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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Bolton, UK

#163380 Apr 12, 2013
You say fought. You mean ended up with a mouth full of pillow feathers.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael Behe believes evolution, including human/ape common ancestry, Hitler was a disciple of Haeckel, and the world is consistent - you are wrong again.
You remind me of a guy I used to tangle with by the name of Roscoe Davis - he never got tired of me whoopin' his ass.
My dad fought Joe Louis. I bet you don't believe that either.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163381 Apr 12, 2013
Reposting part of Aura's smackdown towards Buck Crick.

Mainly because that Lil Ticked troll is back again to disrupt the damning conversation and truth sharing about her cult.

“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]

“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]

“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”

[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#163382 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You know less about the subject than GiveMeLiverwurst.
Which is less than nothing.
Hitler despised Christianity and had written plans to eradicate it.
Settled history.
It takes a special kind of willful ignorant to put out a lie like that about hitler.

Especially in the face of mountains of quotes from Hitler about how he was doing gods work.

But its to be expected. There is more fossil evidence than their are Hitler quotes about Christianity

And you deny those too...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163383 Apr 12, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>You need to pick up some of those magic Mormon undies and Book a flight to:KOLUB

Mittens will introduce you to Joe Smith and his hallucinations. Mitt and GOP suffered the worst defeat in modern history

Tell me are Mormons Christians?
Or how about Fred Phelps Jimmy swaggert,

Cool dudes huh?
Just watched a show about Jonestown.

I'd never seen footage of the corpses before.

It's amazing that people can be so easily brainwashed.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163384 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Sharkey's article references official Nuremberg investigation documents.

They are available publicly - catalogued by Rutgers University and Cornell University, and published worldwide.

But of course, your preference is quoting the madman Hitler, taking his public words as sincere, then smearing personally the writer of the NY Times article.

You could not find your ass if it had a bell on it.

Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, noted:

"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay. Rightly so. It is a branch of the Jewish race... Both [Judaism and Christianity] have no point of contact to the animal element, and thus, in the end, they will be destroyed."

"The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

"The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...'"

"On the altars there must be nothing but 'Mein Kampf'(to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

"On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."

(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William L. Shirer, p. 240 in some editions, p. 332 in others.

What you are too stupid to recognize or too dishonest to acknowledge is that Hitler used the familiar christian rhetoric for propaganda purposes, with its obvious appeal to the population. But he deeply hated Christianity and was determined to destroy it.

This is settled history. Wise up.
But he believed in god.

Some god.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163385 Apr 12, 2013
The truth doesn't sit well with Christians even though Hitler said many of the same talking points they still use today! For them to ignore the connection is laughable.
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Liar full of lies he was a christian
Lincoln

United States

#163386 Apr 12, 2013
...some atheists seem to take Hitler promises and statement as valid.
"The Sudetenland] is the last territorial claim that I have to make in Europe." Hitler after Munch 1938
...this poster might look up an event between 1939 to 1945 which seemed to indicate to Poland and Europe and Hitler lied.
GML - the last believer in Hitler
Lincoln

United States

#163387 Apr 12, 2013
Atheist deny God
but Trust Hitler.
Amusting
-Skeptic- wrote:
Reposting part of Aura's smackdown towards Buck Crick.
Mainly because that Lil Ticked troll is back again to disrupt the damning conversation and truth sharing about her cult.
“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]
“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]
“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]
“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163388 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Gayness is not harmful?
A few of my prison buddies would demur.
I'll come out to Socal if you'll send me some money and let me bring my brother Fountain Crick.
Fountain's hair is falling out. But not all over - just one big round spot right on top. He got drunk and danced around with a piece of fried bologna on top of his head. He didn't know it was still frying. His bald spot is perfectly circular.
But we still would look good on the beach in our cut-off bib overalls and cowboy boots. Fountain stole us a pair of ostrich. Not the bird, the boots.
Laffin.

Buck, I actually missed you. Welcome back.

Jaw all better, I hope?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163389 Apr 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Normal" is not accepted here.
It's an aberration?

Hehehe.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#163390 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Fatass??
I weigh 315 pounds with a 34 inch waist, and my body fat percentage is lower than yours.
Fatass??
I made the starting offensive line of an NFL team.
Of course you did, poodle...of course you did.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163391 Apr 12, 2013
Aw poor republicans! Poor Mitch McConnell in big trouble :)

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#163392 Apr 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't partied till you party with me and Fountain.
Did I tell you about his fight at the bowling alley when the lights went out?
That was funny as hell.
OK, bring Fountain.

