Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Apr 09

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#178341 Sep 24, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Open a book :-)
University of Google and Youtube not convincing.
Funny you count Gods, amusing and fun to read your posts.
Keep posting!!!
Good grief, its like you're channeling Yoda...learn to write.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#178342 Sep 24, 2013
Prove it.
mtimber wrote:
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I cannot prove anything to you, your reasoning is faulty and precludes me doing so.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#178343 Sep 24, 2013
Because goatfuckers only invented your god 2,600 years ago or thereabouts.
mtimber wrote:
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How can morality predate God?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#178344 Sep 24, 2013
Talking bollocks Lincock is.
Just Think wrote:
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Good grief, its like you're channeling Yoda...learn to write.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#178345 Sep 24, 2013
I don't believe in your god because like Santa Claus, there is no evidence for it being real.

But why don't you believe in Vishnu or Thor?
mtimber wrote:
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The old Santa Claus argument.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178346 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Really, where do you get your morality from?
I get my morality from KNOWING that treating people as I would want to be treated is a very sound idea. That my actions have a direct effect on others and that I am responsible for my actions. I don't need a God to tell me that raping my neighbors daughter is a really bad idea. I would know how damaging it would be to me if the same was done to a member of my family. In the end societies determine morality, not God.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178348 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Omniscience denies free will?
So you knowing that someone driving a car into a wall at 100 miles an hour will kill them makes you responsible for their death, you knowing what would happen removes their free will?
Seriously, you really believe that?
I am NOT an omnipotent being like your God is supposed to be. Could I see the future and KNOW this car would crash, and had the ability to change the course of action, I would absolutely change the outcome.

Either your God KNOWS the future or he doesn't. Either he KNOWS what will happen or he doesn't. Either your course has been laid out or not, Would you like to say that God does NOT know what course you will takes through life? For if that is the case then your God is NOT al powerful and becomes totally worthless.

Also you failed to address my first point about free will being in direct conflict with the word *free*
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178349 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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How can morality predate God?
The human species has been o this planet for some 200,000 years. Your God thing only decided to present himself to us a mer 2,000 yeas ago. That means that for 198,000 yeas mankind has found a way to decide what morality they would embrace. Remember each segment decides their own morality. Seems certain that mankind would have become extinct if they simply ran around murdering and raping at will.
LCNLin

United States

#178350 Sep 24, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Good grief, its like you're channeling Yoda...learn to write.
Prove

Atheist

Philosophy

<laughing>
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178351 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Read carefully, as an atheist you have no basis for morality.
You have no absolute standard if right and wrong.
If you do, share what it is.
"You have NO standard for right or wrong." Certainly you can't be this stupid. I'm an Atheists and have been for a great many years. Many of my friends are Atheists, as are my children. To date not one of us has murdered anyone, nor have we robbed or raped anyone. Why do you suppose that is if we have no morality? It's important that you answer this question.

If what you say is true then we should be reading everyday about Atheists murdering and raping, robbing and torturing. We should see a huge number of domestic violence incidences perpetrated by Atheists. I'll tell you what we DO see, and that is a huge number of domestic violent incidences committed by Theists, especially in the bible belt. Do a little research and you'll finds it is actually an epidemic. So much for your warped theory about Atheist morality. While your at it, check the religious affiliations for the U.S. prison population, you'll find a very low percentage of Atheists and a huge percentage of Theists. Once again, the evidence for your ridiculous claims finds the opposite to be true. Those with religion DO NOT act a moral as those without.

I have posted this before, I am more moral than the God you worship for I have NOT killed anyone, nor do I condone slavery and rape.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178352 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Nice try.
The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
Negative or positive is irrelevant.
"When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim. If this responsibility or burden of proof is shifted to a critic, the fallacy of appealing to ignorance is committed"

Of course you a wrong once again, this is the position accepted by all those who understand basic philosophical principals. As you can see there is a huge difference between a POSITIVE CLAIM and a NEGATIVE CLAIM.

