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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#164951 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
In see you projecting your absolute horror of death. Better start really believing in the afterlife bullshit like all Theists who accept even the most ridiculous claims to ease their fear of death.

Evolution is only concerned with survival not death. You talk of evolution as though it is an entity with compassion. Another dumbs who knows nothing about the process of evolution. Now go and get some religion, if for no other reason than to quell your insane fear of death

The intelligent balanced mind realizes we all have a turn, that simple. Here's your turn, do the best you can, make the most of your turn and then make way for those behind you.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#164952 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh huh.
Endorphins shut out some of the pain and sensations. Kind of works on an intact brain that has blood pumping.
It stops pumping when you are dying. In fact, most things tend to stop their normal processes in such an event.
Dead bodies are notorious for not being animated and a certain lack of interactiveness between the body and the mind.
Your brain portion, your consciousness center, is a little pool of quivering chemicals within the greater mass breaking down randomly.
Little pools of oxygen throughout the body and the brain, chemical processes, and the accompanying neural activity, which all add up to your physical consciousness. All falling apart piecemeal. Uncontrolled thinking. Memory banks being flushed. No escape for a physical consciousness.
Not an organized shutdown. But YOU will be the center of it. And the one affected.
More projecting of your absolute horror of dying. Poor slob!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#164953 May 5, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody suffers because of religion. People suffer because of politics. Yes, this world is a sick place!!
Hey, liberty guy!!!!
Go tell that to the women under the Talaban rule you stupid cow. Now tell me that sharia law is political. Educate yourself. "Fat and stupid is no way to go through life."
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#164954 May 5, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
POLITICS USING RELIGION CARD!!!!!
True. Religion isn't always what motivates such violence or terrorism. Religion certainly does nothing to inhibit it and religious divisions seem to encourage sectarianism.
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
GREEDY B*ST*RDS AGAIN!!!
U honestly telling me the people involved in the above, were truly religious people?
Some were. Much violence has occurred due to religions beliefs, "holy land", and other gibberish held as sacred. Whoever heard of an atheist suicide bomber?
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
R u really gonna compare them to saints??? REALLY??
SPIRITUAL PEOPLE HAVE NO FLAMIN' GREED!!!
Spiritual people aren't obviously better or different than people like me who feel we have no spiritual side. We're all just human and the products of nature and nurture.

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and outdated.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#164955 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
True Bible©

1. Do you believe in God?

A.Yes, I believe in the one TRUE God.
B.Yes, I have my own religious beliefs.
C.I'm not really sure but a sword to my throat would convince me.
D.No way, I prefer rationality.

2. Do you believe in MY God?
A. Oh totally.(That's a fine sword you have there).
B. Nah, I already have one of those.
C.There are no Gods.

3. Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

A. You bet! One time, two times, three times my savior!
B.Once in a while.
C. Jesus who?
D. No, I'll opt out.

4. Have you read the King James Bible?

A. Yes! Like OMG, it's my freaking life!
B. Yeah, it was decent.
C. Yes, but The Cat in the Hat was better.
D. I'd rather eat a thumbtack sandwich than read that garbage.

5. The TRUE meaning of the 6th Commandment:

A. Thou shalt not kill anyone for any reason.
B.Thou shalt not kill anyone except for the people who don't believe in the same God you believe in or people who don't believe in God at all.
C. Thou shalt not kill except if they really piss you off.
D. Slay away! More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason in history.
E. God killed all life on earth, that she created, except Eight inexperienced shipbuilders, One of which - get this - 900 years old!

The salvation of your eternal soul depends on how you answer the quiz.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164956 May 5, 2013
Tell that to the Muslim girls who had their nose chopped off by an imam for fleeing their abusive husband.

Hey Clem!
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody suffers because of religion. People suffer because of politics. Yes, this world is a sick place!!

Hey, liberty guy!!!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164957 May 5, 2013
You can see the Alzheimer's more and more as Dave posts on.

Soon he will lose the ability to post... Or make it to the toilet.
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>More projecting of your absolute horror of dying. Poor slob!

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#164958 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
No not really Dave , it is like a machine that in death will decompose, if that process is slowed down, and the machine repaired . It can function again with minimal memory loss and brain damage. It only shows that everything you are in contained in those neural tissues and networks that cooling and oxygenating can save them from degrading .(at least for several hours)
But when those tissues degrade and decompose everything you are is lost.
On the physical level.

