Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176074 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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If matter and energy have existed for all time, then the universe did not start. It has always been going. Is that so hard for you to understand?
OK it's a theory.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176075 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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And you notice that Kaku's positions are based on actual data. That is the difference between science and religion: science adjusts based on actual evidence and facts, while religion tells us to ignore the facts and maintain faith.
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Nobody has given any way of even defining the concept of a God to the extent it can be tested. Until a specific test can be given, it isn't even a question about reality: it is only a matter of opinion and imagination.
I agree. My statement is nothing could be proven. I strongly favor there being a creator/protector. Protector does not mean Superman saving Lois Lane. The refection is more in terms of us not getting invaded by superior beings. Perhaps God will show us his hand when we try to rape another planet.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#176076 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You cannot disprove that God and are of the minority opinion in all human history so why trust you? It just does not seem to occur to you that if you are wrong you have made just about the biggest and stupidest mistake any human being can make in life which comes with horrible consequences.
We're not afraid of your "horrible consequences".

As aptly stated by Robert Ingersoll:

"The doctrine of eternal punishment is in perfect harmony with the savagery of the men who made the orthodox creeds. It is in harmony with torture, with flaying alive, and with burnings. The men who burned their fellow-men for a moment, believed that God would burn his enemies forever." Crumbling Creeds.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176078 Sep 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The ancients also supposed that bleeding the ill would let the evil spirits out that were making them sick. They thought the Earth was the center of the universe, that witches were responsible for all manner of things, that albatrosses were bad luck and all manner of stupid crap.
Well they had the blueprint for healthy living and disease prevention right in the Old Testament. Keep clean eat right, healthy sexual practices. Isolate those diseased. The position of the Earth comes with no real terrible consequences. Sure they had superstitions and many do today. It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda.

The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth. There is just too many independent accounts. Too much evidence the moderns cannot sweep under the rug.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#176079 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Well they had the blueprint for healthy living and disease prevention right in the Old Testament. Keep clean eat right, healthy sexual practices. Isolate those diseased. The position of the Earth comes with no real terrible consequences. Sure they had superstitions and many do today. It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda.
The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth. There is just too many independent accounts. Too much evidence the moderns cannot sweep under the rug.
"It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda."

Your mistake is gargantuan in assuming truth is secular.

"The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth."

Your second mistake is to believe the lies of those who want to enforce rule of thumb , by using your own superstition. They have duped you into this belief of entirely false claims.

The Kings of Europe were able to find and prove anything so long as you believe the lies they told.

You are living in a fantasy world, and little is real in that.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176080 Sep 1, 2013
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/72-blacks-bo...
This issue entered the public consciousness in 1965,[under President Johnson] when a now famous government report by future senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan described a “tangle of pathology” among blacks that fed a 24 percent black “illegitimacy” rate. The white rate then was 4 percent.

I’m not sure what’s shocking: That the rate for blacks has tripled in my lifetime or that whites have now surpassed the level of pathology Moynihan described.
Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176081 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It boils down to if you believe there was a purpose to our creation. We ARE created, matters not how or by what.
If your life has no purpose, why do you go through the struggles? Why do you worry about the here and now and the future if it is ultimately meaningless? Gets too much and you can put yourself to eternal sleep in a hurry, you wouldn't be missing a thing except pain and anguish, right?
Life's great! Why would I want it to end?

So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#176082 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c om/72-blacks-born-to-unwed-mot hers/
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Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!
The Rapture, right?
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#176083 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c om/72-blacks-born-to-unwed-mot hers/
<quoted text>
Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!
The poster RR noted that satans influence started ramping up in 1962

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176084 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Life's great! Why would I want it to end?
So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.
If all you have is sarcasm then perhaps you should try comedy because no one is going to take you seriously. Igor

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#176085 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Life's great! Why would I want it to end?
So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.
Life is great for you now. What if that changes?

What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?

The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.

It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.

Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#176086 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Life is great for you now. What if that changes?
What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?
The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.
It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.
Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
what are examples of quick painless exits?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176087 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Life is great for you now. What if that changes?
What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?
The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.
It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.
Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
Maybe your life is miserable but mines great. Why would I want it to end?

Sure this life's not going to last forever but is worrying about death going to change anything? No!
So I'll enjoy it while I can and when death approaches, at least I'll know I enjoyed my time.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176088 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> If all you have is sarcasm then perhaps you should try comedy because no one is going to take you seriously. Igor
I wasn't joking.
Just what is your purpose in life?
Do you really have one?

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#176089 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Maybe your life is miserable but mines great. Why would I want it to end?
Sure this life's not going to last forever but is worrying about death going to change anything? No!
So I'll enjoy it while I can and when death approaches, at least I'll know I enjoyed my time.
You dodged again.

Doesn't mean shit if you enjoyed it or not. You might not even get the chance.

You want to live because you have something to lose. Take that away, what reason do you have left?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#176090 Sep 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Is that a new record for a godbot?
At least three (maybe four) false statements in one go?
:)
Not even close to a record. I have seen some make four errors in one sentence.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176091 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You dodged again.
Doesn't mean shit if you enjoyed it or not. You might not even get the chance.
You want to live because you have something to lose. Take that away, what reason do you have left?
Don't be stupid! How can enjoying life not mean anything?
Life's an experience. Enjoy the ride.

So what's your purpose in life? I'm telling you now you can't give me one that's not irrational.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176092 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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And that solves what?
It explains.
So now you have to explain how an incredibly powerful and intelligent entity just exists outside of time without explanation but some cause of the universe can't.
No i really don't. Your question has to do with solving and then you jump to explaining.
A God isn't nothing, he's a something and he does need to be explained.
Well if you ask a Christian then start with the bodily resurrection and teachings of Jesus Christ. Truth does not change.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#176093 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Don't be stupid! How can enjoying life not mean anything?
Life's an experience. Enjoy the ride.
So what's your purpose in life? I'm telling you now you can't give me one that's not irrational.
You can't answer the question.

You don't know what you believe or not believe in.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176094 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Not even close to a record. I have seen some make four errors in one sentence.
polymath really! The way the commercials here operate, they cause mistakes. You're typing away and a commercial will cause stoppage. Only Atheist bring that up here on topix all others understand what happened. I caught you guys having the same problem. It's not note worthy.

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