fundamentalism.
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#182546 Nov 3, 2013
Chris Hedges: The Christian Right's War on America
Truthdig interview

(American) Fundamentalism is very much a response to essentially despair-to being pushed, like the (American) Christian right, to be pushed into corners where you don't have any hope.
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#182547 Nov 3, 2013
Kevin Phillips, American Dynasty, p211

Newsweek, March 10, 2003,
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Bush believes in God's will-and in winning elections with the backing of those who agree with him. As a subaltern in his father's 1988 campaign, George Bush the Younger assembled his career through contacts with ministers of the emerging evangelical movement in political life. Now they form the core of the Republican Party, which controls all of the capital for the first time in a half century. Bible-believing Christians are Bush's strongest backers.
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#182548 Nov 3, 2013
Thomas Paine
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The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.

... Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called Christianity.
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#182549 Nov 3, 2013
JOHN STUART MILL (1806-1873) English political economist philosopher


Christian morality ... is essentially the doctrine of passive obedience; it inculcates submission to all authorities found established.
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#182550 Nov 3, 2013
GEORGE SANTAYANA (1863-1952) Spanish-born American skeptical philosopher
Reason in Science

Christianity persecuted, tortured, and burned. Like a hound it tracked the very scent of heresy. It kindled wars, and nursed furious hatreds and ambitions. It sanctified, quite like Mohammedism, extermination and tyranny. All this would have been impossible if, like Buddhism, it had looked only for peace and the liberation of souls. It looked beyond; it dream of infinite busses and crowns it should be crowned with before an electrified universe and an applauding God .... Buddhism had tried to quiet a sick world with anesthetics; Christianity sought to purge it with fire.
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United States

#182551 Nov 3, 2013
Jeff Sharlet
author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power"


A secretive group known as The Fellowship, or “The Family,” is one of the most powerful Christian fundamentalist movements in the United States. The Family’s devoted membership includes congressmen, corporate leaders, generals and foreign heads of state.

Unlike other Christian right groups, they [The Family] don’t really believe that you’re in power because you’re a good person.They believe that they are the “new chosen,” that you’re chosen for power by God. You’re not so much elected by the people as selected from above. And when you’re in that position, it doesn’t matter what you do. In a similar vein, the foreign leaders with whom they work, the dictators, about whom they have no illusions, are chosen by God for their countries, regardless of how brutal they are.
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#182552 Nov 3, 2013
Contrary Notions
by Michael Parenti
The Michael Parenti Reader
City Lights Books, 2007, paperback, p9

Rightist Christian media comprise a multi-billion-dollar industry, controlling about 11 percent of all radio outlets and 14 percent of the nation's television stations.
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#182553 Nov 3, 2013
Jeff Sharlet
author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power"

Siad Barre, dictator of Somalia - in the early ’80s, the Soviets had abandoned him. There had been a power shift between Somalia and Ethiopia. He was in the market for a new patron... He was very clear. He said [to representatives of The Family],“I’m willing to pray to Jesus, and here’s what I want in return. I want my defense budget doubled. I want meetings for my officials with the Reagan White House. And I want a sort of a hands-off policy while I crack down on some rebels."
And Barre used those weapons, supplied to him in part by the US, to wage a war of almost biblical proportion on his own people, from which Somalia has not recovered to this day. The Family doesn’t consider that a failure; they consider that God’s will for Somalia.
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#182554 Nov 3, 2013
Jeff Sharlet
author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power"


[The Family] is a group that is explicitly opposed to democracy, explicitly opposed to doing things in public. They believe the more invisible you can make your organization, the more influence you can have. They’re acting like a lobby; they’re not registering like a lobb
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#182555 Nov 3, 2013
Jeff Sharlet
author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power"


Somalia [Siad Barre] is almost the purest case possible of US support for an absolutely murderous regime.
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#182556 Nov 3, 2013
Lt .William G Boykin, Pentagon's Undersecretary for intel
Superpatriotism, Michael Parenti, p59

The Pentagon's Undersecretary for intel Lt William G Boykin. In 2003, appearing in uniform before fundamentalist Christian groups, Boykin announced that
Bush "was not elected by a majority of the voters... he was appointed by God."

Explaining how he prevailed against a Muslim militia leader in the 1993 US invasion of Somalia, Boykin proclaimed, "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."
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#182557 Nov 3, 2013
Bill Moyers, Blind Faith, InThese Times magazine, February 2005, p23

Nearly half of the members of Congress are backed by the religious right. Forty-five senators and 186 members of the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential[Christian-right advocacy groups.
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#182558 Nov 3, 2013
Lost Founder
Harvey Kaye, American Prospect July 2005, p34

Reagan ... had constructed a new Republican alliance-a New Right-of corporate elites, Christian evangelicals, conservative and neoconservative intellectuals, and a host of right-wing interest groups in hopes of undoing the liberal politics and programs of the past 40 years, reversing the cultural changes and developments of the 1960s, and establishing a new national governing consensus.
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United States

#182559 Nov 3, 2013
American Fascists
The Christian Right and the War on America
by Chris Hedges, p207
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Corporations and their enraged and manipulated followers in the Christian Right, tens of millions of them, if left unchecked will propel us into despotism. The corporate state has now rigged our system, hollowed out our political process and steadily stripped citizens of constitutional rights, as well as federal and state protection and assistance. This may be the twilight of American democracy.
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#182560 Nov 3, 2013
a young Indonesian university English major - to John Perkins

The Secret History of the American Empire
by John Perkins, p181
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The West, especially its leader, the U.S., is determined to take control of all the world, to become the greatest empire in history. It has already gotten very close to succeeding. The Soviet Union currently stands in its way, but the Soviets will not endure. They have no religion, no faith, no substance behind their ideology. History demonstrates that faith-soul, a belief in higher powers-is essential. We Muslims have it. We have it more than anyone else in the world, even more than the Christians. So we wait. We grow strong.

... Stop being so greedy, and so selfish. Realize that there is more to the world than your big houses and fancy stores. People are starving and you worry about oil for your cars. Babies are dying of thirst and you search the fashion pages for the latest styles. Nations like ours are drowning in poverty, but your people don't even hear our cries for help. You shut your ears to the voices of those who try to tell you these things. You label them radicals or Communists. You must open your hearts to the poor and downtrodden, instead of driving them further into poverty and servitude. There's not much time left. If you don't change, you're doomed.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182561 Nov 3, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>our US Military mostly likely feeds them drugs -making them psychotic ... did you During WW2 the NAZI gOVT FEED THEIR sOLDIERS WITH PHYSICAL- ENHANCING DRUGS to keep soldier in top performing performance and alert and effect turn them into Pyscho-killing machines...
Yes, it's all so tawdry.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182562 Nov 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
That's great. A nuclear warhead exploding is also a "mindless process". A beam bouncing from earth and back from a a global positioning satellite is also a "mindless process". And so on. Everything is a "mindless process", depending on which part you look at. I'm glad we had a "physicist" to point that out for us. What would we have done?
Were you aware that the post was made to a Christian that had been arguing that life and intelligence couldn't arise from anything other than other life and intelligence, and hence his repeated reference to the mindless nature of the blind physical processes that led to life and mind?

Did you have a rebuttal to the post, or even a point?

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