You really need to educate yourself before coming here and making a fool of yourself. Familiarize yourself with Bertrand Russell's celestial teapot argument, hopefully you'll be intelligent enough to understand the difference between a positive statement and a negative one.
LCNLin

United States

#178353 Sep 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"You have NO standard for right or wrong."

Certainly you can't be this stupid.

I'm an Atheists and have been for a great many years. Many of my friends are Atheists, as are my children. To date not one of us has murdered anyone, nor have we robbed or raped anyone. Why do you suppose that is if we have no morality? It's important that you answer this question.
If what you say is true then we should be reading everyday about Atheists murdering and raping, robbing and torturing. We should see a huge number of domestic violence incidences perpetrated by Atheists. I'll tell you what we DO see, and that is a huge number of domestic violent incidences committed by Theists, especially in the bible belt. Do a little research and you'll finds it is actually an epidemic. So much for your warped theory about Atheist morality. While your at it, check the religious affiliations for the U.S. prison population, you'll find a very low percentage of Atheists and a huge percentage of Theists. Once again, the evidence for your ridiculous claims finds the opposite to be true. Those with religion DO NOT act a moral as those without.
I have posted this before, I am more moral than the God you worship for I have NOT killed anyone, nor do I condone slavery and rape.
Still no proof of atheist philosophy.
"Mumbo jumbo" person attack instead and "Malarkey" as we Irish observe.
LCNLin

United States

#178354 Sep 24, 2013
Still no proof of atheist philosophy.
"Mumbo jumbo" **personal** attack instead and "Malarkey" as we Irish observe.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178355 Sep 24, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Repeat post of atheist mumbo jumbo and self centered tripe!!
Sorry you are uncomfortable with the facts that your God murders little babies. I even posted for you where you can confirm this, its in your own holy book. Do you ever really take the time to read it? If so, it is there that you will discover this atrocity perpetrated by your God. The same goes for his destroying unborn fetuses. Al there for any to access, don't be a coward now, go read all about it.

Since: Jun 13

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#178356 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>Think about it, if God was never real to you then that means you never were a Christian.

Jesus refused to teach the Pharisees because their hearts were closed.

Did you seek for God with your whole heart, if you did you would have found Him.
You at ignoring the fact that t one point I "was" a Christian and god "was" real to me... And yes to your last question.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#178357 Sep 24, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Still no proof of atheist philosophy.
"Mumbo jumbo" **personal** attack instead and "Malarkey" as we Irish observe.
There is no atheist philosophy.

All atheism is is the lack of a belief in deities.

Of course, you already know this.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178358 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>So the bible cant be true because different people have translated older texts at different times?
I do not have to explain this because I'm sure you have seen it written more times than you'd like to...
However, I will not say that it's completely false... I'm sure some stories in there are true, but we would never know that for sure because of the many translations and the many years between them, and the fact that it was mulled over by King James and his group until it pleased him.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#178359 Sep 24, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Still no proof of atheist philosophy.
"Mumbo jumbo" person attack instead and "Malarkey" as we Irish observe.
There is no philosophy attached to Atheism, stop being stupid. It's simply a position based on lack of evidence. Now go have another drink and stop bothering the adults!!!

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#178360 Sep 24, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Open a book :-)
University of Google and Youtube not convincing.
Funny you count Gods, amusing and fun to read your posts.
Keep posting!!!
Yes I have, I’ve read several thousand books, including the one book that you claim to have read but don’t seem to know much about yet base all your arguments on. However it is kind of difficult to post a book on line so if you consider educating yourself to be even slightly important there is a more convincing aspect to google at http://scholar.google.co.uk/

I am certain that http://debatingchristianity.com/ is not a google site but it is a christian site.

And not only am I certain but am actually 100% sure that google does not own the oxford english dictionary

And so it becomes obvious why you are so deliberately ignorant and why you are prepared to show your ignorance in public

Nope I count the definitions of gods, there is a major difference between what people say and what actually is.

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#178361 Sep 24, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Read carefully, as an atheist you have no basis for morality.
You have no absolute standard if right and wrong.
If you do, share what it is.
the only thing holding you from murdering,raping,stealing,.. is a book of lies, that makes you dangerous

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