Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 247217 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Webbunny tumblelog.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#178267 Sep 23, 2013
Simon wrote:
I have no idea where you are getting you facts from but no religions organisation builds or funds hospitals. Sure they may have a name that sounds remotely christian but that is more for image, something to keep the weak minded who need to believe in something greater, happy.
Try looking up Holy Cross hospital, non profit Catholic hospital sponsered by the Sisters of Mercy and a member of CHE Trinity Health. Sorry I am an secular humanist and even I know these hospitals exist in more than name only.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#178268 Sep 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
....
Most scientists are **atheists**....
Nope. They just aren't ignorant Fundies.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178269 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
My position is founded in scripture. Which plainly states men know, but suppress the truth and that the god of this world also blinds their minds.
Obviously that offends you, but that is what scripture says.
When you look at the bible for what it is, there is no doubt that it is simply a book of fiction... no doubt full of things that are good and bad and also lessons that you can learn from it, but that makes it no more important that any of the millions of self help books or best sellers that line the shelves of book stores. If the bible was written by the inspiration of "god" then there should be no interpretations of it, it would be the "word" and that's it. Too many contradictions and way to many claims that simply are impossible or have been proven to be impossible.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178270 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
If you have a basis for morality as an atheist, please share.
Do not even start with "if you are an atheist, you have no morals" crap. It's disgusting that you would even dare to talk to someone that way simply because they don't share your religious belief. Morals are not based on religion...if they were then all religions would have the same morals and they don't... imagine that!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178271 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
So if your child was a serial killer, you would seek to save its life no matter how many people it killed?
So if god told you to kill your child, would you kill it?

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178272 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you been following the news, apparently it is a religion now...
Official tax breaks and all.
Yes... apparently Obama thinks that if you are at a certain age and you get cancer or some other treatable health problem then you will not receive treatment and will be left to die simply because of your age.

That doesn't make it right.

The definitions do no fit. When we define something it is to make sure we know what that something is and that it's labeled correct? Read the definition of religion and then read the definition of Atheism.... are they one and the same? No.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#178273 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a position that claims a truth.
This pretended neutrality fools no one.
You are pre committed to deny God with no rational reason for doing so.
Atheism is a lack of a belief. Some of us are not pre-committed, we had a realization. Big difference.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#178274 Sep 23, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what Atheist believe happened.
Forrest Gump,
ďIt all started with a RNA pool party, there was this band and they were playing hard rock music.Ē
Things got out of hand and the cops came and raided the place.
The RNA band just kinda went everywhere.
From there, sh*^ happened.
Of course the better explanation is that a fictitious being who's origins no one knows and who's physical attributes are also a mystery, scooped up a pile of dirt and blew on it, and out popped a full formed human male. His rib was ripped from his side and magically a fully formed women appeared. yes, yes, this make so much more sense than any scientific explanation.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178275 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
My position is founded in scripture.
Which is bullshit.

So, your position is bullshit?

Okay.

That fits quite well with what you post.

http://www.evilbible.com/

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178276 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
I found Him and I know Him.
You are lying.

How do I know? Because **you** are not "special".

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#178277 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
My God can give you a new heart tomorrow.
One that can know Him.
If you we're willing.
And if you don't get a new heart its because you weren't really willing...or trying hard enough...or didn't really believe...or didn't do it right....

Oldest con going....

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178278 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you talking about?
You posted "LOL" (laughing out loud) to a post of mine, where I pointed out that IF GOD IS REAL?

GOD KILLS INFANTS.

You thought that was ...**funny**.

You are one sick duck.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#178279 Sep 23, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
In this country if you were hungry or homeless youíre better off seeking a religious based charity. Our church operates a food pantry. Itís not cheap foods either but good quality foods.
Atheist donít have anything, nothing because like I said as a organized caring group. They donít participate and they will never participate in any serious organized effort. Oh sure thereís and individual here or there but as a group, not.
Yet in the typical hypocritical fashion the Atheist consistently bash Christians after we spend billions on medical research and healthcare. What they spend as a group is non existent, nill.
You Atheist have no hospitals other than the secular oneís the government provides. And secular is not Atheist as much as you want to try and claim it. As a group you are uncaring, and unconcerned. Your mission is to remove oneís legal right to freedom of religion.
I really donít know why your forefathers didnít embrace Stalin. He had the same goals. Bash the heads in of the religious and worship the communist flag.
I do believe it is NEVER a good idea to speak in absolute ignorance as you are now doing. So you are either outright lying or ignorant of the subject, which is it?

Here is the evidence proving you to be either a lier or completely ignorant. ALL of the following are ATHEISTS ORGANIZATIONS

Foundation Beyond Belief. Child welfare-education-environment- health and human rights.

Earthward Inc. Provide humanitarian aid to victims of religious motivated violence-provides food, clean water, and medical aid.

Fellowship of Freethought....blood drives, collects food for local food banks, toy drives for needy children.

International Humanists and Ethical Union....provides food and numerical aid to poverty stricken areas of the world. Member are from 40 countries.

Atheists For The Homeless.....Based in Austin Texas, they provide food and shelter for the homeless.

Atheists Relief Fund

Secular Center U.S.A.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

You really should apologize!!!!!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178280 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
So if your child was a serial killer, you would seek to save its life no matter how many people it killed?
You are one sick duck.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178281 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
There is plenty of evidence.
Show is this .. "evidence".

You cannot.

You did not even TRY.

This is because there isn't any.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#178282 Sep 23, 2013
Thinking wrote:
My post crossed with yours... What the hell has happened to 12?
<quoted text>
Dropped on his head as a baby?

PS...I'd move to England in a heartbeat...such a great country. I try to get to London at least once a year...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178283 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is that the default?
Because it is: the burden of proof is **always** on the person making the positive claim.

You made such a claim: you claim "god is real".

PROVE IT.

If you cannot?

Your claim is FALSE.

Since, god is either REAL or NOT REAL?

If your claim is FALSE (as proven by your lack of proof)

Then god must not be real-- BY DEFAULT.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178284 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
My God can give you a new heart tomorrow.
One that can know Him.
If you we're willing.
Lie.

I was more than willing for 40 years.

Your god?

Never bothered to show up-- he cannot.

Due to a severe lack of existence.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178285 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
What moral standard are you using to judge Him?
Human.

And?

I would expect an actual **GOD** to **SURPASS** that with flying colors.

As a minimum standard.

Does your bible-god pass the HUMAN standard?

No.

Not even close: your god?

Accepts SLAVERY as being FINE.

Fail.

YOUR GOD ISN'T EVEN AS MORAL AS MERE HUMANS.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#178286 Sep 23, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
So because there is free will, God cannot exist?
Your god?

Correct: your god cannot exist, if free will is real.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

NCAA Basketball Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision (Jan '08) 18 min R C Honey 310,472
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 26 min sonicfilter 1,274,451
News UCLA FOOTBALL NOTEBOOK: Neuheisel says Prince w... (Sep '10) 1 hr Trojan 29,907
What role do you think humans play in global wa... (Sep '14) 3 hr IB DaMann 6,800
Conn's Appliances (Nov '07) Aug 20 Jcrombie67 282
Hoophall Invitational - Miami Aug 17 Hoophall 1
News Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex ma... (Aug '10) Aug 16 Doctor Justice_ 201,862
More from around the web