Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Imhotep

United States

#179721 Oct 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to hear it. It's almost all depressing news. I pretty much avoid listening any more except for watching Bill Maher's show.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
It has.
Things up here in the Land Of The Stupid (rethugs), it looks like those idiots are finally realizing they simply don't have unlimited power...
.. and are capitulating.
It's funny: the ReThugs' are polling at LOWER than even when they tried to impeach Clinton.
If you can fathom that-- pretty much everyone blames them for the shutdown.
I so wish this was an election year-- they would all be out on their lazy parasitic backsides...

Sir Robert and Doc,

Vote? WHY?

We have the very best politicians money can buy -and it does. ;) They don't work for the people - they work for their careers and their owners.

The USA is a Oligarchy.

Why Europe laughs at the USA...

Failed Republican(tea party) concepts advertised globally during the 2012 election run up...

1. The inerrant bible trumps the constitution
2. Evolution and Global warming are a hoax
3. College students and those seeking education are snobs
4. Gay Americans are an abomination
5. Poor people deserve to be poor
6. Union workers are socialists
7. The unemployed are lazy parasites unwilling to work
8. 50% of Latinos are illegal until proven otherwise
9. Women using birth control are sluts
10. Corporations are people

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
-Douglas Adams
Imhotep

United States

#179722 Oct 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, its utter non sense to the carnal mind. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Many have the gift Many do not. Ever wonder why?
Nope!
Gods? Meh

However speaking of why...

“Organised religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.”
~Christopher Hitchens

I am reasonable and would like to join your cult... IF you can answer these two questions for me.

A) Provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way that religions other than yours cannot do.

B) Provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with theirs.

Scripture?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com

The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.

And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.--Exodus 33:23

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#179723 Oct 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope!
Gods? Meh
However speaking of why...
“Organised religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.”
~Christopher Hitchens
I am reasonable and would like to join your cult... IF you can answer these two questions for me.
A) Provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way that religions other than yours cannot do.
B) Provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with theirs.
Scripture?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com
The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.
And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.--Exodus 33:23
You are confusing belief in something more than this existence with ideology. Organized religions do have an ideological componenent because they were developed in societies of men, but the belief in a higher power is an individual thing. You, as an atheist, still have a belief in this higher power, you just ascribe it to the potential of man's intellect. You are just reacting to the ideology of religions, just like members of those different ones to each other. You are part of an ideology yourself. Such is evinced by the commonality of arguments and perspectives atheists use.
Imhotep

United States

#179724 Oct 12, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
1 Kings 18:
20 So Ahab sent word throughout all Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said,“How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”
But the people said nothing.
22 Then Elijah said to them,“I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”
Then all the people said,“What you say is good.”
25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal,“Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it.
Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon.“Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.
27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them.“Shout louder!” he said.“Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.
30 Then Elijah said to all the people,“Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the Lord, which had been torn down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord had come, saying,“Your name shall be Israel.” 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs[a] of seed. 33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them,“Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”
34 “Do it again,” he said, and they did it again.
“Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time. 35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.
36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed:“Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37 Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”
38 Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.
39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried,“The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”
Awe, you omitted this...

"If any man come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple".--Luke 14:26

NO SALE!
Hatred is not for me.

"Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a vacuum remains."
R G Ingersoll
Imhotep

United States

#179725 Oct 12, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Atheist said to a group of farmers in the barbershop,“There ain’t no hell.”
Then one of the farmers stood up and pointed his finger at the Atheist and said,
“The hell there ain’t!”
;)

Two cannibals walking through the jungle meet on a path...

I need some help cooking, or advice.

What's the problem?

The last missionary was tough!

How did you cook it?

Oh you know, the usual get the water to boil, throw in a couple bay leaves. some vegetables...

What was the missionary wearing?

A kind of brown frock with white lace, Very little hair.

Ha ha !
I know what your problem is.
You're cooking it wrong!

