Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Apr 28, 2013
 
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>How many times must it be shown and proven that there is no atheism forum? If I am wrong,then give me the link and I will say "oh".... What I find odd that is that you atheists would come here to post to Christians and theists and expose your uncertainty and baseless position. I would think that you all would be trying to at once create a manual or some concrete basis for your mental gymnastics.
We only need you, to show how stupid you are.
It doesn't even require an effort on our part.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
No atheism forum?

http://m.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism

Show us observable proof for god, until then the atheist is on solid ground and you know it.
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>How many times must it be shown and proven that there is no atheism forum? If I am wrong,then give me the link and I will say "oh".... What I find odd that is that you atheists would come here to post to Christians and theists and expose your uncertainty and baseless position. I would think that you all would be trying to at once create a manual or some concrete basis for your mental gymnastics.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
Great go educate yourself on scientific matters from actual science books not apologetic websites and get yourself educated.

Show us a scripture forbidding incest. It doesn't exist. In fact incest was common and accepted in the bible.

The bible says to kill non believers even by Jesus himself! It approves of slavery, rape, selling your daughter and I could go on.

Secular morality is by far superior to Christian morality
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I actually welcome your so-called scientific data, please share. I often use science to disprove science claims.

So,what laws are being attempted to rule over people's lives that you are amiss by? I do believe that one of you claimed that you do not need religion to have morality and laws. So, clearly laws against killing, rape, incest, stealing, pedophilia and driving drunk come from your own moral compass, right?
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Apr 28, 2013
 
No shame in you constantly being proven wrong by your betters.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Tarzan say you not talk good.

Tarzan say you need help.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, excuse me. A 'genetic' code.
Or 'generic' in GML's case....
Blueprints are not coded ,they may seem coded but are not.
The blueprints written in Greek are not coded.
You just do not understand Greek.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text> DNA’s definition as a literal code (and not a figurative one) is nearly universal in the entire body of biological literature since the 1960&#8242;s.
The book Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life is written by Hubert Yockey, the foremost living specialist in bioinformatics. The publisher is Cambridge University press. Yockey rigorously demonstrates that the coding process in DNA is identical to the coding process and mathematical definitions used in Electrical Engineering. This is not subjective, it is not debatable or even controversial. It is a brute fact!
Nope DNA fails the information curve.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>No accusation child. Drinking less simply means less. If you have an excess problem then perhaps you should be denied access. Yeah, tell Bill Gates that he has not found the key to material success. Tell him it is impossible for him, because billions are still looking. The statement is not that they have not looked, it is that they are not looking. You of of the illusion that Bill Gates has to prove to you that you can be wealthy. He does not. You have some strange idea that we need you to believe.

Why do you keep asking for proof, if you do not believe that God exists? We are not asking you for your proof that nothing exists,now are we. You do not have any proof that nothing created something out of nothing. These are your issues.
The bottom line is that scientific theories fail your belief in atheism and sheer selfish delusions causes you to reject biblical and all scientific evidence that God is all around you and the creator of all that exists or will ever exist.
The fact is, science does not function in proof and you do not live by proof, so your request is accusatory and a denial of your absence of a rational basis for your nothing thinking.
Science does function in proof, though it make work from supposition before it gets the proof. If it doesn't get the proof then it doesn't make definite statements until such proof is found or it is determined that the original theory was in error by some other finding being discovered. Scientists do not send men into outer space on the 'belief' that doing so is possible, but on the knowledge that going into outer space is not possible but has occurred, as men put many satellites and rockets into space without men on them before they ever attempted to send a man, and they had determined that it was possible to send life into space and bring it back alive, before the risked the lives of men, and in since taking that risk, they have had quite a few men and women die in failures in part of that procedure, yet they still know that doing so can be done.

Almost everything that we do nowadays in the western world requires the use of proven science, whereas the very poorly developed parts of the world seems to be able to survive at least in small groups without having proved anything of a scientific nature other than what they can see right in front of them.

As for drinking I do not drink as a rule at all, so excess is not even a consideration for me.

I live by the fact that I am alive and until I am dead I will remain alive, as has been proved by billions of humans before me. If all things that scientists have discovered were to be taken from North America tomorrow, and we got no assistance in any way from other places on the earth, the majority of our population, including me, would be dead in a very short time, because we have become so dependent on things that man has built through his knowledge and proof of science that a complete loss of the function of those things would lead to mass starvation, in a very short time.

One man can get lost without benefit of science and manage to survive for a short or even a long period of time, but the large populations would not do that because we would quickly use up all available food, and then with no mechanisms that we currently use to acquire more food, especially in the places that have winter, we would only last until the existing supply ran out. The average household, assuming they were not invaded by other people who had already run out, would likely not have enough food to last very many days, and some even would likely have little more than enough for a day or two at the most.

