Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#172080 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
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I'm with you there. I don't approve of the televangelists on mainstream TV today. They're all just a rehash of Jimmy Swaggart, James and Tammy Baker, and the rest who misrepresented Christianity.
Today's generation are Joyce Meyer, Joel Olsteen, and Creflo Dollar.
"Everybody is too focused on finding out everything about all things today. People are too focused on dissecting every little bit of knowledge they can find about everything on and outside - this earth, and this isn't good. We need to have some things in life that remain unknown. We call this trust. This is what is called faith , and trust or faith is necessary to know god" -- Joyce Meyer 12-21-2005

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#172081 Jul 15, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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Are you back, The Dave?
The Dave Nelson is in suspended agitation right now.

He'll be back.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#172082 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
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I think you misunderstood my point. The out-of-towner was the smug arrogant one, and was attempting to belittle the store owner insidiously. He was being sneaky and disrespectful, and not appreciating that the store owner was allowing him to be in his store in the first place. The smug out-of-towner didn't even connect the name of the store with his own behavior. "Humble Inn" A play on the word "humbling." When somebody is humbled, they realize they may have been too cocky. Too smug. Too condescending. So, the store owner gave him a second chance to appreciate what had already been in front of him. The out-of-towner took too long to realize his mistake. He arrived just as the store owner was locking up for the night. The out-of-towner shouldn't have been so cocky and arrogant.
That's the lesson. And it's a good one.
I found the shop-owner to be the sneaky and disrespectful one. He was the one that sent a customer on a long journey only to bring him back to the very same store. The shop owner was the one that seems to think he knows better than the customer what is good for the customer. And that is arrogance. The shop clearly didn't have what the customer wanted, yet the shop owner, promising a better shop, wastes the time of the customer and then gives exactly what was already determined to be insufficient.

Perhaps the shop owner saw the customer as being smug and cocky when he simply knew what he wanted and found the shop didn't have it. It seems to me that it was the shop owner that sought to belittle the customer, not the other way around.

Your lesson is mixed up.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172083 Jul 15, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Honey...it doesn't take a christian to know that if "god" did exist...he stopped listening to you a long time ago.
so darling you admit GOD exist??? it is finish

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172084 Jul 15, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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Shoo you yellow bellied varmant...back to the christian forum with you...or do they not like you over there either??? lol
are you tired of being owned by the Clown?

CLOWN OWNAGE
VICTORY

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172085 Jul 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
And what church do you attend again? It seems you are deeply ashamed of it.
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not at all its a christian church... have you ever attended a church???

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172086 Jul 15, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Hush, Tard
no

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172087 Jul 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Shall I copy n paste some of his quotes for you to defend? I will if you actually respond and not cower away as you are so prone to do.
The NT is a myth that follows in the footsteps of dozens of other savior son of god stories from the region.
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you're a hater and a bigot! shall I copy & paste your hate

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172088 Jul 15, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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That should be, "Do you think ***YOU'RE*** educated on the universe?"
I mean, if you're going to challenge people's educational standards...please show a scintilla of your own....education, that is;0)
If yours are shut your pie hole

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172089 Jul 15, 2013
albtraum wrote:
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One would think that people who are convinced that they are going to a place where the streets are paved with gold (what good's it going to do them?) and lie around on clouds playing the harp for a million gazillion years wouldn't be so afraid to die....wouldn't they?
so you're not afraid to die huh? what faith you have!

ITS CALLED CLOWN OWNAGE!

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#172090 Jul 15, 2013
Its off to work I go! Hey all my atheist peeps see my middle finger? I shall return!

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#172091 Jul 15, 2013
Probably having his diaper changed.
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>The Dave Nelson is in suspended agitation right now.

He'll be back.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#172092 Jul 15, 2013
Stop cowering there are thousands of variations of Christian churches from catholic to Mormon.

Which Christian denomination do you belong to.