Everyone feels like the driver of a car. The body is a material machine, a vehicle to get from here to there. Your consciousness is a combo of the physical processes of the brain coupled with a hidden consciousness within you. This is something you will discover when the physical portion of that consciousness is rendered inoperable. The physical consciousness, the "awake" thinking you do, is an interface of your real self, whatever form that is, and this material world and other real "yous" doing the same thing. It is an improv theatrical production, so to speak. Any changes to the physical assemblage affects that filtering and interacting.

Topix atheists are stuck in the strictly material aspect of existence. They confuse the mechanics of materialism with causation. This is from reading the thoughts and observations of others. Which results in the parroting we see they do so much of on here. No real thinking on their own. They should spend more time getting acquainted with their inner selves.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#164959 May 5, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>More projecting of your absolute horror of dying. Poor slob!
You are going to have a terrible time.

Death is something I went through 19 years ago, and I face a real threat of it on an ongoing basis. I have to think to stay alive. My autonomous systems took a hit.

Dying as you know it is not a fun experience. However, if you have done it before, you don't have the desperation to survive you did before. You balance the pain of it with the pain of continuing in this existence.

Your inner consciousness remains intact. The meat conscieusness gets shut off, along with the memories it stores. Which is why the first thing to go is the education and reasoned thought you think you have is the first to evaporate.

You've been too busy blowing your horn to notice the real world. Driving down the highway of life honking at those that get in your way. Eyes straight ahead. Pure projection.

Or something like that.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#164960 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
On the physical level.
Everyone feels like the driver of a car. The body is a material machine, a vehicle to get from here to there. Your consciousness is a combo of the physical processes of the brain coupled with a hidden consciousness within you. This is something you will discover when the physical portion of that consciousness is rendered inoperable. The physical consciousness, the "awake" thinking you do, is an interface of your real self, whatever form that is, and this material world and other real "yous" doing the same thing. It is an improv theatrical production, so to speak. Any changes to the physical assemblage affects that filtering and interacting.
Topix atheists are stuck in the strictly material aspect of existence. They confuse the mechanics of materialism with causation. This is from reading the thoughts and observations of others. Which results in the parroting we see they do so much of on here. No real thinking on their own. They should spend more time getting acquainted with their inner selves.
Topix theists posting in atheist forums have a mental disorder which manifests itself with an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.

Behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

Need proof of mental disease?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...

You can get a harvest if you plan to seed. ;)

Imhotep's court physicians prescribe psychotherapy.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#164961 May 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Topix theists posting in atheist forums have a mental disorder which manifests itself with an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.
Behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
Need proof of mental disease?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...
You can get a harvest if you plan to seed. ;)
Imhotep's court physicians prescribe psychotherapy.
Your first sentence reveals your psychiatric issues.

These forums are for discussions, not socializing. Gay bars are for gays only, right? The country club is only for the elite whites of the community, right?

You won't get a harvest unless the environment allows it. That includes the amount of virtual particles wandering in and out of existence on a random basis.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#164962 May 5, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Go tell that to the women under the Talaban rule you stupid cow. Now tell me that sharia law is political. Educate yourself. "Fat and stupid is no way to go through life."
Oh shut the f*ck up u idiot! U r the idiot that doesn't even understand when and how sharia law was created! Educate yourself, u retard! Muslim women get what they deserve, they give birth to that vermin!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#164963 May 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Tell that to the Muslim girls who had their nose chopped off by an imam for fleeing their abusive husband.
Hey Clem!
<quoted text>
Oh please cut the crap!! I'm tired of going around in circles! U win, be happy!!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#164964 May 5, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>True. Religion isn't always what motivates such violence or terrorism. Religion certainly does nothing to inhibit it and religious divisions seem to encourage sectarianism.
<quoted text> Some were. Much violence has occurred due to religions beliefs, "holy land", and other gibberish held as sacred. Whoever heard of an atheist suicide bomber?
<quoted text>Spiritual people aren't obviously better or different than people like me who feel we have no spiritual side. We're all just human and the products of nature and nurture.
Religion = superstition. It's divisive and outdated.
OK, bye!

