Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Oct 12, 2013
 
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Bob we're dealing with eternity here, why are you so impatient over a couple thousand years?
Your god is an epic failure.

For trying to use YOU to convince people to follow it.

Fail.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> well perhaps you could get a leg over one day? The famous Bobloblah would approve
You **are** Bobloblah, moron.

Nobody is fooled.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Even if it is pretend, I'd rather see that than the predator all the time. But there are plenty of people who are a total facade, to what is really underneath. Take politicians as a prime example, smile and tell you while patting you on the back, just how they are looking out for you. But the other hand is in the vaseline getting a wad to grease you up for the rest of the story. lol
You get ...... actual lube?

Here in Oklahomer, the Reddest of the Red States?

They pack it in dry...

.... with sand-included.

Politicians hereabouts are one of the worst examples of human depravity you can imagine.

Oklahomer national politicians could teach Caligula a thing or two about how to abuse people and make them **like** it for afters...

I am disgusted at the people Oklahomer sends to Washington....

.. in contrast? The people of Topix are minor nuisances.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
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In a word... nothing!
Gods are imaginary.
You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
1. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The finance committee refuses to provide funds for the purchase of a chandelier because none of the members knows how to play one.
2. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
People ask, when they learn that Jesus fed the 5000, whether the two fish were bass or catfish, and what bait was used to catch 'em.
3. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
When the pastor says, "I'd like to ask Bubba to help take up the offering" and five guys and two women stand up.
4. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
Opening day of deer season is recognized as an official church holiday.
5. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if...
A member of the church requests to be buried in his 4-wheel-drive truck because "It ain't never been in a hole it couldn't get out of" (Love it!)
6. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The choir is known as the "OK Chorale".
7. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
In a congregation of 500 members, there are only seven last names in the church directory.
8. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
People think "rapture" is what you get when you lift something too heavy.
9. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The baptismal pool is a #2 galvanized " Wheeling " washtub.
10. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ....
The choir robes were donated by (and embroidered with the logo from) Billy Bob's Barbecue.
11. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The collection plates are really hubcaps from a '56 Chevy.
12. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ..
Instead of a bell you are called to service by a duck call.
13. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The minister and his wife drive matching pickup trucks.
14. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The communion wine is Boone's Farm "Tickled Pink".
15. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if...
"Thou shall not covet" applies to huntin' dogs, too.
16. You know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The final words of the benediction are, "Y'all come back now, Ya hear".
;)
How can you tell which one is the bride in a Redneck wedding?

1) the bride has ribbons in her arm hair
1a) the bride has shaved especially for her wedding day

2) the bride is the one who has her beer can decorated with sequins and dandelions.

3) the bride's gun has a hot-pink stock
3a) bride's shoulder-holster matches her wedding dress
3b) the bride's party all wear matching, and accessorized gun holsters
3c) the groom is wearing his **good** guns
3d) the groom is the one wearing boots-- needs a place to tuck the 4th knife

4) when they leave for the honeymoon, the bride's jacked-up 4 wheeler is the hot pink one
4a) when the leave for the honeymoon, the bride's windshield on *her* truck, isn't sporting a huge crack

6) the hound dogs on the **bridal** side are all sporting collars that match the bridesmaids dresses.

And the **easiest** way to tell which is the bride at a redneck wedding?

the shotgun always points at the **groom**.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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It has.
Things up here in the Land Of The Stupid (rethugs), it looks like those idiots are finally realizing they simply don't have unlimited power...
.. and are capitulating.
It's funny: the ReThugs' are polling at LOWER than even when they tried to impeach Clinton.
If you can fathom that-- pretty much everyone blames them for the shutdown.
I so wish this was an election year-- they would all be out on their lazy parasitic backsides...
Sir Robert and Doc,
Vote? WHY?
We have the very best politicians money can buy -and it does. ;) They don't work for the people - they work for their careers and their owners.
The USA is a Oligarchy.
Why Europe laughs at the USA...
Failed Republican(tea party) concepts advertised globally during the 2012 election run up...
1. The inerrant bible trumps the constitution
2. Evolution and Global warming are a hoax
3. College students and those seeking education are snobs
4. Gay Americans are an abomination
5. Poor people deserve to be poor
6. Union workers are socialists
7. The unemployed are lazy parasites unwilling to work
8. 50% of Latinos are illegal until proven otherwise
9. Women using birth control are sluts
10. Corporations are people
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
-Douglas Adams
Yet, I persist in continuing to vote.

