Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#163367 Apr 11, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Normal" is not accepted here.
So only abnormal is accepted?

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#163368 Apr 11, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, I feel your pain.
But you're coming out alone. No Fountain. He laughs like a hyena.
You haven't partied till you party with me and Fountain.

Did I tell you about his fight at the bowling alley when the lights went out?

That was funny as hell.

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#163369 Apr 11, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You know less about the subject than GiveMeLiverwurst.
Which is less than nothing.
Hitler despised Christianity and had written plans to eradicate it.
Settled history.
The only plans to eradicate Christianity from Germany, is yours to eradicate Hitler from it.

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#163370 Apr 11, 2013
“The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement)
was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

“I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the
character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has
never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred
years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its
amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been
rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be
built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or
irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long
as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it.”

[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning,_The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted
in Freethought Today April 1990]

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

“What we have to fight for…is the freedom and independence of the
fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission
assigned to it by the Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#163371 Apr 11, 2013
“This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the
practical existence of a religious belief.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp.152]

“And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his
estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove
those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp.174]

“Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another… while the
enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp.309]

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]

“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, p. 171]

“I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn
splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the
abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my
father, the highest and most desirable ideal.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]

“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from
time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At
all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man
and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna’s destinies: Dr.
Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 2]

“…the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party… was to
assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people
fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether
Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly
at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single
holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to
his own heaven.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long
as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and
ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the
scheming of political parties.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“God of War”

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#163372 Apr 11, 2013
“For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of
his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be
in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was
wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and
well-planned.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale
propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological
instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]

“If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked
among the great minds of our people.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader of
the Christian Social movement]

“Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy
enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an
overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted
to live at this time.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I had so often sung ‘Deutschland u:ber Alles’ and shouted ‘Heil’ at
the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of
grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the
eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very
first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always
and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence
which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering
and uncertain.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]

“I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art
which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only
the Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger’s time achieved
a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its
success.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 6]

“Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along
the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord’s grace
smiled on His ungrateful children.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World
War I]

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#163373 Apr 11, 2013
“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]

“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#163374 Apr 11, 2013
There are a good deal more that literally prove Hitler believed , but I'll spare you the point is made. By spamming Hitlers belief out loud.
A parting quote to ponder.

“The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations
for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient
world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for
its own doctrine.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 1 Chapter 12]

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163375 Apr 11, 2013
Did you also dig the Grand Canyon with your trusty Ox Blue?

Regardless your tall tales matter not one way or the other, nobody is impressed. Are we supposed to be? Do you think your tall tales even were they true, give your factless claims and logical fallacies any more credence? Come on fatass not even you are that stupid.

Behe is a devout Christian who heads up the self described Christian think Tank DI. He has humiliated himself with his god of the gaps arguments.

You need to start showing proof for your low IQ claims. More proof, less tall tales and lame insults.

And for your sake more green leafy vegetables on your plate.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Michael Behe believes evolution, including human/ape common ancestry, Hitler was a disciple of Haeckel, and the world is consistent - you are wrong again.

You remind me of a guy I used to tangle with by the name of Roscoe Davis - he never got tired of me whoopin' his ass.

My dad fought Joe Louis. I bet you don't believe that either.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163376 Apr 11, 2013
How could you possibly know my body fat percentage?

Yes you are a fatass, and a rather lame one I must say.

Again less tall tales more green leafy vegetables okay fatty fatty two by four, can't fit through the front door! Lmfao!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Fatass??

I weigh 315 pounds with a 34 inch waist, and my body fat percentage is lower than yours.

Fatass??

I made the starting offensive line of an NFL team.

What have you done?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163377 Apr 11, 2013
Dave will be getting jealous when he hears about your crush on your fatass balding brother.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Gayness is not harmful?

A few of my prison buddies would demur.

I'll come out to Socal if you'll send me some money and let me bring my brother Fountain Crick.

Fountain's hair is falling out. But not all over - just one big round spot right on top. He got drunk and danced around with a piece of fried bologna on top of his head. He didn't know it was still frying. His bald spot is perfectly circular.

But we still would look good on the beach in our cut-off bib overalls and cowboy boots. Fountain stole us a pair of ostrich. Not the bird, the boots.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#163378 Apr 11, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You are an idiot.
Hitler despised christianity.
It's settled history.
Hitler's religion was Darwinian evolution.
He was motivated by Darwinism, not Christianity.
Stings, don't it?
Liar full of lies he was a christian

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#163379 Apr 12, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>More like most of the time, but how does one talk civilly to a rabid dog?
Thanks.
With a live bunny?
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#163380 Apr 12, 2013
You say fought. You mean ended up with a mouth full of pillow feathers.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael Behe believes evolution, including human/ape common ancestry, Hitler was a disciple of Haeckel, and the world is consistent - you are wrong again.
You remind me of a guy I used to tangle with by the name of Roscoe Davis - he never got tired of me whoopin' his ass.
My dad fought Joe Louis. I bet you don't believe that either.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163381 Apr 12, 2013
Reposting part of Aura's smackdown towards Buck Crick.

Mainly because that Lil Ticked troll is back again to disrupt the damning conversation and truth sharing about her cult.

“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]

“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163382 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You know less about the subject than GiveMeLiverwurst.
Which is less than nothing.
Hitler despised Christianity and had written plans to eradicate it.
Settled history.
It takes a special kind of willful ignorant to put out a lie like that about hitler.

Especially in the face of mountains of quotes from Hitler about how he was doing gods work.

But its to be expected. There is more fossil evidence than their are Hitler quotes about Christianity

And you deny those too...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163383 Apr 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>You need to pick up some of those magic Mormon undies and Book a flight to:KOLUB

Mittens will introduce you to Joe Smith and his hallucinations. Mitt and GOP suffered the worst defeat in modern history

Tell me are Mormons Christians?
Or how about Fred Phelps Jimmy swaggert,

Cool dudes huh?
Just watched a show about Jonestown.

I'd never seen footage of the corpses before.

It's amazing that people can be so easily brainwashed.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163384 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Sharkey's article references official Nuremberg investigation documents.

They are available publicly - catalogued by Rutgers University and Cornell University, and published worldwide.

But of course, your preference is quoting the madman Hitler, taking his public words as sincere, then smearing personally the writer of the NY Times article.

You could not find your ass if it had a bell on it.

Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, noted:

"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."

"The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

"The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...'"

"On the altars there must be nothing but 'Mein Kampf'(to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

"On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."

(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William L. Shirer, p. 240 in some editions, p. 332 in others.

What you are too stupid to recognize or too dishonest to acknowledge is that Hitler used the familiar christian rhetoric for propaganda purposes, with its obvious appeal to the population. But he deeply hated Christianity and was determined to destroy it.

This is settled history. Wise up.
But he believed in god.

Some god.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163385 Apr 12, 2013
The truth doesn't sit well with Christians even though Hitler said many of the same talking points they still use today! For them to ignore the connection is laughable.
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Liar full of lies he was a christian
Lincoln

United States

#163386 Apr 12, 2013
...some atheists seem to take Hitler promises and statement as valid.
"The Sudetenland] is the last territorial claim that I have to make in Europe." Hitler after Munch 1938
...this poster might look up an event between 1939 to 1945 which seemed to indicate to Poland and Europe and Hitler lied.
GML - the last believer in Hitler

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