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#164965 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
On the physical level.
Everyone feels like the driver of a car. The body is a material machine, a vehicle to get from here to there. Your consciousness is a combo of the physical processes of the brain coupled with a hidden consciousness within you. This is something you will discover when the physical portion of that consciousness is rendered inoperable. The physical consciousness, the "awake" thinking you do, is an interface of your real self, whatever form that is, and this material world and other real "yous" doing the same thing. It is an improv theatrical production, so to speak. Any changes to the physical assemblage affects that filtering and interacting.
Topix atheists are stuck in the strictly material aspect of existence. They confuse the mechanics of materialism with causation. This is from reading the thoughts and observations of others. Which results in the parroting we see they do so much of on here. No real thinking on their own. They should spend more time getting acquainted with their inner selves.
I often wondered why those very old people on their last leg, near the end their days. Who wander aimlessly around mumbling to themselves in a incoherent rambling .

Had I known earlier they were spending more time getting acquainted with their inner selves, I wouldn't been so convinced they were senile and going crazy.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#164966 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your first sentence reveals your psychiatric issues.
These forums are for discussions, not socializing. Gay bars are for gays only, right? The country club is only for the elite whites of the community, right?
You won't get a harvest unless the environment allows it. That includes the amount of virtual particles wandering in and out of existence on a random basis.
I responded in kind your comment

You addressed topics atheists, i addressed topics theists

"A thing is not proved just because no one has ever questioned it. What has never been gone into impartially has never been properly gone into. Hence scepticism is the first step toward truth. It must be applied generally, because it is the touchstone."

Watch out for the fellow who talks about putting things in order! Putting things in order always means getting other people under your control.
Denis Diderot, Supplement to Bougainville's 'Voyage,' 1796

“Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”
Denis Diderot
French author, encyclopedist, & philosopher (1713 - 1784)

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#164967 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
I often wondered why those very old people on their last leg, near the end their days. Who wander aimlessly around mumbling to themselves in a incoherent rambling .
Had I known earlier they were spending more time getting acquainted with their inner selves, I wouldn't been so convinced they were senile and going crazy.
:-)

Wait until your time comes.

Since you were a child you were let out of the chute and raced around the track, chasing that electric rabbit. Make enough laps and you should be able to notice there is a certain artificiality to the scene. You may tire of running in circles and wander off the track to smell some flowers or take a poop.

Keep chasing that rabbit. Just don't take a bite of it if you do catch it, which won't happen because it is designed to stay ahead of you.

Life is a personal experience if you are a truly free thinking intellect. Otherwiae you are just part of a machine.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#164969 May 5, 2013
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh shut the f*ck up u idiot! U r the idiot that doesn't even understand when and how sharia law was created! Educate yourself, u retard! Muslim women get what they deserve, they give birth to that vermin!
Just the kind of talk I would expect from a classless ho. The women in my life have way more class than to talk like that, even when upset. I guess thats the mark of a real women. Oh, BTW.....Moooooooooooooo!!!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#164970 May 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are going to have a terrible time.
Death is something I went through 19 years ago, and I face a real threat of it on an ongoing basis. I have to think to stay alive. My autonomous systems took a hit.
Dying as you know it is not a fun experience. However, if you have done it before, you don't have the desperation to survive you did before. You balance the pain of it with the pain of continuing in this existence.
Your inner consciousness remains intact. The meat conscieusness gets shut off, along with the memories it stores. Which is why the first thing to go is the education and reasoned thought you think you have is the first to evaporate.
You've been too busy blowing your horn to notice the real world. Driving down the highway of life honking at those that get in your way. Eyes straight ahead. Pure projection.
Or something like that.
Being involved in creativity has actually allowed me to see the real world, to observe all those little things that most people miss. Often my inspiration comes from observing the littlest things. I dare say I am more in touch with the real world than you, because of this. Only a creative mind can share in that inner world most people miss, but you wouldn't know about that would you. Maybe if you opened your ears to something other than pukebucket, you'd discover another entire universe. I don't have any hope that will happen for you. Sad!!!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#164974 May 5, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Just the kind of talk I would expect from a classless ho. The women in my life have way more class than to talk like that, even when upset. I guess thats the mark of a real women. Oh, BTW.....Moooooooooooooo!!!
That's how i talk to the men that have no respect. U have called me stupid, cow, blonde, fat etc... more than once and i didn't say anything. Even 'Macumazahn' told u to stop being mean to me, but u still didn't stop, but I've had enough of u calling me names for no reason. If u can pick on a young girl and call her names, u deserve no respect!

Goodbye!

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