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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#166202 May 28, 2013
Believe and recieve!!! doubt and do without!!
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#166203 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitchens was a great speaker and a great man, he is missed. Like Plato he will be remembered for as long as humans continue to exist.
Take a gander at this site.
Robert Green Ingersoll was a fantastic orator.
He was called the great agnostic

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/ro...

Excerpt

For many years I have regarded the Pentateuch simply as a
record of a barbarous people, in which are found a great number of
the ceremonies of savagery, many absurd and unjust laws, and
thousands of ideas inconsistent with known and demonstrated facts.
To me it seemed almost a crime to teach that this record was
written by inspired men; that slavery, polygamy, wars of conquest
and extermination were right, and that there was a time when men
could win the approbation of infinite Intelligence, Justice, and
Mercy, by violating maidens and by butchering babes. To me it
seemed more reasonable that savage men had made these laws; and I
endeavored in a lecture, entitled "Some Mistakes of Moses," to
point out some of the errors, contradictions, and impossibilities
contained in the Pentateuch. The lecture was never written and
consequently never delivered twice the same. On several occasions
it was reported and published without consent, and without
revision. All these publications were grossly and glaringly
incorrect. As published, they have been answered several hundred
times, and many of the clergy are still engaged in the great work.
To keep these reverend gentlemen from wasting their talents on the
mistakes of reporters and printers, I concluded to publish the
principal points in all my lectures on this subject. And here, it
may be proper for one to say, that arguments cannot be answered by
personal abuse; that there is no logic in slander, and that
falsehood, in the long run, defeats itself, People who love their
enemies should, at least, tell the truth about their friends.
Should it turn out that I am the worst man in the whole world, the
story of the flood will remain just as improbable as before, and
the contradictions of the Pentateuch will still demand an
explanation.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#166204 May 28, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>so will Jesus Christ
So will Gandalf and Zeus.

Lots of fictional characters are remembered throughout time.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#166205 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitchens was a great speaker and a great man, he is missed. Like Plato he will be remembered for as long as humans continue to exist.
Who is Hitchens ? Is he a mythic figure known only from literature like Plato and Jesus ?

<smile>

"I am an unbiased thorn."

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#166206 May 28, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Waarom vraag je me plagen?
Je weet dat ik hou van marihuana elke kleur!
IK wist dat hij kwam in 'Goud,' IK wist niet dat dat kwam zo veel mooie kleuren ... Het lijkt bijna gespoten! Lol Heb je een leuk weekend?

:)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#166207 May 28, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>so will Jesus Christ
We have evidence that Hitchens existed though, the two are not comparable.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#166208 May 28, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>if you ask a question like that! you would understand the answer..
Code for "I don't have an answer. That I'm prepared to give, anyway."

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#166209 May 28, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is Hitchens ? Is he a mythic figure known only from literature like Plato and Jesus ?
<smile>
"I am an unbiased thorn."
For a probable fictional character though, Plato was still a bit more fascinating than Jesus. ;)

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#166210 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a huge Harris fan, personally, I think he's a bit too fanatical at times. Hitchens thought out what he would say, and often stuck to the facts, while Harris seems more emotionally attached to his assertions. But, we all have our own preferences.
honestly i though hitchens was very real with what he said on a basic level. harris doesnt know how to follow logic very well and often words himself ito a corner philosophically. and even me as a christian found myself respecting the hitchman for his brutal honesty lol.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#166211 May 28, 2013
Ray puelerico wrote:
<quoted text>
honestly i though hitchens was very real with what he said on a basic level. harris doesnt know how to follow logic very well and often words himself ito a corner philosophically. and even me as a christian found myself respecting the hitchman for his brutal honesty lol.
Hitchens was brilliant, it's sad what he went through at the end of his life too, yet he kept on with courage and a strength few people demonstrate. You bring up the point that makes me miss his speeches most, I hold honesty above all other qualities in a human, and he was brutally honest.

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#166212 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitchens was brilliant, it's sad what he went through at the end of his life too, yet he kept on with courage and a strength few people demonstrate. You bring up the point that makes me miss his speeches most, I hold honesty above all other qualities in a human, and he was brutally honest.
definately. i couldnt help but respect the man even if i disagreed with him. he was honest, a great writer, very intellegent, and lets not forget his accent was awesome lol. he was a debater in his own class, something harris, loftus, or any other debater ive heard could never compare. he definately is missed. it sucks that he went the way he did. his voice was a strong one. one that again,i had much respect for.
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#166213 May 28, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>
IK wist dat hij kwam in 'Goud,' IK wist niet dat dat kwam zo veel mooie kleuren ... Het lijkt bijna gespoten! Lol Heb je een leuk weekend?
:)
Dat was een typo! ;(

Moeten hebben een leuk weekend gehad.