Man is using faith in things continuing and that he will manage to fix anything that breaks because that is what we have become accustomed to happening.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>No accusation child. Drinking less simply means less. If you have an excess problem then perhaps you should be denied access. Yeah, tell Bill Gates that he has not found the key to material success. Tell him it is impossible for him, because billions are still looking. The statement is not that they have not looked, it is that they are not looking. You of of the illusion that Bill Gates has to prove to you that you can be wealthy. He does not. You have some strange idea that we need you to believe.
If I say 'Yes, there is a God', you can believe that statement or not. If you can not prove that there is no God, then it is your delusion that causes you to believe or not believe there is a God. Since, God is neither alcohol or a math problem, like in science there is no proof that you will choose to accept.
Why do you keep asking for proof, if you do not believe that God exists? We are not asking you for your proof that nothing exists,now are we. You do not have any proof that nothing created something out of nothing. These are your issues.
The bottom line is that scientific theories fail your belief in atheism and sheer selfish delusions causes you to reject biblical and all scientific evidence that God is all around you and the creator of all that exists or will ever exist.
The fact is, science does not function in proof and you do not live by proof, so your request is accusatory and a denial of your absence of a rational basis for your nothing thinking.
It is nice to be called a child though by someone who is likely younger than I am, though I have no proof of that being the case. I am meaning that sincerely as I am not offended by someone calling me a child, because I am confident in what I am, and if someone sees me as young, all the better.

I also see absolutely no reason to even suggest that the word child might have been inferring that my knowledge compared to yours was like that of a child, because it is obvious from our posts that I have no problem in that area.:)
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<quoted text> It was you experts in all things that pointed it out by using the bible how old Earth is.
The simple challenge that destroys YOUR credibility.
Why must you lie, I never made that claim because I know better.

So now you no longer agree with that position? Admitting that I am right!
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<quoted text> Nope DNA fails the information curve.
Of course you have scientific evidence to support this radical view of yours that is not supported by the mainstream?
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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Nope DNA fails the information curve.
How so? Provide an example, please.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, yours is a game. Shall we go back to your position. You claim that you do not believe there is a God or not a god. So, unless you believe that there is a God, then go ask the atheists for proof that there is no god. That would be your starting point, since you have taken a position of ignorance.
Just so you know, your game is mundane. I do not care if you believe or don't believe that there is a God. Funny thing, you whine that folks are trying to force their beliefs on you, but now you whine when they won't, and pout when we say that your belief is your choice.
How do you prove that something that is not there, is not there?

This is your game, I'm just playing along.

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What were the six days of creation? Were they Earth days? Were they god's days? Does god even have days? What does he base his days on?
No, God doesn't have days. He exists in all times simultaneously. As quoted from scripture; "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

It's comparing a "day" to God as having no meaning of time. Comparing 1,000 years to a 3-hour night watch.

I think we see time very much differently than God.
When god said that he rested for a day, how long did he really rest?
He didn't literally rest - he doesn't need to. He did that as an example for us, to keep one day for rest, the Sabbath Day.
Is that why Eve ate the forbidden fruit, cause god was resting for millions of Earth years?
No, Eve ate the fruit because she was tempted by Satan, and she's an imperfect human.
When god called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night, how long was that day?
It wasn't a day. Genesis 1:11, 1:12 clearly dispute that. Plants can't grow from seedling to mature plant and produce more seeds that grow into more mature plants in a 24 hour period.

Same thing with Genesis 2:21-22, when God created Eden.
Your god must flip back and forth between an Earth day and a god day quite often. Didn't he realize how bad that would confuse people?
Are you confused?

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Apr 28, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
No shame in you constantly being proven wrong by your betters.
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'Shame in me", huh?

Tarzan say you having problem.

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Apr 28, 2013
 
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>I found your atheism forum quite amusing. 27 people viewing and the largest thread was this one, which did not origin in the atheism forum.
Hilarious and desperate. Thus, you are here.
So it is numbers that make you right?

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Blueprints are not coded ,they may seem coded but are not.
The blueprints written in Greek are not coded.
You just do not understand Greek.
Maybe not, but fried zucchini is good!

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Apr 28, 2013
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Start with Genesis 1 and work your way forward.
That's what that clodpate Ussher did.

And look how that screwed everything up.

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<quoted text>Still nothing from you. Nada. By the way, read science books, journals and study science. Try it.
Are you smart or not smart?
Leviticus 18, 13 verses forbid incest. Yes,the Bible does tell them to kill people who were killing them. Nope,the Bible does not approve of slavery, rape or selling daughters.
But, what does my Bible have to do with your alleged scientific books. You are clueless in both spheres of study.
Why not give it a shot? I would love to see your wealth of science data, which you have used to convince yourself that there is no God. Please share.
From your viewpoint, no the bible doesn't, it is your god that does. From my viewpoint, it is the man who wrote the bible who were saying those things.

And of course you know the verses that tell the believers to kill everything in the village if even one person is not a believer. So why say something that you know is incorrect?

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Apr 28, 2013
 
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That's what that clodpate Ussher did.
And look how that screwed everything up.
True.
christianity is EVIL

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Apr 28, 2013
 
im still waiting for your answer to this
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
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If you accept that God does exist, then you except that He is God and not human, and you are but an ant in His design of things. If you don't like ants being killed, then don't step on grass.
didnt god create man in His image,,,or is god an ant??

seems to me that men created gods in their Image

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