Wait for it... ;)

Never boil a friar!
Imhotep

United States

#179726 Oct 12, 2013
aiidan wrote:
I used to get so stoned people thought I was Jesus
“When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.”~Peter O'Toole
Imhotep

United States

#179727 Oct 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> If a gift is offered to you and you refuse it , who does it belong to? Now get back to awiting your fate.
Gift?
Nonsense!

An often quoted, and very effective line for producing converts to the cult of Jesus(Christianity) is as follows:

What is so hard about accepting a FREE gift of salvation from the Lord Jesus Christ?
It doesn't require anything on your part, but to accept it.

If this gift truly required nothing as the claim says, then you wouldn't have to accept it to be saved.

This line of reasoning is used repeatedly by those trolling for converts in schools, offices, on TV, and just about anywhere else you find an aggressive member of the cult of Jesus.

It's the same nonsense that is spewed and taught in Bible study classrooms in most churches.

It sounds wonderful doesn't it?

Everybody loves free gifts.

The problem is that the gift of salvation as taught in the Bible is anything but free.

It first requires that you perform a work. That work is believing Jesus is your Savior and that only he can serve as your intermediary with God.

Of course it also means that you accept all the baggage that goes along with that.

It means you accept as truth that this "God" will punish people for the "sin" of disbelief(Mark 16:16, John 16:9, John 3:18, John 3:36, Heb 3:12, 1 John 2:22), it requires that you worship a God who will provide infinite punishment for finite sins, and it requires that you accept a God with the behavior of a rather manipulative, power hungry, petty tyrant.

It means you must abandon your mind to save your soul.

You must confess Jesus is your Lord and worship him as such.

That act is a "work" in itself. Faith is also a work.

Make no mistake concerning the actual nature of this so-called "free" gift.

Salvation is exchanged for worship and it's nothing more than a holy barter system where you say the magic words and you are saved. On the surface it's cheap, easy, and painless. It appeals to anyone who doesn't want to be burdened with thinking for themselves, but it's in no sense "free".

This form of holy fire insurance is nothing more than false advertising and should be treated with the same regard one would have when he opens a box of Cracker Jacks and digs out the cheap trinket that came as a "free" gift when you purchased the box it came in.

http://agnosticreview.com/freegift.htm

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#179728 Oct 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Gift?
Nonsense!
An often quoted, and very effective line for producing converts to the cult of Jesus(Christianity) is as follows:
What is so hard about accepting a FREE gift of salvation from the Lord Jesus Christ?
It doesn't require anything on your part, but to accept it.
If this gift truly required nothing as the claim says, then you wouldn't have to accept it to be saved.
This line of reasoning is used repeatedly by those trolling for converts in schools, offices, on TV, and just about anywhere else you find an aggressive member of the cult of Jesus.
It's the same nonsense that is spewed and taught in Bible study classrooms in most churches.
It sounds wonderful doesn't it?
Everybody loves free gifts.
The problem is that the gift of salvation as taught in the Bible is anything but free.
It first requires that you perform a work. That work is believing Jesus is your Savior and that only he can serve as your intermediary with God.
Of course it also means that you accept all the baggage that goes along with that.
It means you accept as truth that this "God" will punish people for the "sin" of disbelief(Mark 16:16, John 16:9, John 3:18, John 3:36, Heb 3:12, 1 John 2:22), it requires that you worship a God who will provide infinite punishment for finite sins, and it requires that you accept a God with the behavior of a rather manipulative, power hungry, petty tyrant.
It means you must abandon your mind to save your soul.
You must confess Jesus is your Lord and worship him as such.
That act is a "work" in itself. Faith is also a work.
Make no mistake concerning the actual nature of this so-called "free" gift.
Salvation is exchanged for worship and it's nothing more than a holy barter system where you say the magic words and you are saved. On the surface it's cheap, easy, and painless. It appeals to anyone who doesn't want to be burdened with thinking for themselves, but it's in no sense "free".
This form of holy fire insurance is nothing more than false advertising and should be treated with the same regard one would have when he opens a box of Cracker Jacks and digs out the cheap trinket that came as a "free" gift when you purchased the box it came in.
http://agnosticreview.com/freegift.htm
You are mistaken on some of your assumptions there, particularly regarding the role of Jesus. You are letting the ideology of some sects of Christianity shade your thinking. You are stereotyping a major portion of the world population.

