Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#177126 Sep 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Provide your basis of moral superiority for passing moral judgement on a deity that created us in its image. Where did you get that higher morality?
If your god asked you to kill your children or even just a stranger...would you do it?

Since: Jun 13

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#177127 Sep 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are confused about the difference between obedience to men and obedience to a deity.
You are also confused about compassion. You have too many morality issues to be a truly objective scientist. You observe and measure by your own yardstick. It isn't calibrated to the greater reality.
How can anyone get confused about the definition of compassion????

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#177129 Sep 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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If your god asked you to kill your children or even just a stranger...would you do it?
You probably think that is a witty question to ask. That is something you would have to ask yourself, not me. You are the one stuck on a god working that way, I'm not. Perhaps you are use to hearing voices, I myself would never trust a voice in my head.

I will ask you a question. If you had an adult son and you were out with him, and he got into an altercation with someone, would you kill him if he pulled a knife or gun with the intent of killing that other person just out of anger? There is no threat to his life. Would you kill your own to protect another human being?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177130 Sep 11, 2013
every game wrote:
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This is the ugly behavior of the typical unfriendly atheist.
Hate speech from a Genuine Christian™, displays his "love".
every game wrote:
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Thanks for showing us all how ugly and childish an atheist can be.
More "love" from a Genuine Christian™
every game wrote:
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According to Bob, you are an idiot because Bob says that Satan doesn't exist. Bob says you are delusional for following Satan.
I wonder why Bob won't actually say this himself? Hypocrisy?
You **are** a moron-- you don't even recognize sarcasm when you see it.

You live a sad little narrow-minded life-- a wasted one.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#177131 Sep 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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How can anyone get confused about the definition of compassion????
You'll have to give Dave a break.

He's....let's say....robotic?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177132 Sep 11, 2013
every game wrote:
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I can see exactly why you are going to Hell.
And no, this is not a hate speech. It is a speech revealing how ugly and wicked you are as a worthless person.
Hate speech duly noted. And reported.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#177133 Sep 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Nor do you want mud tread on one side, and highway tread on the other-- weird steering and wonky braking performance.
Four big mud tires three shotgun shells 2 hunting dogs...
And some parts to a mustang gt.
xianity is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#177134 Sep 11, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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These are very stupid Atheist. I think the average atheist would have just left this tread alone. They would understand the ideas of this video below and choose another place to debate the theist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1YvWaLSOOIQXX
Youre OFF TOPIC, Bobby,,

dont you have ANY life?
xianity is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#177135 Sep 11, 2013
every game wrote:
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I can see exactly why you are going to Hell.
And no, this is not a hate speech. It is a speech revealing how ugly and wicked you are as a worthless person.
are you still angry bc you cant prove god?

or bc you dont have any friends.

Since: Jun 13

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#177136 Sep 11, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You probably think that is a witty question to ask. That is something you would have to ask yourself, not me. You are the one stuck on a god working that way, I'm not. Perhaps you are use to hearing voices, I myself would never trust a voice in my head.
I will ask you a question. If you had an adult son and you were out with him, and he got into an altercation with someone, would you kill him if he pulled a knife or gun with the intent of killing that other person just out of anger? There is no threat to his life. Would you kill your own to protect another human being?
I didn't think that was a "witty" question... just a question actually. I'm not stuck on anything actually. In the old testament it's written that god asked his followers to kill their children so it's not a question of whether or not a christian god works that way... the christian god does work that way. lol...I do not hear voices, as I'm sure you don't either as you stated. However that does raise the question of how you "hear" your god "speak" to you. My question to you however still stands, If your god asked you to kill your children or a stranger, would you?

If I'm understanding you correctly... your question to me was... If I had an adult male son who was attempting to murder someone for no good reason and I was a witness to that, would I kill my son in order to save that persons life? I don't have any kids, but I think if put in that situation I would probably try everything that I could to stop my son without killing him. I would not want to kill my child, but I would also not want the other person to be harmed especially if there was no threat to my son from them.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177137 Sep 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes... we know you have zero counter-argument here.
My point is valid: religion is the **opposite** of science.
Science seeks to **understand** the universe.
Religion seeks to re-fabricate it in it's wish-fulfillment image-- and will **deny** any and all facts that contradict religion's claims.
The two cannot co-exist peacefully-- religion will **always** be forced to **deny** science, as science proves over and over, that religion is just a big lie.
"Religious beliefs denigrates the power of human understanding whereas science elevates it."
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#177138 Sep 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Yes... he does not "do" arguments.
The entirety of his posting-style is to belittle, name-call and scream "IS NOT" over and over.
Apparently he's not intelligent enough to carry on any kind of dialog. I do see the trend you are speaking of. He has no position on anything, no argument, no rational rebuttal, nothing!!!! Don't you think it s kind of pointless to come to a site like this ill prepared to engage in any kind of meaningful dialog?

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#177139 Sep 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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This is a disgusting display of your personality. You should be ashamed.
A psychiatrist would have a field day with him....abnormal psychology that is ;0)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177140 Sep 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"Religious beliefs denigrates the power of human understanding whereas science elevates it."
Nice quote... who said it?

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177141 Sep 11, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently he's not intelligent enough to carry on any kind of dialog. I do see the trend you are speaking of. He has no position on anything, no argument, no rational rebuttal, nothing!!!! Don't you think it s kind of pointless to come to a site like this ill prepared to engage in any kind of meaningful dialog?
Indeed it is pointless.

But pointlessness is one of the hallmarks of a True Believer™.

... what with their god being just a delusion and all.

:)

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#177142 Sep 11, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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Youre OFF TOPIC, Bobby,,
dont you have ANY life?
Don't you love how these youtube clips use a few quotes and spin them anyway they wish....context ignored.

Mainline theists don't have the faintest clue what "god" means to a man like Hawking or Einstein for that matter. It's hard to grasp that an abstract principle of order and harmony can be considered a god versus the interested supernatural entity that supposedly knows the number of hairs on your head.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177143 Sep 11, 2013
albtraum wrote:
... the interested supernatural entity that supposedly knows the number of hairs on your head.
Who apparently has an obsession with both foreskins and your diet....

... along with the composition of your clothing.\

Clueless, the whole lot.

Since: Jun 13

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#177144 Sep 11, 2013
albtraum wrote:
<quoted text>A psychiatrist would have a field day with him....abnormal psychology that is ;0)
Agreed :-)

“The Intrepid”

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#177145 Sep 11, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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How can anyone get confused about the definition of compassion????
Apparently it's quite easy for lisping old perverts.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/rich...

:p

“The Intrepid”

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#177146 Sep 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hate speech from a Genuine Christian™, displays his "love".
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More "love" from a Genuine Christian™
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You **are** a moron-- you don't even recognize sarcasm when you see it.
You live a sad little narrow-minded life-- a wasted one.
Hate speech, noted...and reported.

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