Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179596 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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God didnít stop Cain from killing his brother Able. Men have had the power to make war and always have.
Then?

Your god is not ALL POWERFUL, is he?

If mere MEN can THWART HIS "PLANS"?

That means your god is ...

... just a janitor... a caretaker...

... AND NOTHING MORE.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179597 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Bob, go do your dishes, and for crying out loud do something about all those roaches.
Stop.
Either your god is IN CHARGE or your god IS NOT.
If he IS?
HE COULD EASILY HAVE PREVENTED WW2 in the FIRST place.
If not?
He's not a god.
WHICH IS IT?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179598 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I will answer your 8 questions, from post #179508 on page 8616 . Again, I all ready know you are not respectfully asking these questions. I have all ready noted your are soulless, therefore your condescending comments only displays your sub human ways.
1) An energy that travels as it wishes, frequently choosing to host a human body
That's not energy--that is magic bullshyt. So right at the beginning you start with the bullsht.

Proof of this "magic"? No?

The rest of your bull is dismissed unread.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#179599 Oct 10, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Sorry, but math is the language we use to help us understand the world. We calculate the energy in a consistent way and we find that the results of that calculation are the same for different times. In other words, that computed quantity is conserved. The same works for momentum, angular momentum, charge, etc. For each, there are set ways to convert observations into calculations. And we find that the results of the calculations are consistent.
If you want to understand the universe, you need the language of mathematics.
Not really, Poly. You only need the language to read your Holy Mathematical Scriptures.

Energy is a something "physical". All you are presenting are math equations. Energy is a fuel.

In the real physical world heat is generated when a load is placed upon a force. What has "energy", but has zero heat?

“Get it right”

Since: Nov 10

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#179600 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I love you calling someone a ____bot, you who proudly stated you will respond to my every post. It is stunning how stupid you are. OK now respond wormmeatbot
Are you seriously scared of typing the letters god?
christINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#179601 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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6) people like yourself would never cooperate for such experiment. as clearly seen here you people have no respect for sciences that say we do have souls, and I won't waste my time posting them
never know,
What scientific experiment can prove souls existence?

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

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#179602 Oct 10, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Sorry, but math is the language we use to help us understand the world. We calculate the energy in a consistent way and we find that the results of that calculation are the same for different times. In other words, that computed quantity is conserved. The same works for momentum, angular momentum, charge, etc. For each, there are set ways to convert observations into calculations. And we find that the results of the calculations are consistent.
If you want to understand the universe, you need the language of mathematics.
Indeed, without some math we could never understand how big or small anything ever was.
Bongo

Nesconset, NY

#179603 Oct 10, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There's that famous Christian misanthropy.
Everything that exists or happens is to the credit or shame of any omniscient, omnipotent creator. Is your god that?
Stop excusing your god's failures. He screwed up making the angels, he screwed up making man, and he screwed up when he tried to correct that screw up using the same breeding stock.
But Gods failures are better than the greatness of mortal man.

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

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#179604 Oct 10, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> But Gods failures are better than the greatness of mortal man.
Gods failures are the basis of all human understanding.

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#179605 Oct 10, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Gods failures are the basis of all human understanding.
If there were an all-powerful god, then there would be neither god-successes nor god-failures; there would simple be god actions since everything would be done exactly as decried without possibility of deviation.

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#179606 Oct 10, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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If there were an all-powerful god, then there would be neither god-successes nor god-failures; there would simple be god actions since everything would be done exactly as decried without possibility of deviation.
You forget where god lives.

In the mind of those who believe.

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#179607 Oct 10, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You forget where god lives.
In the mind of those who believe.
Nice reminder.

But, I just made a simple If... then... statement.

Speaking of god-failures and god-successes is a pretty clear human projection. The only failures or successes are the ones where a believer's value system (arrogance?) passes some sort of judgemnt on events.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179608 Oct 10, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> But Gods failures are better than the greatness of mortal man.
Nope.

You?

You are a FINE example of God's "Success"...

... and you are a horrid and hate-filled example of bigotry.

So, I would say even your god's "success" was a miserable failure.

