Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164492 Apr 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Nope DNA fails the information curve.
How so? Provide an example, please.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164493 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, yours is a game. Shall we go back to your position. You claim that you do not believe there is a God or not a god. So, unless you believe that there is a God, then go ask the atheists for proof that there is no god. That would be your starting point, since you have taken a position of ignorance.
Just so you know, your game is mundane. I do not care if you believe or don't believe that there is a God. Funny thing, you whine that folks are trying to force their beliefs on you, but now you whine when they won't, and pout when we say that your belief is your choice.
How do you prove that something that is not there, is not there?

This is your game, I'm just playing along.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164494 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
What were the six days of creation? Were they Earth days? Were they god's days? Does god even have days? What does he base his days on?
No, God doesn't have days. He exists in all times simultaneously. As quoted from scripture; "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

It's comparing a "day" to God as having no meaning of time. Comparing 1,000 years to a 3-hour night watch.

I think we see time very much differently than God.
When god said that he rested for a day, how long did he really rest?
He didn't literally rest - he doesn't need to. He did that as an example for us, to keep one day for rest, the Sabbath Day.
Is that why Eve ate the forbidden fruit, cause god was resting for millions of Earth years?
No, Eve ate the fruit because she was tempted by Satan, and she's an imperfect human.
When god called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night, how long was that day?
It wasn't a day. Genesis 1:11, 1:12 clearly dispute that. Plants can't grow from seedling to mature plant and produce more seeds that grow into more mature plants in a 24 hour period.

Same thing with Genesis 2:21-22, when God created Eden.
Your god must flip back and forth between an Earth day and a god day quite often. Didn't he realize how bad that would confuse people?
Are you confused?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164496 Apr 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
No shame in you constantly being proven wrong by your betters.
<quoted text>
'Shame in me", huh?

Tarzan say you having problem.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164497 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I found your atheism forum quite amusing. 27 people viewing and the largest thread was this one, which did not origin in the atheism forum.
Hilarious and desperate. Thus, you are here.
So it is numbers that make you right?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164498 Apr 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Blueprints are not coded ,they may seem coded but are not.
The blueprints written in Greek are not coded.
You just do not understand Greek.
Maybe not, but fried zucchini is good!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#164499 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Start with Genesis 1 and work your way forward.
That's what that clodpate Ussher did.

And look how that screwed everything up.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164502 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Still nothing from you. Nada. By the way, read science books, journals and study science. Try it.
Are you smart or not smart?
Leviticus 18, 13 verses forbid incest. Yes,the Bible does tell them to kill people who were killing them. Nope,the Bible does not approve of slavery, rape or selling daughters.
But, what does my Bible have to do with your alleged scientific books. You are clueless in both spheres of study.
Why not give it a shot? I would love to see your wealth of science data, which you have used to convince yourself that there is no God. Please share.
From your viewpoint, no the bible doesn't, it is your god that does. From my viewpoint, it is the man who wrote the bible who were saying those things.

And of course you know the verses that tell the believers to kill everything in the village if even one person is not a believer. So why say something that you know is incorrect?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164503 Apr 28, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That's what that clodpate Ussher did.
And look how that screwed everything up.
True.
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164504 Apr 28, 2013
im still waiting for your answer to this
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>
If you accept that God does exist, then you except that He is God and not human, and you are but an ant in His design of things. If you don't like ants being killed, then don't step on grass.
didnt god create man in His image,,,or is god an ant??

seems to me that men created gods in their Image

www.godchecker.com

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#164505 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, yours is a game. Shall we go back to your position. You claim that you do not believe there is a God or not a god. So, unless you believe that there is a God, then go ask the atheists for proof that there is no god. That would be your starting point, since you have taken a position of ignorance.
Just so you know, your game is mundane. I do not care if you believe or don't believe that there is a God. Funny thing, you whine that folks are trying to force their beliefs on you, but now you whine when they won't, and pout when we say that your belief is your choice.
You're underthinking.

1. There's no evidence to support the existence of a deity.

2. Therefore, there's no reason to believe in one.

3. Therefore, I don't.

See how easy?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164506 Apr 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
didnt god create man in His image,,,or is god an ant??
seems to me that men created gods in their Image
Of course your ignorant atheist mind tells you that "made in His image" means only physical apperance.

Typical.

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164507 Apr 28, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you are confusing someone who says that he has no belief in a god for which no evidence has ever existed is also a person who is prosytizing aobut some belief. I don't believe. If I am given something which I can see some evidence of them I might believe. If the evidence is proven then I would have no choice because I owuld then know rather than believe.
I have not been pushing the scientific theories on Topix, though I may have mentioned some things which science has proved, one of which is evolution. We do not have all of the steps or even a first step, which I doubt there is a first step, in evolution but man has proved that evolution occurs and has occurred.
So how has science proven ''evolution''? Do you know what they do to determine this?
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164508 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
From your viewpoint, no the bible doesn't, it is your god that does. From my viewpoint, it is the man who wrote the bible who were saying those things.
And of course you know the verses that tell the believers to kill everything in the village if even one person is not a believer. So why say something that you know is incorrect?
its called lying for jebus..lol

same w his claim that bible doesnt condone slavery

http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164509 Apr 28, 2013
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>
So how has science proven ''evolution''? Do you know what they do to determine this?
Do you know how to Google?

try it

“THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD;”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#164513 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Still nothing from you. Nada. By the way, read science books, journals and study science. Try it.
Are you smart or not smart?
Leviticus 18, 13 verses forbid incest. Yes,the Bible does tell them to kill people who were killing them. Nope,the Bible does not approve of slavery, rape or selling daughters.
But, what does my Bible have to do with your alleged scientific books. You are clueless in both spheres of study.
Why not give it a shot? I would love to see your wealth of science data, which you have used to convince yourself that there is no God. Please share.
Again scripture shuts the mouths of the unlearned.
LuLu Ford

Laguna Niguel, CA

#164515 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Good. So, what is your point.
I am not trying to get you to believe in Kraken.
If you choose not to believe in Kraken, that is your choice.
Perhaps you will try Coyote.
See how easy,if those two don't suit you, I can present others to you.
I fart up your nose.
LuLu Ford

Laguna Niguel, CA

#164516 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know how to read a Bible or to study about Dionysus. Try it.
Besides, if you have a position, you should know it.
Your nose, my fart, together again.
LuLu Ford

Laguna Niguel, CA

#164517 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Good. So, what is your point.
I am not trying to get you to believe in Kraken.
If you choose not to believe in Kraken, that is your choice.
Perhaps you will try Coyote.
See how easy,if those two don't suit you, I can present others to you.
I love to fart up your nose. Lick my butt.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164519 Apr 28, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>You're underthinking.
1. There's no evidence to support the existence of a deity.
2. Therefore, there's no reason to believe in one.
3. Therefore, I don't.
See how easy?
Well, we can't empirically prove things like love, wind, numbers, thoughts, consciousness, etc.

And that's in us and in our world... And you want the same for God?

O_o

Can we make a deal?

If you do the thinkig for me, I'll do the praying for you.

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