But no way Peebob.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163393 Apr 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Aw poor republicans! Poor Mitch McConnell in big trouble :)
One is devastated.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163394 Apr 12, 2013
It's getting to the point Democrats will be able to phone in future elections and still win. The GOP is self destructing.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>One is devastated.
Imhotep

Stuart, FL

#163395 Apr 12, 2013
http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_14_1_role_ch...

Churches throughout Europe were mostly silent while Jews were persecuted, deported and murdered. In Nazi Germany in September 1935, there were a few Christians in the Protestant Confessing Church who demanded that their Church take a public stand in defense of the Jews. Their efforts, however, were overruled by Church leaders who wanted to avoid any conflict with the Nazi regime. Internationally, some Church leaders in Europe and North America did condemn the Nazis' measures against the Jews, and there were many debates about how Christians outside Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied territory should best respond to Hitler's brutal policies.

These discussions, however, tended to become focused more on secondary strategic considerations -- like maintaining good relations with colleagues in the German Churches -- than on the central humanitarian issues that were really at stake.

Churches throughout the world began to address their failures after 1945. Confessions of guilt have been issued by Catholic Churches in France and Germany, and most major Protestant denominations, beginning with the German Evangelical Church's Stuttgart Declaration of Guilt in August 1945 (three months after the war in Europe ended). The early statements were vague, often referring only to the Churches' general lack of decisiveness in opposing Nazism.

More recently, however, the Christian Churches have been far more specific -- recognizing that they not only failed to resist Nazism, but actually helped prepare the way for the mass destruction of Europe's Jews through centuries of proselytization, attacks on Judaism, and tacit or overt support for pogroms and other anti-Jewish violence.

These admissions of guilt are part of a difficult process, which still continues, in which Christians try to grasp exactly what happened to their Churches during the Holocaust.

The examinations raise a number of questions: Were the Churches, by and large, passive while millions of innocent people were murdered? To what extent can we say they resisted? To what extent were they guilty of active complicity? Most importantly: Why did the Churches respond as they did?

These are, obviously, complex questions, historically and theologically.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#163396 Apr 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Reposting part of Aura's smackdown towards Buck Crick.
Mainly because that Lil Ticked troll is back again to disrupt the damning conversation and truth sharing about her cult.
“The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be,
the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it
continues to depend on human beings… If this were not so, the
founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of
this earth… In its workings, even the religion of love is only the
weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance,
however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a
universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]
“To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other
great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin
Luther as well as Richard Wagner.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]
“The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution,
against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general
views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The
first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is
the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In
late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution
which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to
humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who
with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the ‘image’ of God.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
“Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the
poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like
a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of
fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will
hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food,
particularly for the youth…Theater, art, literature, cinema, press,
posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations
of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political,
and cultural idea.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural
Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]
“But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought
to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from
now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to
profane the Almighty.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
“While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in
order to win new followers for their doctrine– an activity which can
boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the
Mohammedan faith in particular– right here in Europe they lose
millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all
religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences,
particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.”
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]
The Hitler position is interesting yet pointless. His religion matters little. The most interesting thing that I find is that nobody mentions the "good" things that happened because of Hitler. Some major technological advances happened on his watch..

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163397 Apr 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It's getting to the point Democrats will be able to phone in future elections and still win. The GOP is self destructing.
<quoted text>
Don't lookit me, I don't like any of 'em.

I'm either a Libertarian extremist or a moderate Anarchist - there's a wee overlap in there somewhere.
Lincoln

United States

#163398 Apr 12, 2013
...some atheists seem to take Hitler promises and statement as valid.
"The Sudetenland] is the last territorial claim that I have to make in Europe."

Amusing atheist fantasies regarding Hitler.
Still no scientific evidence for atheism

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163399 Apr 12, 2013
Him being a genocidal maniac against those he called Christ Killers tends to have that effect.

I was watching something on A n E I think and it was showing some of the Nazi inventions. Certainly they had some creative ideas.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>The Hitler position is interesting yet pointless. His religion matters little. The most interesting thing that I find is that nobody mentions the "good" things that happened because of Hitler. Some major technological advances happened on his watch..

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