Isn't it funny how so many Christholes are to scared to say what religion they belong to on here? Seriously I laugh at their humiliation.
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>not at all its a christian church... have you ever attended a church???

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#172093 Jul 15, 2013
Your church teaches you it's okay to use the middle finger? No wonder you are ashamed to say what church you go to. It must not be much of a church from the way you turned out.
T-Town Clown wrote:
Its off to work I go! Hey all my atheist peeps see my middle finger? I shall return!

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#172094 Jul 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Shall I copy n paste some of his quotes for you to defend? I will if you actually respond and not cower away as you are so prone to do.
Cower away? How do you come to the conclusion that I cower away?
Is it because I don't spend 24/7 on here? Is it because I don't devote all of my attention to your concerns? Is it because I don't answer your concerns or challenges in the manner you would expect me to?

Would you please clarify your statement?
Givemeliberty wrote:
The NT is a myth that follows in the footsteps of dozens of other savior son of god stories from the region.
Okay, how did you come to that conclusion?

Before you answer, consider the following.

The 1898 novel "Wreck of the Titan" was a fictitious story penned by
American novelist Morgan Robertson. The story was about the largest ocean-liner ever built. In the novel, the Titan hit an iceberg on it's maiden voyage, and sank with a horrible loss of life. It was a fictitious story published 17 years before the Titanic.

In 1915, the ocean liner Titanic (notice the first six letters?) was commissioned and was the largest passenger ship in existence at that time. On it's maiden voyage, it struck an iceberg and sank with a horrible loss of life. This is a real historical event that was written about. The details became known because there were survivors who described what they saw.

So my next question is this:

Fictitious stories of ships hitting icebergs were common in the late 19th century and early 20th century. There are other stories very similar to this one.*Did this novel "Wreck of the Titan" influence the historical events of the sinking of the Titanic?*

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#172095 Jul 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Probably having his diaper changed.
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No, I am waiting for your diaper to be changed.

You are a little stinky butt.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172096 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
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Fraudulent? Hardly. Jesus toyed with the Pharisees during His ministry because they thought they knew everything, and because of their self-righteous bigotry. The Pharisees were the "Fundies" of their day. To people struggling with doubts (atheists, skeptics, cynics) he was much more patient and understanding. Jesus only toyed with those who thought they were better than others. He toyed with Pontius Pilate even while being tried in a capital case.
I would expect better from a ... god. Even one in the guise of a man.

After all-- a god has all of human history to draw on, for examples of rebuttals.

Moreover? An actual **god** would have **godly** replies to even the most low-brow commentary.

Did Jesus?

No.

Not at all, really. Very human he was-- he even got mad at a fig, for failing to produce fruit out of season-- and he, in his human weakness, cursed it.

Jesus was just a man, after all-- not a god.

And it showed.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172097 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
God uses ambiguity not to deceive or toy with true seekers, but to separate those who truly want to understand, from those who don't want to understand or those who think they don't need to.
So, basically, you are saying your god is just a d!ck?

For that **is** what you just said above:

"Neener-neener-neener! If you are not fooled by the obscure and deliberately obfuscated non-message? OFF TO HELL WITH YOU!"

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172098 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
There's nothing fraudulent about compelling people to really dig down deep for the truth.
Actually?

That is **exactly** the definition of fraud!

Since, as you believe, the RESULTS are so DIRE.

If the end result did not end in infinite torture?

You **might** have a slight case....

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172099 Jul 15, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
Okay, what makes you think T-Town is "hate filled?"
Use advanced google. Google my name and his.

You will be rewarded with such **hate** from him as you've never experienced.

Seriously-- he has spewed some of the most nasty filth on Topix-- a lot of it got deleted by mods, so heinous it was.

But that does seem to be the most common reaction I get from you True Believers™-- hate-spew.

You appear to be an exception, which is why I bothered to make a thoughtful reply.

Time will tell, though, whether you fall into the character I've come to expect, or if you remain civil.

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