Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Favorite Adversary

Brooklyn, NY

#169666 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.
They will enter a building and negotiate elevators, escalators, hallways, and doors on the right or left to get what they seek and assume it is quite normal. That is the structure of their universe.
But they expect a supreme deity that constructed one to deliver to their own door.
Presumptuous, and quite dumb.
I know, right? lol

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#169667 Jun 22, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> that was to Dave Nelson. I still do not get your way of thinking or replying to people. I wrote you a long serious comment and asked you for an explanation, over on the thread about Atheists on the March in America, or some such title - which I think it is silly, since the onward christian soldiers mentality seems to be silly, and that seems to be a copycat type title, which no sensible atheist would want to do.
I do not think Dave Nelson has existed since the beginning of recorded time, so you at least should have written "you believers in some god or other" rather than merely you.
Also you seem to think insults and calling folks liars is an acceptable approach for a presumably rational atheist. I think it gives a very bad example of atheism, and requires other atheists to denounce you and your tactics - which is too bad, since you are capable of making rational arguments against religious beliefs.
I do not think that you know there is no God - if you say you do, then the burden of proof is upon you. You are very arrogant in saying that if someone disagrees with you, the burden of proof is on that person. If you state there is no God, the burden of proof is on you, not on the person who disagrees with you. I wish you would go read my comment on that other thread and finally explain yourself either here or there.
Why do you take the burden of proof on yourself by making a claim that there is no God and that you know it?? Why do you think you can get by with telling everyone who disagrees with your assertion that the burden of proof is on him or her? Why do you prefer insulting people? Why do you like to call people liars when that term usually implies a deliberate telling of something they know to be false - don't you think any of them are actually dumb enought to believe it is true?
I think you are a very emotionally immature person, full of hostilities and arrogance. I think you do harm to the atheist "cause" and argument. I think you are quite capable of doing much better, by debunking the views of believers with sensible arguments - and I wonder why you don't do that. I also wonder why you will not assume the burden of proof when you claim to know there is no God. If you made any claim, wouldn't the burden of proof be on you, instead of the person who disagrees with you?
I wonder how you were raised. You seem to have the egocentricity of a toddler. a nasty one at that. grow up. you seem to think the only sign of maturity is your obscenity and your insults. why don't you use the rational mind which one suspects you have? are you terribly angry or unhappy or both, and taking it out on folks on topix?
Skeptic's neural network got corroded. Some flaky connections resulted, resulting in a confused interface with reality. He can't help it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#169668 Jun 22, 2013
Favorite Adversary wrote:
<quoted text>
A God who wants to work through people. How would humanity learn if God did everything for us, instead of through us? By passing on His word through us, we think about it. Then it passes from thought to action. It causes a change of heart if we choose to believe. We then improve our lives not because we're told to, but out of appreciation for what has been done for us.
So your god makes everyone flawed then tells these flawed people to write a book about this god during a time when barbaric acts were considered a good thing and then expected the species to accept this garbage after we become more intelligent. Then you claim that this book, which was written by flawed beings and filled with a bunch of barbaric commands, is somehow more valid what is said of Zeus, Apollo, Imhotep, Ra, Bastet, Nyarlethotep, Cthulhu, and the millions of other gods.

Yeah, not buying it, if your god is real, he's a moron and should not be worshiped on those grounds alone.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#169669 Jun 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Yet, your bibles say that all other such "natural reactions" are sins. Funny that.
No it doesn't

Quack Quack

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#169670 Jun 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>What kind of god would entrust these mere mortals with the duty of passing on it's words?
The God of Abraham.

Quack Quack

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#169671 Jun 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
So your god makes everyone flawed then tells these flawed people to write a book about this god during a time when barbaric acts were considered a good thing and then expected the species to accept this garbage after we become more intelligent. Then you claim that this book, which was written by flawed beings and filled with a bunch of barbaric commands, is somehow more valid what is said of Zeus, Apollo, Imhotep, Ra, Bastet, Nyarlethotep, Cthulhu, and the millions of other gods.
Yeah, not buying it, if your god is real, he's a moron and should not be worshiped on those grounds alone.
Are you arguing against the existence of the Abrahamic deity, or the existence of any deity, intelligent designer, or the supernatural period?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#169672 Jun 22, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
The God of Abraham.
Quack Quack
Then that god is an idiot.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

the alternate future

#169674 Jun 22, 2013
I think (she) is arguing against the existence of any type of God. The Abrahamic deity, I can safely say, does not exist. Thank goodness, because that deity is not a very benevolent one.