There is a translation and interpretation issue with that believeth in me and only way to heaven part of the scriptures. He essentially said if you believe in what he said about a benevolent God and there is an afterlife, then you can also have one. The I am the way, the truth, and the life are just derivations based on that. He was relating a vision and understanding, and evidently even performed some miracles from this link he developed. You could believe him or not. Up to you. It was the literalist thinkers later that turned him into a god and an idol. They changed the meaning and intents of the words. This has been understood for a long time. That is why you have the red words. Draw your own conclusions based upon your own understandings.

With words, literal thinkers go astray. Those scriptures are no different than any other ancient writings, including Plato or Egyptian records of history. You can't really know what was said because you lack the concepts of the times and the meanings of words of the times, that have been translated into whole different languages and contexts.

You have to read between the lines, and you have to have an understanding to comprehend and do such a thing.

This literalness leads to a lot of confusion and conflict, and thus disaffection. Cults and their proponents, including neo-atheism, play rope a dope with those disaffected.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179729 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken on some of your assumptions there, particularly regarding the role of Jesus. You are letting the ideology of some sects of Christianity shade your thinking. You are stereotyping a major portion of the world population.
There is a translation and interpretation issue with that believeth in me and only way to heaven part of the scriptures. He essentially said if you believe in what he said about a benevolent God and there is an afterlife, then you can also have one. The I am the way, the truth, and the life are just derivations based on that. He was relating a vision and understanding, and evidently even performed some miracles from this link he developed. You could believe him or not. Up to you. It was the literalist thinkers later that turned him into a god and an idol. They changed the meaning and intents of the words. This has been understood for a long time. That is why you have the red words. Draw your own conclusions based upon your own understandings.
With words, literal thinkers go astray. Those scriptures are no different than any other ancient writings, including Plato or Egyptian records of history. You can't really know what was said because you lack the concepts of the times and the meanings of words of the times, that have been translated into whole different languages and contexts.
You have to read between the lines, and you have to have an understanding to comprehend and do such a thing.
This literalness leads to a lot of confusion and conflict, and thus disaffection. Cults and their proponents, including neo-atheism, play rope a dope with those disaffected.
Creationism is a cult full of spineless liars with no proof of god.

Isn't that right Dave?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179730 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>

You have to read between the lines,
ie: lie about god because you have no proof.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179731 Oct 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Bob we're dealing with eternity here, why are you so impatient over a couple thousand years?
Faith is a mental illness, and believers reject treatment, choosing to abuse the world with unproven filth instead of fixing themselves, and learning how to be honest decent citizens of planet earth.
Imhotep

United States

#179732 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken on some of your assumptions there, particularly regarding the role of Jesus. You are letting the ideology of some sects of Christianity shade your thinking. You are stereotyping a major portion of the world population.

This literalness leads to a lot of confusion and conflict, and thus disaffection. Cults and their proponents, including neo-atheism, play rope a dope with those disaffected.
Christian theology credits Satan with amazing powers over humans, sometimes known as "Satanic Curses."

His sole motivation is to ensnare and capture our
immortal souls so he can watch us scream and writhe in agony as we roast in the blazing inferno known as Hell, forever. Nice guy. But nice or not, if
this is true, then Satan must be granted the status of a deity. He is not just another strange guy in a red suit. He is a supernatural entity with powers equal to or greater than God's.

This must be the case or else the supposedly all-merciful God would not "allow" Satan to direct his dastardly deeds toward us-we who are God's beloved creations.

This brings up the enigma known as "The Question of Evil."

It has never been solved, and never can be. It has plagued theologians of all faiths for centuries. The reason for this is that their own definitions
of God have backed them into an impossible corner.

They have created their own conundrum by insisting that God is simultaneously omniscient, omni benevolent and omnipotent.