Recognizing the system is rigged, and the whole is flawed.

Why?

So I can justifiably complain, with a clear conscious.

Anyone who doesn't vote? Cannot complain if the system doesn't work--- they did nothing either way.

That's the way I see it, at least.

Others have a different opinion, George Carlin being one of them.

Yes, I greatly admire Carlin, except for this one area, where I disagree with him.

But he tried to help in his way, I do the best I can in mine.

:)

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Yesterday's magic is todays science. Until you have all the answers there will be magic. Bob I all ready know your comprehension skills will fail to understand that statement.
You cannot refute my valid criticism of your rant?

So you stoop to belittling and name-calling instead?

How very Jesus of you-- yes-yes, I know you don't believe in Jesus.

So what?

You **act** the **exact** same as his followers!

You may as well join that hate-cult yourself.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Robert Stevens wrote:
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As previously stated, if you are interested, there are books written by Buddhist and New Age Authors. I don't think you have what it takes to read them. Just as I find some stuff you read to be boring, or not exact.
New Age is just another name for batshit.

Sorry, but that is the facts, jack.

You still have nothing to prove this "soul" thingy.

You lose-- again.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Proven only to ourselves. We don't have to prove anything to you my good maligned atheist friend.
The first words out of someone who is entirely insane?

Is that they are **certain** of their delusions.

Nice.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Faith and Atheism is not a mental illness. It is choice made by free people.
Lie.

I can no more make myself BELIEVE in YOUR delusions than YOU could fly by flapping your arms real fast.

If you have a magic formula that could instill this FAITH you go on about?

Something short of hitting myself in the head to cause severe brain damage?

Then you MIGHT have a valid point.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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How many real friends do you have? Iím not trying to be mean here. I just want you to realize that you are preventing yourself from having peace. You are slowly killing yourself with this inward turmoil in your life.
You have this one life according to what you believe. Look how youíre spending it. Youíre miserable and unhappy. Iím sorry you are not a better person because of Atheism. Some Atheist may be a peace with themselves but you are far from that.
How many real friends do YOU have?

You are slowly killing yourself with your insistence that your inner delusions are actually real.

Of course-- you can likely find equally brain-damaged folk, equally as deluded as you are for company.

The funny thing? When you people are put into a closed space for very long?

Sooner than later, you all start fighting each other-- soon leading to actual murder-- over who's delusions are the REAL delusions!

Seriously-- I have seen it too often, to be funny.

I suspect the ONLY thing that prevents this (you, murdering)? Is that there are ATHEISTS among you for you to make fun of.....!
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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How many real friends do YOU have?
You are slowly killing yourself with your insistence that your inner delusions are actually real.
Of course-- you can likely find equally brain-damaged folk, equally as deluded as you are for company.
The funny thing? When you people are put into a closed space for very long?
Sooner than later, you all start fighting each other-- soon leading to actual murder-- over who's delusions are the REAL delusions!
Seriously-- I have seen it too often, to be funny.
I suspect the ONLY thing that prevents this (you, murdering)? Is that there are ATHEISTS among you for you to make fun of.....!
Bob, do your neighbors a favor and spray for roaches in your house. Donít forget the dishes, they can be washed you know.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Lie.
I can no more make myself BELIEVE in YOUR delusions than YOU could fly by flapping your arms real fast.
If you have a magic formula that could instill this FAITH you go on about?
Something short of hitting myself in the head to cause severe brain damage?
Then you MIGHT have a valid point.
Go do your dishes Bob.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
polymath257 wrote:
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No, it is NOT the vibration of space. It is the motion of the atoms *through* space in a cyclic fashion. There is a difference.
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Simply wrong.
1. Space is not what is vibrating. Instead, the atoms are moving through space.
2. This vibration of individual molecules is NOT the main component of heat. The kinetic energy through space is.
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No, we found the tiny parts and then understand the larger wholes in terms of those tiny parts. No brick wall.
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The expansion is still going on. So the atoms were formed *during* the expansion.
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Do you attempt to be coherent?
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Why do you think the singularity is anything like what happens when we start processes *within* the universe?
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Causality has issues at this level.
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Again, simply wrong. Heat is a large scale description based in statistical mechanics. It isn't a 'quantum carrier', whatever *that* is supposed to mean.
Isn't thermal energy , kinetic energy, potential energy and hence heat, all properties of matter?