Ik ben werkzaam in de bergen deze week.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#166214 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitchens was brilliant, it's sad what he went through at the end of his life too, yet he kept on with courage and a strength few people demonstrate. You bring up the point that makes me miss his speeches most, I hold honesty above all other qualities in a human, and he was brutally honest.
I gotta see the ethics and the politics first, before I admire someone, however brilliant.I also want to see the style of the honesty, and make sure the brutality of it was not nasty to people who did not ask for it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#166215 May 28, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
Believe and recieve!!! doubt and do without!!
Scary.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#166216 May 28, 2013
Ray puelerico wrote:
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again the idea that God exists can be defended through various arguments, leaving his existance in dispute. therefor the facts arent so clear cut. so the absence of evidence can not equal evidence of absence. second, personal experience is still a viable peice of evidence unless you can come up with comprehencive defeaters of those experiences. people dont have reason to doubt personal experience of every day matters until the are presented with defeaters of those experiences. and as far as morals go,we can discuss that further if youd like. i firmly believe that morals are a pretty strong indicator of the existnce of God.
All of those various arguments involving the existence of God, are arguments without facts, so become totally worthless. The LACK of facts concerning the existence of God is very clear cut, there are none.

Of course it depends on what kind of personal experience a person has. if someone told me they were at the beach and saw a whale breaching off shore i would lean toward believing them as this is something that has certainly happened in the past on a number of occasions, and all of the elements of the story grounded in reality. Now if you told me God came down last night and spoke to you and then physically touched you on the head, I would be compelled to not believe you as none of the elements are grounded in reality. I would simply chalk it up to you having a serious delusion. The mental institutions are full of people who will swear that there are demons around every corner, would you accept these personal experiences as factual?

Mankind has been on the planet for approximately 200,000 give or take. Jesus carrying the word of God appeared a mere 2,000 years ago. Where did mankind draw his morals for some 198,000 years? Cannibalism is view by our present society as highly immoral, but not that long ago in New Guinea, it was considered appropriate and a means of drawing strength from your enemies. There are very few moral absolutes.

If one were to combine the idea that morals are an indicator for the existence of God and the writings found in the bible which are said to be the word of God, then contradictions emerge. Without going into all of the immorality found in the bible, we only have to look at the FACT that God condones slavery. Most would agree that regardless of the society, one person owning another and imposing their will on them is immoral.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#166217 May 28, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I gotta see the ethics and the politics first, before I admire someone, however brilliant.I also want to see the style of the honesty, and make sure the brutality of it was not nasty to people who did not ask for it.
I have a problem with lying to anyone for any reason. I cannot do it, and thus hold anyone who is always honest in high regards because of that. I had made a career out of lying, and it weighs heavy on me now, I even lied when I was young to avoid being harmed, but now I realize that those lies also harmed me more than I would have been had I told the truth. Ethical behavior is important, but many people can lie and seem ethical because of the lie, when a person is brutally honest, you know their ethics are what they claim them to be. Politics is a mess anyway, so I disregard that completely.

Since: May 13

Hightstown, NJ

#166218 May 28, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> I gotta see the ethics and the politics first, before I admire someone, however brilliant.I also want to see the style of the honesty, and make sure the brutality of it was not nasty to people who did not ask for it.
as a debater, hitchens was a devestating attacker. but in his liffe, he was described as a great guy. he was honest enough to make one squirm lol. i respect him for his way, although i wouldnt go as fare as to admire all his ways. that being said, ill still miss his debates.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#166220 May 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Scary.
I tell you when it will be scary! being on your death bed crying Jesus, I didn't mean it I-I-I was just doing what that ol devil told me to do... Im so sorry... I-I-I want to be on your side Jesus not that mean ol devil... I love you

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#166221 May 28, 2013
kadtrack wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=LSjTpy09KQ g No Luck
No Faith needed Religon is crap
you know this how?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#166222 May 28, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Code for "I don't have an answer. That I'm prepared to give, anyway."
mac thats a dumb question you asked... FACT

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