Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#170083 Jun 25, 2013
I got a JW visit recently. Showed them the Mandelbrot set on my laptop. Who needs a made up god to demonstrate complexity?
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
And then thumb their noses at them.
I spent about 20 minutes entertaining some Jehovah's this morning.
T'were a hoot.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170085 Jun 25, 2013
Projection.

Isaiah 11:12 the earth is square or rectangle.

Also found in revelation 7:1

And job 38:13

And Jeremiah 16:19

The earth rests in top of pillars Job 9:6
The earth is built on top Of a foundation? Job 38:4

Plus your Isaiah passage says a circle not a 3d sphere :)

Shall I humiliate you more?
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The bible says the earth is round (Isaiah 40:22) and "hangs the earth upon nothing". Job 26:7.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170086 Jun 25, 2013
How is Sweden doing?
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>So this humanistic society founded on atheism that you lift up as a paragon of virtue, what went wrong with it in the Soviet Union?

Haven't we tried that experiment before?

Didn't work.

Morality will never change because the human heart is so wicked and selfish.

The only thing that will resolve the human heart and sin issue is total destruction.

Even if God was not going to step in and resolve that, man would do it to himself.

If you think God is the problem, you are mightily deceived, man needs no help to be evil.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#170087 Jun 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I got a JW visit recently. Showed them the Mandelbrot set on my laptop. Who needs a made up god to demonstrate complexity?
I invited them in, but I guess they're not allowed to enter homes anymore.

So I just kept cleaning my bird's cage and my breezeway while I talked to them.

They were polite, but they wouldn't respond to questions and kept asking me to let them finish when they had some bible quote to explain.

They wouldn't let go of "gay is a choice". And wouldn't give me a clear answer on what god thought about sexually active gays.

They would go as far as saying that there's no permanent hell. Just enough to make you straight if you were gay.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170088 Jun 25, 2013
You mean in your mind you dealt with it?

So many scriptures stating the earth is flat, square, has edges, rests on top of pillars... Shall I go on?

Oh and to solve an unsolved murder mystery take a cow and kill it by the river. Lol!

This is your book of ultimate knowledge and authority? Get real!

Mankind is growing up and the time has come to put away such childish things.
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>That argument has been dealt with so many times, it does not even merit a response.

You can find plenty of rational responses to this irrational objection on the internet.

I won't be wasting time with it.:-)

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170089 Jun 25, 2013
Wrong. People of reason base their decisions on facts and data as it comes not holding to an antiquated superstitious mindset.
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>So you reject Presuppositionalism as valid?

You realise of course that Presuppositionalism is inherent in many branches of philosophy, not just Christian Philosophy?

It is actually foundational to all knowledge.

Deny that, deny knowledge.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170090 Jun 25, 2013
No because it has been disproven.
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>You are aware that this is a logical fallacy don't you?

Assuming that because knowledge is old, it is therefore fallacious?

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170091 Jun 25, 2013
We have a winner! Congratulations you have just won the Internet!:)
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>So say's the creator of word salads and the king kahuna of garbage
pseudoscience essays.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#170092 Jun 25, 2013
However you spell it your screen name, it represents the world's most brutal mass murderers in all history, who proudly killed in the name of Jesus.

They made Hitler and Stalin look like jokes when it comes to mass killing.
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>It can be spelled:

Tzar
Tsar
Csar
Czar

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#170093 Jun 25, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
We have a winner! Congratulations you have just won the Internet!:)
<quoted text>
How much will I have to pay for that/lol

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#170094 Jun 25, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me your proof of these 3 Myths.
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
Those are not our beliefs. They are made up by you.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#170095 Jun 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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For who?
Who is it ok for?
Don't you see the madness in the world?
Do you live in denial of that?
Christianity accounts and supplies the solution for this madness.
If you truly believe in a pollyanna atheism that does not face reality, then are you not also a part of that madness?
What is your solution for the madness in the world?
What does atheism offer, other than a nihilistic acceptance of the futility of humanity?
It offers a solution? Where's peace on earth then? Oh yeah.. it's "coming soon." LOL.

Is life after death required for life to have meaning? Why must we be immortal to assign value to our experiences? Why do bad things require us to believe in eternal rewards and punishments?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#170096 Jun 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
<quoted text>
You are aware that this is a logical fallacy don't you?
Assuming that because knowledge is old, it is therefore fallacious?
No, I'm assuming that because the knowledge is demonstrably false and morally repugnant that it is fallacious. You latched on to one word of my comment and made it out to be the only thing I said. Most of your book is morally reprehensible, and the good parts can be had without christianity. Basically, your religion offers nothing special that we can't get elsewhere.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#170097 Jun 25, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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You present an idead in your argument that men have different biases.
Whilst that is indeed true on a socialogical level, where it falls down is that it does not recognize the universality of the sin problem that all humanity suffers from.
One inherent trait of that sinfulness, or abberation, is that it is experienced by all humanity.
With that in mind, it then makes it very difficult to trust "group think", when "group think" has the same problem in every individual.
It is that inherent problem in humanity that fuels the war against truth, logic and knowledge, which are all inherent from God.
Mankind is born with the propensity to fight against God, whom it also knows exists.
So when men agree on something that attacks God, it is not a great surprise that we would indeed see unity in rejection of God.
Here's a tip. Your personal religiously indoctrinated opinion that all men are eternally tainted by sin does not belong in a "rational" argument.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#170098 Jun 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
timn17 wrote: "Answersingenesis " is an atheist site? Your religion has utterly obliterated your mind.
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
<quoted text>
By T-Towns logic, if it is capable of determining something logically that conflicts with his fantasy.......
It's atheist!
I think you may have just made a breakthrough into the foundations of christian thought.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#170099 Jun 25, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I think you may have just made a breakthrough into the foundations of christian thought.
Christians and thinking doesn't seem to belong in the same sentence?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170100 Jun 25, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
What's wrong with being gay? It's alot better than being a clown.
The scripture you like to quote, will let you know

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170101 Jun 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Christians and thinking doesn't seem to belong in the same sentence?
atheist and being a whimp/sissy belong in the same sentence

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170102 Jun 25, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Wrong. People of reason base their decisions on facts and data as it comes not holding to an antiquated superstitious mindset.
<quoted text>
The bible is the truth !!!!!! you are just dumb

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170103 Jun 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
DK Clunt doesn't use science to post on the internet.
DK Clunt uses two chalices of blood from his dead ex.
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you are evil... and a hater... atheist puke

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