Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Catcher1 wrote:
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I second that.
Props to Redoran, in the vernacular of today.
Thanks C1. I also enjoy reading all of your posts! There are so many nuts out here, it is truly refreshing to read yours, Hiding's, Bob's, Mac's, etc., posts. Thank you.

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Redoran wrote:
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Thanks C1. I also enjoy reading all of your posts! There are so many nuts out here, it is truly refreshing to read yours, Hiding's, Bob's, Mac's, etc., posts. Thank you.
I am not quite your age.

But I'm close.

Same generation.

We experienced the same period of history.
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OK, my friend. I will be 70 in December. I have been through attending some college, going to 'Nam, working for 40 some years and traveling around this planet. And, yes, I am collecting SS, as I paid into it for 50 years, so I am entitled! SS is exactly like an insurance policy. I heard this nitwit, Nick Gillespie (a libertarian) saying on radio, that "old geezers" are dragging this country down with their demands for SS and Medicare. This guy is a "whippersnapper" (old school term).
I have yet to see your god. Yes, I jus' sayin'. I have been there, done that, and ready for the grave or oven, whichever my wife decides. So, you see, I am not a little boi. How ancient are you?
You are a bit older than me. I was born in the mid 50ís. But retired after I was completely vested in my company retirement after working 32 years. I spent that 32 years working with specialty chemicals. Then I went on and worked a few months as a Police Dispatcher.

Presently I help with a family business that started in January. On the Social Security issue, you did indeed work for those benefits. You deserve them and that is what it was intended for.

I think thatís the most I have ever heard you say about yourself. Actually I have never seen God either. But as I stated earlier I know without any doubt heís real. I know thereís a disconnect in you understanding that statement. Thereís a void of understanding.

I have seen him do miracles that were so astonishing that I just canít share them with you. If I told you would swear I was lying. I seen them with my own eyes. Not every day did I see miracles but I have seen a few over the years.

We are two aged men with different backgrounds and experiences. I donít think youíre insane or crazy but you just simply never have reached out or seriously searched for God. Itís probably going to remain that way until you cross over to the other side.

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Just Think wrote:
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Aaaaand...you just admitted defeat.
Next.
Wow, did I say that, apparently you can't read.
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I can ask YOU the exact same thing---
Under modern cosmology, the earth came from stardust which gradually gathered together because of gravity.
None of that is nothing: stardust is the material, and gravity is the force at work.
But YOU?
YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE CAME FROM NOTHING, AND WAS **POOFED** BY MAGIC.
That is what Genesis says: your god used MAGIC to make the universe from NOTHING.
So.
How?
Where did star dust come from?

Where did matter come from?

How did all this self create?

We are back to Forrest Gumpís explanation of how everything came together.

ďSh*t Happens.Ē

I mean honestly thatís your explanation.

No designer, just all self creation.

I donít buy it Bob.

“In God we trust”

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You **still** don't get it.
There is nothing to defend-- I have no faith in stupid shyt(gods).
I have no dog in that hunt.
In fact, I do not give a rat's fart in a septic tank, what **YOU** believe at all--
.... until...
....... until you pass hateful LAWS based on your ugly(faith).
Then?
I do care-- and you will be stopped.
Even now? Your ugly hate-laws that prevent marriage equality are being overturned all around the world.
Actually you do give a rat's fart, you busy say how much you hate religion. That does make you give a something about our faith.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I can ask YOU the exact same thing---
Under modern cosmology, the earth came from stardust which gradually gathered together because of gravity.
None of that is nothing: stardust is the material, and gravity is the force at work.
But YOU?
YOU BELIEVE THE UNIVERSE CAME FROM NOTHING, AND WAS **POOFED** BY MAGIC.
That is what Genesis says: your god used MAGIC to make the universe from NOTHING.
So.
How?
Where did the dust come from as well as the gravity.

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Where did star dust come from?
Where did matter come from?
How did all this self create?
We are back to Forrest Gumpís explanation of how everything came together.
ďSh*t Happens.Ē
I mean honestly thatís your explanation.
No designer, just all self creation.
I donít buy it Bob.
Thank you!

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Catcher1 wrote:
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I am not quite your age.
But I'm close.
Same generation.
We experienced the same period of history.
Really?

I always pictured you in your early to mid 40s. Now I need to draw a new picture.
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Carchar king wrote:
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Thank you!
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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Actually I have never seen God either. But as I stated earlier I know without any doubt heís real.
Religion - its a mental illness. This is the first time this creationist has admitted he's never seen god either !!!!!

Why do idiots ignore the evidence??

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Carchar king wrote:
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Actually you do give a rat's fart, you busy say how much you hate religion. That does make you give a something about our faith.
When you've stopped lying about god to strangers, you won't be so offended by reading facts about your cult.

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Eagle 12 wrote:
I have seen him do miracles that were so astonishing that I just canít share them with you.
Yet?

Your inept and feeble godling cannot manage to muster up sufficient god-juice to fix dying babies all over the world.

Why?

Nor can your uncaring god prevent kids from being abused by Men Of Godô on a daily basis.

Why?

Nor is your god able to see that enough rainfall happens in parts of the world, so that many children starve to death-- needlessly, if there had been enough rain.

Why?

Apparently your little personal god only sees fit to make the occasional miracle...

.... just and **only** for your **personal** benefit.

Why?

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Eagle 12 wrote:
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Where did star dust come from?
Where did matter come from?
How did all this self create?
We are back to Forrest Gumpís explanation of how everything came together.
ďSh*t Happens.Ē
I mean honestly thatís your explanation.
No designer, just all self creation.
I donít buy it Bob.
You don't buy it? Because it is **all** about **you**?

And your little godling has made many "miracles" **especially** for ...

..... you?

There is a word to describe this:

Egomania. Look it up-- you suffer from it.

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Actually you do give a rat's fart, you busy say how much you hate religion. That does make you give a something about our faith.
I do not hate anything.

I defy you to use Google, and search my responses--

-- you will **never** find anything in all of my posts, stating I hate religion.

Or that I hate **anything**.

The hate you thought you saw?

Was all you-- projecting your own hate for me.

Why not?

Anyone who believes in infinite torture of others?

Is full of hate.

That would be .. you, if you believe in hell.

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Carchar king wrote:
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Where did the dust come from as well as the gravity.
Good question.

I am pretty sure it wasn't from ...

.... MAGIC.

As your bible claims.

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Carchar king wrote:
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Thank you!
The blind leading the blind.

Sad.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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You need the education. There are people now planning on attempting to place life on Mars. Without humans animals would evolve differently. The whole game would change. Wolves and deer everywhere.
Wolves and deer on mars?

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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You do know people now do make androids and clones, and they are working on improvements everyday. Honestly, you need to really buy some modern science magazines.
Ergo aliens exist and are androids/clones. Logic! Right?

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River Tam wrote:
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Really?
I always pictured you in your early to mid 40s. Now I need to draw a new picture.
I'm fit as a fiddle and slim in the middle and young at heart, as you can probably tell.

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