If **you** are an example of the species, that is...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179609 Oct 10, 2013
chance47 wrote:
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If there were an all-powerful god, then there would be neither god-successes nor god-failures; there would simple be god actions since everything would be done exactly as decried without possibility of deviation.
Yep.

And that's proof enough, that there are no such things as gods.

Since: Oct 10

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#179610 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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Tell me what God could've done to Hitler to prevent WW2
Nothing. God doesn't exist.
Bongo

Brentwood, NY

#179611 Oct 10, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Nope.
You?
You are a FINE example of God's "Success"...
... and you are a horrid and hate-filled example of bigotry.
So, I would say even your god's "success" was a miserable failure.
If **you** are an example of the species, that is...
How much hate could I have? God already foretold what happens to reprobates and unbelievers. don't hate the messenger because you hate the message.
Bongo

Brentwood, NY

#179612 Oct 10, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Nothing. God doesn't exist.
fibber, one legged atheist lesbian female fibber
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#179613 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Letís see here, you live in Boston, right? And Boston was the scene of a terrorist act in which women, children, and good family men were killed by terrorist. Not to mention all those that were permanently injured.
"Good people will do GOOD things, evil people will do EVIL things, but to get a GOOD person to do EVIL things.....that takes religion."
If Iím reading you right Doctor. You are saying good people performed terrorist acts in the name of religion?
I donít think that comment will fly with your neighbors in Boston. Nor will it have merit with the 99.8% of the American population.
Too bad that didnít happen in Texas. Because your home boy Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would be facing the death penalty with a sterile needle. Then his body dumped in the dumpster in the back of the prison.
Holy shit, really? How many of those who flew the plane into the WTC were good men until religion poisoned their minds? Do you think they were born evil? Don't you think the promise of 700 virgins just might have made their decision a little easier?
There are many good people who behave horribly because of religion. The people that belong to the Westboro Baptist Church probably are loving parents, treat each other with dignity and respect, on every other level are most likely pillars for the community, but religion has poisoned their minds against homosexuals to the point were they force their way into the funerals for those killed in action holding signs that say..."THANK GOD FOR IED'S. The hatred they have for homosexuals is fueled every sunday by Rev, Felps.
The people who shoot doctors at abortion clinics where not born as murderers, religion saw to that.
We have a former President, a war hero, one of the bravest men ever, a good man, but because of religion he feels that Atheists should not be allowed to vote and do not deserve to be citizens of this country. I won't even go into that dark religiously inspired period called the Inquisition.
Your point is feeble, you pick one incident, a terrorists bombing by what you would consider bad men. They weren't always bad, religion made then do what they did. Once again "To get a good amn to do bad things, that takes religion.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#179614 Oct 10, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> fibber, one legged atheist lesbian female fibber
Lesbians ARE females, You're being redundant, if you're going to resort to insults at least try and be grammatically correct!!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#179615 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I will answer your 8 questions, from post #179508 on page 8616 . Again, I all ready know you are not respectfully asking these questions. I have all ready noted your are soulless, therefore your condescending comments only displays your sub human ways.
1) An energy that travels as it wishes, frequently choosing to host a human body
2) yes, an energy with in you
3) No, unless you want to call many people a liar
4) the soul enters the pregnant woman, some have reported dream.
5) Just not enough energy to support all of the universes intelligent life.
6) people like yourself would never cooperate for such experiment. as clearly seen here you people have no respect for sciences that say we do have souls, and I won't waste my time posting them
7) The soul lives another life after this life
8) I do think that is possible
I'm looking for just a bit more clarification here.

1.) Is there something or someone guiding this energy? Something or someone must guide this energy into a human body.

2.) If this energy is physically a part of the human body why can't it be detected by neuroscience?

3.) So it ONLY enters pregnant women? Can it enter a man? Do you think that someone having a dream validates your theory on souls?

4.) Who gets to decide which of us gets a soul? Someone has to left out since there is not enough energy for all intelligent beings? What if the people who do everything that is required to get a soul, but there is simply NOT enough energy to go around? Thanks for your answers

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