Theologians must agree that, by definition, an omniscient God would have known that ultimately evil would stalk the world he was creating.

There can be no doubt that evil is here; so God must have foreseen it.

Theologians must likewise agree that an omni benevolent God would never inflict pain and suffering on his own purportedly beloved human creations.

And finally, they must agree that an omnipotent God would have had the option of creating a world with no evil in it.

Nothing in the entire universe could have prevented him from doing whatever he wanted, since he is omnipotent.

So, how did evil arrive on the scene?

Blaming humanity's "free will" won't work.

An all-knowing God would know exactly where that "free will" would lead-to evil.

So if he didn't want evil to exist, he shouldn't have created free will.

;)
Your turn!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#179733 Oct 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Creationism is a cult full of spineless liars with no proof of god.
Isn't that right Dave?
Belief you are a magical being that popped in out of nowhere is a sign of mental illness.

Turkey brain, if even we, as products of this origination, can identify a beginning of the process of our evolution from such a magic poof, then we have identified a higher force in creative action.

Nothing starts unless something starts it. Nothing can "explode" into a total void and then coalesce into what we call matter. It has to be a bottled up environment for that to happen. Your material world is manufactured. Unfortunately, it appears yours is missing some parts, or has some cold solder joints preventing designed connections and circuitry from being completed.

That makes you a dummy instead of a really animated creature.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179734 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief you are a magical being that popped in out of nowhere is a sign of mental illness.
Turkey brain, if even we, as products of this origination, can identify a beginning of the process of our evolution from such a magic poof, then we have identified a higher force in creative action.
Nothing starts unless something starts it. Nothing can "explode" into a total void and then coalesce into what we call matter. It has to be a bottled up environment for that to happen. Your material world is manufactured. Unfortunately, it appears yours is missing some parts, or has some cold solder joints preventing designed connections and circuitry from being completed.
That makes you a dummy instead of a really animated creature.
The mental illness of faith is no excuse for lack of evidence.

Prove the god your cult sent you here to promote with evidence and you qualify for rational debate.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179735 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Belief you are a magical being that popped in out of nowhere is a sign of mental illness.
Turkey brain, if even we, as products of this origination, can identify a beginning of the process of our evolution from such a magic poof, then we have identified a higher force in creative action.
Nothing starts unless something starts it. Nothing can "explode" into a total void and then coalesce into what we call matter. It has to be a bottled up environment for that to happen. Your material world is manufactured. Unfortunately, it appears yours is missing some parts, or has some cold solder joints preventing designed connections and circuitry from being completed.
That makes you a dummy instead of a really animated creature.
All of these ignorant religious interpretations are invalid until you can prove them.

You have had thousands of years and your cult has failed. Give up your mental illness and learn how to be honest.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#179736 Oct 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
All of these ignorant religious interpretations are invalid until you can prove them.
You have had thousands of years and your cult has failed. Give up your mental illness and learn how to be honest.
You are very entertaining. Impersonating an intellectual and the mass of humanity, and as a personage worthy of any effort to try and convince of anything. You do it well.

A God given talent you have?
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#179737 Oct 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Awe, you omitted this...
"If any man come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple".--Luke 14:26
NO SALE!
Hatred is not for me.
"Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a vacuum remains."
R G Ingersoll
Thank you, this gives us a teaching opportunity for the unlearned and the ignorant infidel mindset.

To the followers of Christ the word “hate” is another term for setting priorities. Christ comes first in our hearts and everyone else comes latter. Remembering one of the ten commandments,“To honor thy Father and Mother,” supports this thought.

