Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Jun 16, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a extremely bad dream.
He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.
What cartoon did you see that in?
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Givemeliberty wrote:
No it was a Jewish judge in the OT. I guess you have never read it.
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If it's in there I'm sure I've read it but it escapes me. I concentrate on the Law and the Prophets. You're also blaming God for the actions of human beings. We are like God in that we have free will. When one human being murders another, it's not Gods' fault.

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atheism is evil wrote:
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Wrong.
Saying "wrong" doesn't make me incorrect. If the future is known, it cannot change, for if it can change, then it is not known.
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Jun 16, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> What cartoon did you see that in?
;)

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have you noticed how mad atheists are all the time?
yes

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atheism is evil wrote:
<quoted text>have you noticed how mad atheists are all the time?
No.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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Saying "wrong" doesn't make me incorrect. If the future is known, it cannot change, for if it can change, then it is not known.
God knows all

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I am not a Christian, Skeptic and do not accept any of their doctrine. Every time a Christian invents a new theology, they have to rewrite the bible to fit their delusions. The bible (OT) is the word of God and the most accurate English translation is the OKJV. All the other English versions are Christian interpretations.
I don't believe you

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Doctor Jordan wrote:
<quoted text>That is not true at all. When you look at your past, choices that were made, did you have freedom of choice? Yes, but no matter how many times you look at the past choices they remain the same. You now do not have freedom of choice over your past, but you still had freedom of choice then. Choice is a now thing, not past and not future.

Here is a game: Move your hand up or down, keep changing. The second after you have moved it in the chosen direction, change your mind. Go faster. Not faster enough, faster. Darn, you never seem to catch up to the choice you made.
Good.

So there is no omniscient god.

Congratulations.

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The first Christians were told they needed to literally eat Jesus' body and drink his blood to be "saved". God does not approve of human sacrifice and the consumption of blood is expressly forbidden. Psalm 16:4 "Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take up their names into my lips". It's a sin to even speak the name of another god.
Catholics believe in transubstantiation.

I.e., the host eaten at communion is the ACTUAL body of Christ and the wine is the ACTUAL blood of Christ.

Cannibals.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>There's no such thing as freedom of choice in a universe governed by an omnipotent, omniscient deity.
you're dumb

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Aerobatty wrote:
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No.
I agree with you atheist are not good peeps

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Aerobatty wrote:
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Good.
So there is no omniscient god.
Congratulations.
what does the bible say? thats the true word

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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There's no such thing as god and you are mentally ill. Atheists will never follow your hateful cult.
You must be psychic, Miss Cleo. How can you tell what goofy atheist will do??????

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Jun 16, 2013
 
In that case the bible says God deceived the prophet Jeremiah.

That's the true word.
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<quoted text>what does the bible say? thats the true word

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Dave, I used to think that you were just a goofball, but now it seems you are legitimately crazy. Are you so scared of death that you have to invent these afterlife fantasies? Do you really think you're going to become a roving EM ball after you die, free to "possess" people and live through them?
I had a dress rehearsal for it. Not scared as you think, but aware of what happens. You are the one in total ignorance.

Read up on your laws of conservation of matter and energy. You claim your consciousness is but a result of mass and energy being channeled in a particular manner. A personalized nuclear and EM signature. You claim to understand physics. Do a little thinking.

You can see the body laying there, a collection of mass with the energy it channeled switched off. Dead mass, so to speak. You may have experienced the energy that carcass emanated before it switched off. That EM signature is what animated it. You can see the carcass, but you can't see the energy that was there. It collapsed.

Life dies too quick for it to be strictly a material phenomenon. A level is reached, a switch is thrown, and the body is dead meat. Your belief would require a very long time for the mass to quit producing and channeling energy, and thus consciousness.

I've mentioned space being the ground state of this material world, mass being just a foam blown up in it. Collapsing the foam just sends it somewhere else.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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I had a dress rehearsal for it. Not scared as you think, but aware of what happens. You are the one in total ignorance.
Read up on your laws of conservation of matter and energy. You claim your consciousness is but a result of mass and energy being channeled in a particular manner. A personalized nuclear and EM signature. You claim to understand physics. Do a little thinking.
You can see the body laying there, a collection of mass with the energy it channeled switched off. Dead mass, so to speak. You may have experienced the energy that carcass emanated before it switched off. That EM signature is what animated it. You can see the carcass, but you can't see the energy that was there. It collapsed.
Life dies too quick for it to be strictly a material phenomenon. A level is reached, a switch is thrown, and the body is dead meat. Your belief would require a very long time for the mass to quit producing and channeling energy, and thus consciousness.
I've mentioned space being the ground state of this material world, mass being just a foam blown up in it. Collapsing the foam just sends it somewhere else.
Failed antiscience liar-troll with no proof of god babbling on endlessly about his hallucinated cult bullsh*t.

Already been confronted about having no proof of god whatsoever.

Dave believes that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs and that fossil arent really there.

Only an idiot denies evolution - physical evidence.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Failed antiscience liar-troll with no proof of god babbling on endlessly about his hallucinated cult bullsh*t.
Already been confronted about having no proof of god whatsoever.
Dave believes that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs and that fossil arent really there.
Only an idiot denies evolution - physical evidence.
The world would be a blissful place if everyone had your mind.

Find a museum of old cars or computers or most examples of technology. Tear them apart and see how they were assembled. You will see evolution.

Now search for the original factory and designers.

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T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>God knows all
Then nothing can change, that means no free will.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
In that case the bible says God deceived the prophet Jeremiah.
That's the true word.
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Jeremiah 20 go read it again!!!! 1cor 2-14 says you don't understand the word... this proves it... I love it when a atheist quotes scripture that he don't believe... stay off them gay atheist sites boy you hear me... thats all I need is a atheist preaching the HOLY WORD OF GOD TO BRO. CLOWNIE... why lord??? I told you Clownie they were dumb!!! You did LORD... again you told me the truth...

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