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Two Atheist walking through a field together.
One fell into a deep hole and asked the other for help. The other replied,ďhelp,Ē I donít need no help, I didnít fall into a hole.
Dude...stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Bob, do your neighbors a favor and spray for roaches in your house. Donít forget the dishes, they can be washed you know.
Your hate is showing, god-robot.

You have no counter to my arguments-- so you try to belittle instead.

How very Jesus of you.

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Go do your dishes Bob.
Your hate is showing, god-robot.

You have no counter to my arguments-- so you try to belittle instead.

How very Jesus of you.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Bob, do your neighbors a favor and spray for roaches in your house. Donít forget the dishes, they can be washed you know.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Go do your dishes Bob.
I can no more make myself BELIEVE in YOUR delusions than YOU could fly by flapping your arms real fast.

If you have a magic formula that could instill this FAITH you go on about?

Something short of hitting myself in the head to cause severe brain damage?

Then you MIGHT have a valid point.

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Oct 12, 2013
 
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Bob, do your neighbors a favor and spray for roaches in your house. Donít forget the dishes, they can be washed you know.
See?

Without an atheist to MAKE FUN OF?

YOU WOULD BE KILLING YOUR OWN FELLOW BELIEVERS!

Thanks for proving my comments accurate.
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Bob, do your neighbors a favor and spray for roaches in your house. Donít forget the dishes, they can be washed you know.
you are an
Internet TROLL Chickenboy12

Why do trolls do it?

I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

Remember that trolls are cowards; they'll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that's what they do!).
Trolls don't have friends. On the internet, because they interact with human beings, they can convince themselves that they are important, the centre of the universe - that, to them, is better than any friendship.

Don't forget, the troll thinks he is always right, and therefore better than other folk. In real life, exactly the opposite applies. the troll has no friends and virtually no interaction with other people.

If he's a teen (many are), then he lives in his bedroom, trolling, playing computer games with 'friends'(who he doesn't know at all), and joining roleplay sites, where - of course - he is a hero, or a powerful villain, who is respected in an inverse ratio to the respect he feels for himself.

If he's an adult, then he has serious social issues. He may work, where people think he's a weirdo, and avoid him, he may sponge off his parents or be 'looking for work', which means he blames everyone for his problems. Except himself.
Most people who are out of work are nothing like the stereotype; most want to work, and gain their self respect through work and being part of the world; but the troll IS the stereotype whining scrounger, to whom the world owes a living.

Almost every troll is male; I don't know why this is.

The troll has few social skills, and most have never had a girlfriend, many never will.

There's a clear pattern among trolls; they are much more likely to ignore posts known to be from women. And when they do respond to women, they are much more likely to be brief, abusive, condescending and patronising.

This is almost certainly more due to fear than misogyny - they just don't know any women. Except Mom. But their attitude rather reduces their chances of reproducing, which is probably a good thing.
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Robert Stevens wrote:
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As previously stated, if you are interested, there are books written by Buddhist and New Age Authors. I don't think you have what it takes to read them. Just as I find some stuff you read to be boring, or not exact.
I can see now that you are to cowardly to answer my questions, probably because you realize how bizarre they would sound. Usually when someone is passionate about what they believe, they are anxious to share it with anyone interested. You apparently are not that passionate about this energy thing you say exists, otherwise you would have no trouble answering simple questions.

I make it a habit to NOT read books about magic posing as reality I KNOW that if this soul thing was real, and part of our physical makeup that Neuroscience would have no trouble detecting it. There is NO evidence for a soul, NO verifiable support for this energy bullshit, only obscure books "New Age Authors." You know what New Age stands for? The same old unsupported shit dressed up in a new suit of cloths. As if putting the handle, New Age, somehow validates the still unsupported claims for soul and this wandering energy bullshit. And the really pathetic part is you don't even realize how totally bizarre you sound. Energy wandering around imbedding itself into certain individuals. How you get to be selected for this magical energy is unknown. But you better put in your order as soon as possible apparently there are so many Intelligent entities i the universe there is not enoughtenergy to go around. I don't mean to be rude, but..you are &uking insane.

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