In Jesus own example he never “hated” his mother or his step father.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
The subject here is the word for hate, which is the Greek miseo. One Skeptic is typical of critics when he writes:
Most Christians feel obligated to soften the face meaning of the word 'hate' to something like 'love less than me,' even though the Greek word miseo means 'hate.'
In line with this comment, Skeptics will stress the meaning of the word "hate" and insist that the word must be read literally, and that Jesus is truly preaching hate. But in fact, the "softening" is correct to do -- and is perfectly in line with the context of the ancient world, and the Jewish culture in particular.
For a background on the use of extreme and hyperbolic language in the Bible, I direct the reader first to my foundational essay on this subject. Abraham Rihbany (The Syrian Christ, 98f) points to the use of "hate" in the Bible as an example of linguistic extreme in an Eastern culture. There is no word, he notes, for "like" in the Arabic tongue. "...[T]o us Orientals the only word which can express any cordial inclination of approval is 'love'." The word is used even of casual acquaintances. Extreme language is used to express even moderate relationships.
Luke 14:26 falls into a category of "extreme language," the language of absoluteness used to express a preference, and may refer to disattachment, indifference, or nonattachment without any feelings of revulsion involved. To seal this matter completely, let's look at some parallel materials which prove our point. The closest example comes from Genesis 29:30-1:
And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years. And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
Here, "hated" is clearly used synonymously with one who is loved less. Let it be added that if Jacob hated Leah in a literal way, it is hardly believable that he would consent to take her as his wife at all.(See also Judges 14:16 and Deut. 21:15-17.)
Now here is another example from Jesus, Luke 16:13:
No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Such extremes of feeling would be atypical, but the extremes are not meant to be taken literally; the point is that one master will get more dedicated labor than the other.
Now let's move into some secular works with the same sort of hyperbolic language. http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesussayshate.htm...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#179738 Oct 12, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your view on the pressure on the Washington Redskins to change their name?
My view on the pressure, or on whether a name change is appropriate?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179739 Oct 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are very entertaining. Impersonating an intellectual and the mass of humanity, and as a personage worthy of any effort to try and convince of anything. You do it well.
A God given talent you have?
I don't hate you, I hate the faith based mental illness you suffer from. When you realise that lying about god isn't very smart or clever, you'll become atheist.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179740 Oct 12, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, this gives us a teaching opportunity for the unlearned and the ignorant infidel mindset.
To the followers of Christ the word “hate” is another term for setting priorities. Christ comes first in our hearts and everyone else comes latter. Remembering one of the ten commandments,“To honor thy Father and Mother,” supports this thought.
In Jesus own example he never “hated” his mother or his step father.
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
The subject here is the word for hate, which is the Greek miseo. One Skeptic is typical of critics when he writes:
Most Christians feel obligated to soften the face meaning of the word 'hate' to something like 'love less than me,' even though the Greek word miseo means 'hate.'
In line with this comment, Skeptics will stress the meaning of the word "hate" and insist that the word must be read literally, and that Jesus is truly preaching hate. But in fact, the "softening" is correct to do -- and is perfectly in line with the context of the ancient world, and the Jewish culture in particular.
For a background on the use of extreme and hyperbolic language in the Bible, I direct the reader first to my foundational essay on this subject. Abraham Rihbany (The Syrian Christ, 98f) points to the use of "hate" in the Bible as an example of linguistic extreme in an Eastern culture. There is no word, he notes, for "like" in the Arabic tongue. "...[T]o us Orientals the only word which can express any cordial inclination of approval is 'love'." The word is used even of casual acquaintances. Extreme language is used to express even moderate relationships.
Luke 14:26 falls into a category of "extreme language," the language of absoluteness used to express a preference, and may refer to disattachment, indifference, or nonattachment without any feelings of revulsion involved. To seal this matter completely, let's look at some parallel materials which prove our point. The closest example comes from Genesis 29:30-1:
And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years. And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
Here, "hated" is clearly used synonymously with one who is loved less. Let it be added that if Jacob hated Leah in a literal way, it is hardly believable that he would consent to take her as his wife at all.(See also Judges 14:16 and Deut. 21:15-17.)
Now here is another example from Jesus, Luke 16:13:
No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Such extremes of feeling would be atypical, but the extremes are not meant to be taken literally; the point is that one master will get more dedicated labor than the other.
Now let's move into some secular works with the same sort of hyperbolic language. http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesussayshate.htm...
Creationists - quick to talk, slow to prove.

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