Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Read more

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164390 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Who established that? This is the problem, someone makes up a definition and do so without proof, and then many just grab hold of it. No, faith is what you choose to believe in or not believe in.
Do you believe and trust in the people or somethings that presented to you evolution, speciation, black holes, time and space measurements and many things that people present and most place blind trust in???
As for God or no God, then you have faith in your uncertainty and that the evidence presented is not sufficient for you. You do have enough faith to believe that each time you turn your car on, it will not blow up and kill your family and you.
Here's were you fail. I do not have blind faith in science. Here is my analogy on science and religion.

Think a platform with stairs reaching far up into the sky and ending at another platform. We'll call that science.

Now imagine another platform and way up in the sky is another platform. There are no steps, just two platforms. We'll call that religion.

While I may not know or understand everything about science, there are these steps that we can view, test, retest and verify. That means that there is proof.

In religion, there are not verifiable, viewable steps. To get from one platform to the next requires blind faith. We cannot even talk to anyone who has made it to the top platform. In science, I can talk to millions who have walked up the stairs.

When christians use the word faith on the non-faithful, they are being dishonest.

I don't have blind faith that my child is going to come home when I tell them. I have taken steps to train my child to be respectful and obey. I don't have faith that I am going to wake up in the morning. I have successfully done so 18,809 times, why would I think tomorrow would be different?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164391 Apr 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
you dont seem to know anything about atheism
read and learn
www.atheists.org
"Join us in New York City on Thursday for #DefendDissent: A Protest to Support Free Expression in Bangladesh"

HA HA HA !!!

aaawwww..... Are atheists getting arrested in Bangladesh?

HA!
Imhotep

United States

#164392 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>So, I see that you escaped from the Obama thread, where you had claimed for years that Obama was our savior.
NO, you serve no purpose, except as the alter ego of good. As for God, he existed long before evil entered into being. I am certain that His purpose remained and remains, despite the presence of you and evil.
The alter ego is the ID to your ego and an issue in your psyche which permeates your decisions and influences your actions and reactions.
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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164393 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Black holes have never been observed, only their supposed effects.
Aura Mytha wrote:
The very same thing we can say about tornado's and the sun but it doesn't make them any less real.
O_o

Tornados and the sun have been observed....

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164394 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Pay attention, if you do not believe that there is a God, then despite what you think you read, then you must believe that these people did the killing on their own. You therefore can not contribute the killings to God and it is senseless for you to argue that.
Of course I do not contribute the killings to god! What is your point? I blame it on brainwashing. The bible clearly states that god wants its follower to kill non-believers.
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
If you lack analytic critical thinking, then perhaps you should consider another hobby besides debate.
Now, like I said, if you decide that there is a God who made the order, then he is not human or subject to human emotions and laws. To God, you are as the ant is to man.
Sorry, if you thought you were more. You are not.
If this is beyond you, it is,since you do not have enough information to consider whether there is a God or not, then don't get trapped in small spaces.
I have plenty of information showing that the god of the bible does not exist.

The bible states that god does have the same emotions that it gave angels and humans. I agree, it is pretty silly, isn't it?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164395 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>first point....if you are an atheist then you should be able to tell us what you are and we do not need to go to a link....
Second, If God does not intervene in your life is that proof that there is no God? No, that is just proof that God has not intervenes in your life. So, until you are worthy of God intervening in your life, freewill and choice, you are stuck with no evidence of God and no evidence of no God. It then becomes simply your self serving and non-evidentiary choice of what you freely choose to believe.
What proof do you have that a god or gods exist?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#164396 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"Join us in New York City on Thursday for #DefendDissent: A Protest to Support Free Expression in Bangladesh"
HA HA HA !!!
aaawwww..... Are atheists getting arrested in Bangladesh?
HA!
HA HA HA HA !!!! aaawwwww.... Are christians getting murdered in __________ <-- insert country

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164397 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
The bible clearly states that god wants its follower to kill non-believers.
I think you mean the Quran.....

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164398 Apr 28, 2013
I said it was about correcting the bible? You hit your head while digging ditches?

I said no such thing.

So correct yourself and stop cherry picking verses and howling that other verses are taken out of context.

In a biblical knowledge debate I would go circles around you.

Now rest up and put some ice on your wounds Monday will be here soon and there will be grunt work for you to do.

That is more your speed anyways.