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#169675 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.
They will enter a building and negotiate elevators, escalators, hallways, and doors on the right or left to get what they seek and assume it is quite normal. That is the structure of their universe.
But they expect a supreme deity that constructed one to deliver to their own door.
Presumptuous, and quite dumb.
Poor topix religatards,
they can't use the brains their god didn't give them.

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#169676 Jun 22, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
I think (she) is arguing against the existence of any type of God. The Abrahamic deity, I can safely say, does not exist. Thank goodness, because that deity is not a very benevolent one.
He got run over by an iron chariot.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#169677 Jun 22, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
I think (she) is arguing against the existence of any type of God. The Abrahamic deity, I can safely say, does not exist. Thank goodness, because that deity is not a very benevolent one.
Actually, any of the gods proposed could fit my descriptive, but that's all. ;)

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#169679 Jun 22, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> well, I need to read more of your comments to see your point here. If you imply that a relatively decent god created relatively rational human beings, who will use better and better tools to "see everything" (do you mean understand everything?) in the universe (do you include a possible multiverse?) I doubt such a being exists, or that mankind is such a creation.
Agreed

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#169680 Jun 22, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
I think (she) is arguing against the existence of any type of God. The Abrahamic deity, I can safely say, does not exist. Thank goodness, because that deity is not a very benevolent one.
In the beginning the description of it may have been accurate in a metaphorical way, but the description of it was quickly perverted to advance the interests of a particular group. That wouldn't make the original any less real, just discredited.

Man has a way of doing that. Including secularists and the noble ideas they profess.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#169681 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Poor topix religatards,
they can't use the brains their god didn't give them.
Were any of your ancestors religatards, Aura?

You are a miracle baby?

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#169682 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Were any of your ancestors religatards, Aura?
You are a miracle baby?

All of them Dave , you know non belief in America is a small but growing percentage. But 30 years ago probably like 1%.
Most everyone I know is religious, and most ridiculously so.
See Jesus on the cheese toast, and floating in the coffee religiousnutty.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#169683 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poor Topix atheists.
They will enter a building and negotiate elevators, escalators, hallways, and doors on the right or left to get what they seek and assume it is quite normal. That is the structure of their universe.
But they expect a supreme deity that constructed one to deliver to their own door.
Presumptuous, and quite dumb.
Actually, I for one don't expect a supreme deity at all.

Let alone a Domino's Pizza deity.

I'm more than satisfied living my life to the fullest in the natural world.
Joe Fortuna

Arcata, CA

#169684 Jun 22, 2013
ignorance is bliss86 wrote:
<quoted text>
there is no faith involved in science only factual evidence when chemist makes a medication to send to the pharmacy they dont have "faith" that it will work when sound is created scientist dont have "faith" that the sound waves will travel they know adsacly what will happen
Sure there is, sure there is a lot of evidence that points towards evolution, but there are a few gabs, but they have faith that their theories are right and sooner are later the evidence will be found. Everyoneone has faith about something.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#169685 Jun 22, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
People get sensitized and reactive when they are called idiots and names for their beliefs. That is why I react to these Topix atheist idiots. I started out and made a mistake of not calling theists idiots and they jumped on me. They made me do it.
But, back to worshiping men, which Topix atheists do, I haveone question I would like them to answer.
Given that every government has a chief executive, a top dog that runs it, even democracies, I would like to know what man or woman alive today would they trust their lives and happiness to by giving them absolute authority over such. Such an individual, or small group of individuals, will determine morals, correct thinking, and all other aspects deemed NECESSARY at the time for smooth social advancement. Those leaders will be answerable only to themselves.
Who is their Superhero?
<The Dave Nelson> "Pick me, pick me, pick me...please someone say my name..."
Joe Fortuna

Arcata, CA

#169686 Jun 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Spider-Man.
Personal, I make those choices for myself, or at least I fight to make them for myself.
Joe Fortuna

Arcata, CA

#169687 Jun 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Anger is not a sin, it is a natural reaction and an emotion. We cannot control the way we feel. But the way we respond to that anger we can control. God is "slow to anger" and doesn't let it rule her spirit.
Tell that to the Pharaoh durning the time of Mosses, if you believe in that book. Her spirit seemed a little out of control.

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