Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#177306 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I'll get back to you on this after I argue with someone that says the grass is purple. I am not taking your word over Stephen Hawking so give it up. It is sad you and your band of idiots babble on. The last sentence in the Hawking video told the story.
Hawking didn't make that video. He had *one* quote saying that the universe had a beginning.

If you want to take the word of Stephen Hawking, then you would be an atheist as he is.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#177307 Sep 14, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Its your own stupidity that prevents you from understanding evolution. This can't really be helped.
Willful neglect of facts is a symptom of the mental illness of creationism.
Exactly. Blunt but essentially true.

Some people are superstitious, though they may be quite intelligent and successful. African governments are full of them and even the President in the USA professes to be a Christian which implies belief in an Abrahmic god who sent a prophet to Earth. Perhaps people should be more worried about that.

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and outdated.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#177308 Sep 14, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Dealing with massive egos with no place to go other than a thread.
They are amusing as self centered people go.
Atheists proof of anything would be interesting to read.
Peace
Have a good day
Your bitter proofless ramblings are just a creationist waste of space.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177309 Sep 14, 2013
Just a reminder. My facts are base on the words of Stephen Hawking. You bean heads with less than 4th grade reading comprehension are not worthy. Now enjoy he video, and if you are wise, celebrate, because your current beliefs suck in every detail.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177310 Sep 14, 2013
I all ready know this video is beyond your comprehension. On a higher level than the worm meat that dwells here, this would be more than enough proof, perhaps this answers why the only atheist hat are left have bad comprehension skills.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#177311 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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This is what we are dealing with here, and I can't see why you waste so much time posting with them. You could agree with them on something like evolution, but if you disagree with a detail of there version of evolution. One in which THEY CAN'T PROVE. Then you fall into a group of people that disagree with them, and don't believe evolution. They are so lock step in their thinking they could not imagine a person not being in lock step. I stand by what I said and other believers in evolution say If we were from tree primates we would be much stronger, and our feet would be much different.
I have nothing better to do.

Do I really care what they think? No.

I believe in evolving, but not in the evolution they don't understand but worship anyhow. I just posted within the last day or two about that. It is the difference between meat making the mind or the mind making the meat, but with a third party inserted. These are factory produced vehicles we inhabit and have to learn how to drive. The models change periodically to keep up with the environment. They believe these complex consciousnesses we possess are strictly the result of shit getting stirred. I do have a problem arguing with their self-appraisals as their belief is a very small minority of mankind. The production process does produce lemons.

The intelligence they exhibit seems to fall within a small range on the higher end of average. A range where they can be taught some things, but lack the ability to understand them. A unique range where a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. This is evinced by them all reciting the same tired old "evidence" that there isn't a god or reasonable facsimile. Things they read in a book and can't develop any further on their own.

Interesting article on CNN this morning.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/14/hey-...

However, it is a fruitless appeal due to the reality I just described. It will take a serious disruption of their routine to ever get their minds kicked into a higher orbit.

They don't know how not to listen to the "experts" and to think for themselves.

They are a unique kind of dumb.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177312 Sep 14, 2013
The message tread "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" Watch this video Dawkins vs Lennon. wait for it, wait for it, YES!!! 1minute and 7 seconds in my unquestionable walk off home run.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177313 Sep 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I have nothing better to do.
Do I really care what they think? No.
I believe in evolving, but not in the evolution they don't understand but worship anyhow. I just posted within the last day or two about that. It is the difference between meat making the mind or the mind making the meat, but with a third party inserted. These are factory produced vehicles we inhabit and have to learn how to drive. The models change periodically to keep up with the environment. They believe these complex consciousnesses we possess are strictly the result of shit getting stirred. I do have a problem arguing with their self-appraisals as their belief is a very small minority of mankind. The production process does produce lemons.
The intelligence they exhibit seems to fall within a small range on the higher end of average. A range where they can be taught some things, but lack the ability to understand them. A unique range where a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. This is evinced by them all reciting the same tired old "evidence" that there isn't a god or reasonable facsimile. Things they read in a book and can't develop any further on their own.
Interesting article on CNN this morning.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/14/hey-...
However, it is a fruitless appeal due to the reality I just described. It will take a serious disruption of their routine to ever get their minds kicked into a higher orbit.
They don't know how not to listen to the "experts" and to think for themselves.
They are a unique kind of dumb.
There is no question they are left behind. What makes them hopeless is I am sure they would not cooperate with the help that they do need to get. It really all evolves around that not trusting others. At least that is my opinion of why they are stuck in a lower gear.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#177314 Sep 14, 2013
Religion = superstition and ID/Creationism is motivated by it.
Truth will out.

https://www.google.co.uk/search...

Jonny Eve sums it up...
http://www.atheismuk.com/2012/03/31/atheism/y...
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177315 Sep 14, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Dealing with massive egos with no place to go other than a thread.
They are amusing as self centered people go.
Atheists proof of anything would be interesting to read.
Peace
Have a good day
Ok everyone, get ready to watch the cowardly Christian run. One of two thing will happen here, there will either be NO response or rebuttal, or the response will be in the form of a personal insult, or witty comment, but NO direct response to what I am about to post. I do love it when deluded Christians like this Godbot, put their tails between their legs and run and hide like frighted little girls.

His comment.."Atheist PROOF of anything would be interesting to read" So Godbot, crack open your holy book for it is THERE you will find the proof of the God you worship murdering innocent little babies. Open to GENESIS 12:29. Here is where you will find the PROOF. Oh, and you might also want to read GENESIS 7:14 and 12:17, more murdering going on here also.