:)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>HA! I knew it. You DO think that verse is talking about correcting the bible.

You're not schooled in the bible at all - you have an elementary understanding of it, which is typical of atheists.

That verse is talking about correcting yourself, not the bible.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164399 Apr 28, 2013
Head injuries are sad aren't they? I wish he could afford health insurance or just go get that treated.
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Who told you that?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164400 Apr 28, 2013
They also have ancient aliens and Bigfoot as history.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know where you're going with this.

Are you upset that the bible is everywhere?

Are you upset that the History Channel and Discovery Channel are displaying the Bible as history?(which it is)

What?
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164401 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Who established that? This is the problem, someone makes up a definition and do so without proof, and then many just grab hold of it. No, faith is what you choose to believe in or not believe in.
Do you believe and trust in the people or somethings that presented to you evolution, speciation, black holes, time and space measurements and many things that people present and most place blind trust in???
u.
no one is asking you to worship evolution,or black holes,lol

if you wish to remain Ignorant of something thats been confirmed real by millions of scientists go for it,just dont be surprised if the rest of the world laughs at you religitards..

www.evilbible.com

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164402 Apr 28, 2013
Without observable proof there is a god we people of reason have no logical rational to believe.

Your holy book tells the story of his crimes against humanity. Most likely what really happened is barbarians wanted to kill, rape and pillage and later claim some Jewish sky wizard told them to do it.
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>If you reject that there is a God, then God ordered no killing, it was just man deciding to kill. Now, if you accept as you claim that God ordered a killing, then you accept that He is Go and not a man. So, that his killing is even less so than you killing time or killing an ant. I am certain that the ant screams at you "murderer". Also, consider that you to God are another life form, like plants. So, each time you step on grass, the grass would scream " murderer, murderer".

On the other hand if you accept that animals and plants are here for our purpose, then you must accept that the giver of that purpose, God, put us here for his purpose.

The thing that you must know is this, God gives life and appoints the time. If you live to be 120, then so be it. If God decides that you are a waste of air and space, then your life may be cut-off at age 20. So, stop killing time, it may scream at you "murderer, murderer".

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164403 Apr 28, 2013
Then go find a god for us. Until you have observable proof your god goes on the shelf with Thor and the Kraken.
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Then go find you a leprechaun or unicorn, or perhaps you can find at least one of those millions of alleged black holes in our singular universe. Don't you think if you found a black hole you might find those leprechauns and unicorns?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164404 Apr 28, 2013
Unicorns are in the bible.
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>Really? So how many manuscripts or historical documents have been found on your leprechauns and unicorns?
christianity is EVIL

Lower Sackville, Canada

#164405 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>
Now, like I said, if you decide that there is a God who made the order, then he is not human or subject to human emotions and laws. To God, you are as the ant is to man.
s.
didnt god CREATE man in HIS Image??

or do you make up different version of god as you go along?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164407 Apr 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
no one is asking you to worship evolution,or black holes,lol
Is someone asking you to worship God?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164408 Apr 28, 2013
Christianity says a non Christian man can kill his wife and children also non Christian, get caught go to jail say rub a dub dub Jesus convert and he go to heaven while his victims are in hell or purgatory! This is true and you know it.

Such a sick twisted evil religion!

And Jesus specifically said he was not there to change even one word of the ancient Jewish prophets let alone abolish their laws.
psalms 23 wrote:
<quoted text>Nope not in the least,, that is ''your'' problem! I have salvation through the Grace of God by his Son Jesus Christ...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164409 Apr 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I said it was about correcting the bible? You hit your head while digging ditches?
I said no such thing.
You don't say much of anything....
So correct yourself and stop cherry picking verses and howling that other verses are taken out of context.
You cherry pick and misinterpret, I correct you. That's our roles.
In a biblical knowledge debate I would go circles around you.
I'm still waiting for it to get started, I wanna take your welfare check.
Now rest up and put some ice on your wounds Monday will be here soon and there will be grunt work for you to do.


More ASSumptions? That's all you do, GLM.

Just once, I'd like to see a worthwhile post from you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164410 Apr 28, 2013
christianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
didnt god CREATE man in HIS Image??
or do you make up different version of god as you go along?
Yes, he did.

And as as ignorant atheist, you assume that "made in His image" means "cloned in His physical appearance"...

You people are friggin retarded.

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