Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#179702 Oct 11, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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What is your view on the pressure on the Washington Redskins to change their name?
They'll be yellow if they do. It would make me blue. It'll be a black eye on the face of the NFL. They'll end up red faced. What's next? No more pink flags?

I think it's a gray area.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179703 Oct 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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It absolutely makes me sick to read some of the things these people post. Insults are one thing, but to call someone sub-human simply because they do not share the same belief is disgusting. I can't imagine how they deal with people in real life.
It is likely they pretend to be "nice" in real life.

This seemingly anonymous place does bring out their True Colors, though.

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#179704 Oct 11, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
According to our resident Atheist here on Topix. Atheism is the lack of belief in deities. If so animals are Atheist.
That would mean a cow is an Atheist and same goes for vegetables.
So when an Atheist sets down to have a meal, he/she is partaking in cannibalism? Eating another Atheist?
I’m just trying to make sense of it all. It just sounds so sick.
Your way of putting that all together doesn't make you sound very intelligent. An atheist is a human that has no beliefs in any deities. That is exactly what that word means and has always meant. Trying to force on people that have no belief in a deity, which no living or dead human being has ever known to exist, is actually a belief, or some sort of cult, is just not understanding a very simple English word. An atheist, other than not having a belief in any invisible deity, could have any of billions of other characteristics, but we do not know what any of those might be, simply from the word 'atheist'. All we know is they are not a believer in a deity.

Some do actually, likely, make a claim that they believe there are no deities, but I suspect most, if they are honest, would say they would not have any clue as to how to prove such a thing, since proving the non existence of something that doesn't exist, when we live on a tiny speck in a universe which is many light years wide, and we know there are other universes beyond ours, which we currently have no possible means of getting to, so to say that nothing exists and you can show proof of that is ignoring the fact that in some universe, not yet discovered, perhaps several million or billion light years away, there could conceivably be that which the person has no belief in.

Proof lies squarely on the shoulders of believers, and to this date in October 2013, not one little shred of proof of the existence of any deity has ever been presented by man to other men, in such a manner that all men would then know it to be true. It just hasn't happened, which should lead every believer to be very skeptical about what he believes, if we can assume he has the brain cells to do so.

What seems to be common amongst believers in deities, is that in topics relating to gods, and beliefs, they turn off their brains, which in humans are very highly developed, and some of these humans have accomplished amazing things by thinking and using their brains, yet believers, when faced with the actual fact of there not being any evidence at all of a deity, will set aside that fact, and believe anyway. I confess to having been in that group, myself, for 40 some years, until one day, which day I don't have a clue, it dawned on me, that I had been believing something that made no sense, defied all proven knowledge, and any claims made of the existence of these deities were all wishful thinking or outright lies. Probably two of the biggest liars, who became quite famous and successful at doing so, would be Muhammad and Joseph Smith. Two men who used deceit and lies to sway a whole group of people to believe in nonsense.

That is not intended as an attack on Muslims, or Mormons, but just a statement of my belief about those two individuals based on what I have learned of their history.

A similar thing occurred with Judaism and Christianity, but we do not have a clearly known historical figure to lay the blame on for those, but we do know very well that both Muhammad and Joseph Smith existed, and perpetrated lies on large groups of people.

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#179705 Oct 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I'm curious to know if you are older or younger than me. I'm 32.
Gee, that is the very age I was when I quit milking cows for a living and that was more than 32 years ago, so you were not even born when I was a farmer. That makes one of us quite old.:(
Bongo

Westbury, NY

#179706 Oct 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Claiming something as a gift when it cannot sensed in any way and can't be proven to exist is literally insane.
I agree, its utter non sense to the carnal mind. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Many have the gift Many do not. Ever wonder why?
Bongo

Westbury, NY

#179707 Oct 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I would love to play scrabble with you :)
How about yahoo literati?

Since: Jun 13

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#179708 Oct 11, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text> Gee, that is the very age I was when I quit milking cows for a living and that was more than 32 years ago, so you were not even born when I was a farmer. That makes one of us quite old.:(
hehehe...well I wouldn't say you were still young, but I used to take care of people much older than you, and they would have probably called you a young whippersnapper :)
Bongo

Westbury, NY

#179709 Oct 11, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Who is responsible for hell and Satan?
God is. Scripture says satan is judged and hes being dealt with. Meanwhile, the elect are a little lower than the angels

Since: Oct 10

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#179710 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> How about yahoo literati?
How about right handed Mumblety-peg. I got a leg up on ya.

:-)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179711 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, its utter non sense to the carnal mind. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Many have the gift Many do not. Ever wonder why?
"gift"? Is that what they are telling you it is?

How nice: to call your insanity a "gift".

Perhaps that makes you feel less inadequate.

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#179712 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, its utter non sense to the carnal mind. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Many have the gift Many do not. Ever wonder why?
You spelled stupid and stupidly wrong.

I'm just here to help.

;-)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179713 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> God is. Scripture says satan is judged and hes being dealt with. Meanwhile, the elect are a little lower than the angels
Riiiight... because your god is incapable of fixing the problem in the beginning.