So there's your proof, right there in your own holy book, the word of God.......Now assume the position.....ready?..., tail between your legs..........start running......ready.... set........GO!!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177316 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
Just a reminder. My facts are base on the words of Stephen Hawking. You bean heads with less than 4th grade reading comprehension are not worthy. Now enjoy he video, and if you are wise, celebrate, because your current beliefs suck in every detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1YvWaLSOOIQXX
I KNOW that comprehension is not your strongest suit, but do make an attempt to not look completely stupid here. Read post #177267.....read it over and over, just so you won't have trouble understanding it. It is here that you will discover how totally dishonest and absurd this video really is. Next look up the meaning of "Quote mine." Now get busy, remember stupid is forever. Now we don't want that do we!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177317 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
I all ready know this video is beyond your comprehension. On a higher level than the worm meat that dwells here, this would be more than enough proof, perhaps this answers why the only atheist hat are left have bad comprehension skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wHHz4mB9GKYXX
Please refer to post #177267!!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177318 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
The message tread "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" Watch this video Dawkins vs Lennon. wait for it, wait for it, YES!!! 1minute and 7 seconds in my unquestionable walk off home run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4NzFr4lM-lcXX
You're advertising your stupidity over, and over, please refer to post # 177267, just trying to help you out here, you know how it is when you see someone embarrassing themselves over and over, and you really want to help, same thing here, I am doing my best. Reread the post!!!!!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#177319 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
Just a reminder. My facts are base on the words of Stephen Hawking. You bean heads with less than 4th grade reading comprehension are not worthy. Now enjoy he video, and if you are wise, celebrate, because your current beliefs suck in every detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1YvWaLSOOIQXX
Most of us listen to Hawking and consider what he said.
It doesn't mean we believe anything, it means we consider it with all other things scientific in nature. His idea's are incorporated into what we know, about the physical laws, and quantum mechanics, cosmology and out own knowledge of this reality.
You seem to have all the belief here, you "believe" him to be wrong. But you never even considered what he said could be right.

But that's what the religious do, is make the world fit to your view. While the scientifically minded adjust the vision of the world, with the evidence that shows us how it really is.
Only when forced too, and with great pain kicking and screaming clawing and biting will the religious change their conception of the world. Even when it is known to be wrong.
LCNLin

United States

#177320 Sep 14, 2013
An evangelical atheist is one who not only believes there is no God, but is obsessed with convincing everyone around them to become an atheist by posting their atheist religious belief.
Not to be confused with normal atheists/agnostics.
Teen angst in many cases....just saying.
Peace

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#177321 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
I all ready know this video is beyond your comprehension. On a higher level than the worm meat that dwells here, this would be more than enough proof, perhaps this answers why the only atheist hat are left have bad comprehension skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wHHz4mB9GKYXX
Yes, we do not understand quantum gravity. That said, string theory eliminates the infinities described in this video. This is a very active area of theoretical research in physics.

Now, how is that relevant to the question of the existence of a deity?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#177322 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
Just a reminder. My facts are base on the words of Stephen Hawking. You bean heads with less than 4th grade reading comprehension are not worthy. Now enjoy he video, and if you are wise, celebrate, because your current beliefs suck in every detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1YvWaLSOOIQXX
No, your 'facts' are NOT based on the words of Hawking. The video you linked to has *one* quote from Hawking and a mess of misunderstandings surrounding it. This is the worst type of quote-mining.

Again, if you want to follow the words of Hawking, you would be an atheist, like he is. Instead, you just want to ignore the actual evidence and play to your own biases.

“The King of R&R”

Since: Dec 07

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#177323 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
Just a reminder. My facts are base on the words of Stephen Hawking. You bean heads with less than 4th grade reading comprehension are not worthy. Now enjoy he video, and if you are wise, celebrate, because your current beliefs suck in every detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1YvWaLSOOIQXX
This is an illegal vid, and you know it is, evangelical. Here is what Stephen Hawking truly believes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

“The King of R&R”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#177324 Sep 14, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
An evangelical atheist is one who not only believes there is no God, but is obsessed with convincing everyone around them to become an atheist by posting their atheist religious belief.
Not to be confused with normal atheists/agnostics.
Teen angst in many cases....just saying.
Peace
As a freethinker, any kind of irrational thinking is upsetting. I cannot comprehend anything supernatural, i.e., tarot cards, palm reading, psychics, magic, astrology, ghosts, fortune telling, god, etc. None of them exist. If you can prove any of them are factual/proof, let me hear of it. I do not want heresay.
xianity is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#177326 Sep 14, 2013
Heaven is a ‘fairy story for people afraid of the dark’, Professor Stephen Hawking suggestd yesterday.
As well as saying there is no heaven or afterlife, the renowned scientist said that our brains switch off like ‘broken down computers’ when we die.
His comments upset some religious groups, already angry at his statement last year that the universe was not created by God.
Professor Hawking’s latest remarks came in an interview in which the theoretical physicist told how he had learnt to live in the shadow of death since being diagnosed with motor neurone disease aged 21.
The disease, which is incurable, was expected to kill him within a few years. Instead, he said, it ultimately led him to enjoy life more.
The 69-year-old Cambridge University academic said:‘I have lived with the prospect of an early death for the last 49 years.
‘I’m not afraid of death, but I’m in no hurry to die. I have so much I want to do first.
‘I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail.
‘There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

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