Just as your god failed to make humans who didn't need to be drowned later.

In fact?

Your god is pretty much a total failure.

Proof?

You.

You are proof of the failure of your god to make good decisions.

The fact that your god ...

.... uses ....

........ you.

Fail.

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#179714 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> God is. Scripture says satan is judged and hes being dealt with. Meanwhile, the elect are a little lower than the angels
HL says satin is judged and I'll be dealt with. I've never seen any girl get lower than Angel.
Bongo

Westbury, NY

#179715 Oct 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Riiiight... because your god is incapable of fixing the problem in the beginning.
Just as your god failed to make humans who didn't need to be drowned later.
In fact?
Your god is pretty much a total failure.
Proof?
You.
You are proof of the failure of your god to make good decisions.
The fact that your god ...
.... uses ....
........ you.
Fail.
Bob we're dealing with eternity here, why are you so impatient over a couple thousand years?
Bongo

Westbury, NY

#179716 Oct 11, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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How about right handed Mumblety-peg. I got a leg up on ya.
:-)
well perhaps you could get a leg over one day? The famous Bobloblah would approve

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#179717 Oct 11, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> well perhaps you could get a leg over one day? The famous Bobloblah would approve
Forever and ever?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#179718 Oct 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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It is likely they pretend to be "nice" in real life.
This seemingly anonymous place does bring out their True Colors, though.
Even if it is pretend, I'd rather see that than the predator all the time. But there are plenty of people who are a total facade, to what is really underneath. Take politicians as a prime example, smile and tell you while patting you on the back, just how they are looking out for you. But the other hand is in the vaseline getting a wad to grease you up for the rest of the story. lol
Imhotep

United States

#179720 Oct 12, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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Tell me what God could've done to Hitler to prevent WW2
In a word... nothing!
Gods are imaginary.

You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...

1. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The finance committee refuses to provide funds for the purchase of a chandelier because none of the members knows how to play one.

2. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
People ask, when they learn that Jesus fed the 5000, whether the two fish were bass or catfish, and what bait was used to catch 'em.

3. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
When the pastor says, "I'd like to ask Bubba to help take up the offering" and five guys and two women stand up.

4. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
Opening day of deer season is recognized as an official church holiday.

5. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if...
A member of the church requests to be buried in his 4-wheel-drive truck because "It ain't never been in a hole it couldn't get out of" (Love it!)

6. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The choir is known as the "OK Chorale".

7. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
In a congregation of 500 members, there are only seven last names in the church directory.

8. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
People think "rapture" is what you get when you lift something too heavy.

9. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The baptismal pool is a #2 galvanized " Wheeling " washtub.

10. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ....
The choir robes were donated by (and embroidered with the logo from) Billy Bob's Barbecue.

11. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The collection plates are really hubcaps from a '56 Chevy.

12. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ..
Instead of a bell you are called to service by a duck call.

13. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The minister and his wife drive matching pickup trucks.

14. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The communion wine is Boone's Farm "Tickled Pink".

15. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if...
"Thou shall not covet" applies to huntin' dogs, too.

16. You know You're in a Redneck Church if ...
The final words of the benediction are, "Y'all come back now, Ya hear".

;)
Imhotep

United States

#179721 Oct 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Sorry to hear it. It's almost all depressing news. I pretty much avoid listening any more except for watching Bill Maher's show.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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It has.
Things up here in the Land Of The Stupid (rethugs), it looks like those idiots are finally realizing they simply don't have unlimited power...
.. and are capitulating.
It's funny: the ReThugs' are polling at LOWER than even when they tried to impeach Clinton.
If you can fathom that-- pretty much everyone blames them for the shutdown.
I so wish this was an election year-- they would all be out on their lazy parasitic backsides...

Sir Robert and Doc,

Vote? WHY?

We have the very best politicians money can buy -and it does. ;) They don't work for the people - they work for their careers and their owners.

The USA is a Oligarchy.

Why Europe laughs at the USA...

Failed Republican(tea party) concepts advertised globally during the 2012 election run up...

1. The inerrant bible trumps the constitution
2. Evolution and Global warming are a hoax
3. College students and those seeking education are snobs
4. Gay Americans are an abomination
5. Poor people deserve to be poor
6. Union workers are socialists
7. The unemployed are lazy parasites unwilling to work
8. 50% of Latinos are illegal until proven otherwise
9. Women using birth control are sluts
10. Corporations are people

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools."
-Douglas Adams
Imhotep

United States

#179722 Oct 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> I agree, its utter non sense to the carnal mind. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. Many have the gift Many do not. Ever wonder why?
Nope!
Gods? Meh

However speaking of why...

“Organised religion is violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism, tribalism, and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.”
~Christopher Hitchens

I am reasonable and would like to join your cult... IF you can answer these two questions for me.

A) Provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way that religions other than yours cannot do.

B) Provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with theirs.

Scripture?

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com

The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.

And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.--Exodus 33:23

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