Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Hate to spike the football but okay for laughs :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s...
Catholic priest Bernhard Stempfle was a member of Hitler's inner circle in the early 1920s and frequently advised him on religious issues.
And..
To the extent he believed in a divinity, Hitler did not believe in a "remote, rationalist divinity" but in an "active deity," which he frequently referred to as "Creator" or "Providence". In Hitler's belief God created a world in which different races fought each other for survival.
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In November 1936 the Roman Catholic prelate Cardinal Michael von Faulhaber met Hitler at Berghof for a three hour meeting. He left the meeting convinced that "Hitler was deeply religious" and that "The Reich Chancellor undoubtedly lives in belief in God. He recognises Christianity as the builder of Western culture".
And Hitler the occultist?
In contrast to a few other Nazi leaders, Hitler did not adhere to esoteric ideas, occultism, or mysticism (see also Nazism and occultism) and even ridiculed such beliefs in private and possibly in public. Hitler stated: "We will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else—in any case something which has nothing to do with us."
And..
Hitler argued that "Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith."
And..
Hitler advocated positive Christianity In Mein Kampf Hitler writes that Jesus "made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross." Hitler stated to Albert Speer, "Through me the Protestant Church could become the established church, as in England.
I could go on but need I?:)
Again from your own link Riverside Retard. Maybe you'll do better next time?
You lose.

Nowhere did you copy/paste that Hitler wanted to start his own version of Protestant Christianity, as you claimed.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Not proof of god. I bet your next post has no proof of god in it as well.
No proof of not f*cking you mom. I'll bet your next post have proof of not f*cking you mom, either.

Quit lying you atheist piece of shit.

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He championed for his idea of positive Protestant Christianity to become the dominant religion in Germany. As clearly states in your link, and you know it.

He also demanded Christianity be taught in schools.

He clearly fought against secularism yes? From your own link.... And you know it.

Factually destroying you is always so easy yet so much fun. We really enjoy making you dance for our laughter and amusement puppet. Next time read your own link so you don't humiliate yourself okay?

Lmfao!:))
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<quoted text>You lose.

Nowhere did you copy/paste that Hitler wanted to start his own version of Protestant Christianity, as you claimed.

“There is no such thing”

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Would you say you have always been civil on here?
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on occasion

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They are religiously inspired feel good pseudoscience with not a shred on verifiable proof to back them up. ID proponents have given up altogether trying to back up their assertion scientifically and have resorted to teach the controversy!
Hey 2+2 = fish sandwich... Math teachers must teach the controversy!
Lmfao oh keep dancing for us puppet!
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What about the supporters who don't believe in God?

Is their adherence religiously inspired?

That just scratches the surface of your stupid post.

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Imhotep wrote:
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No it's not the quote that's stupid, it's you
Save your squalid life stories for someone else
Try to focus on the forum topic instead of yourself for a change
I know this is a huge mental challenge for you but do try
"God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters." ~H.L. Mencken
“No theologian could ever be a historian. History is essentially disinterested. The historian has only one concern: art and truth,...whereas the theologian has something else at stake- his dogma.”~Joseph Ernest Renan
Seriously... get a life Buck
Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous posts
I accept your advice with the same sincerity with which it is offered.

None.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Released when? You were already soundly humiliated on this and quite frankly I am surprised you even attempted that fail again.
I notice you couldn't refute anything I posted fatboy. Oh that's right because I posted fact and not Faux News opinion pieces.
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Are you ready to feel really stupid?

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Is the NY Times "Faux News"?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. ....

Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity
By JOE SHARKEY (NY Times)
Published: January 13, 2002

"The first installment, published last week on the Web site of the Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion ( www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-relig... ), includes a 108-page outline prepared by O.S.S. investigators to aid Nuremberg prosecutors. The outline,''The Persecution of the Christian Churches,'' summarizes the Nazi plan to subvert and destroy German Christianity, which it calls ''an integral part of the National Socialist scheme of world conquest.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinrevie...

Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahh ahaahahha....<cough!>, pffffftttt...

THE NAZI’S PERSECUTION OF RELIGION AS A WAR CRIME: THE OSS’S RESPONSE
WITHIN THE NUREMBERG TRIALS PROCESS
http://lawandreligion.com/sites/lawandreligio...

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Givemeliberty wrote:
He championed for his idea of positive Protestant Christianity to become the dominant religion in Germany. As clearly states in your link, and you know it.
He also demanded Christianity be taught in schools.
He clearly fought against secularism yes? From your own link.... And you know it.
Factually destroying you is always so easy yet so much fun. We really enjoy making you dance for our laughter and amusement puppet. Next time read your own link so you don't humiliate yourself okay?
Lmfao!:))
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Bwhahahahahahahahahhahhaha.... pfffftttt....excuse me.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No proof of not f*cking you mom. I'll bet your next post have proof of not f*cking you mom, either.
Quit lying you atheist piece of shit.
Delusional f*ck with no answer to provide for the proof of god. The single thing that would actually convince people that god is real and you cowards insult my mom over your lack of ability.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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What about the supporters who don't believe in God?
Is their adherence religiously inspired?
That just scratches the surface of your stupid post.
1. Adolf Hitler: Acting According to God's Will

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2

2. Adolf Hitler: Thanking God

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

3. Adolf Hitler: Deutschland Über Alles

I had so often sung 'Deutschland über Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5

4. Adolf Hitler: God's Grace Smiles

Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

- Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7

5. Adolf Hitler: Fulfilling God's Mission

What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8

6. Adolf Hitler: Fate of God

But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

7. Adolf Hitler: Sin Against the Will of God

In short, the results of miscegenation are always the following:(a) The level of the superior race becomes lowered; (b) physical and mental degeneration sets in, thus leading slowly but steadily towards a progressive drying up of the vital sap. The act which brings about such a development is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator. And as a sin this act will be avenged.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

8. Adolf Hitler: Sacrilege Against God

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

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9. Adolf Hitler: Confidence in God

Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 'remaking' of the Reich as they call it.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1

10. Adolf Hitler: Gold has Replaced God

It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 2

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Buck Crick fails again.

“Ungood doubleplus duckspeak.”

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Apr 11, 2013
 
It sure does :D

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Yet we have the same spirit of faith as he had who wrote, I have believed, and therefore have I spoken. We too believe, and therefore we speak.
2 Corinthians 4: 13

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11: 6

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
Romans 3: 28

So Jesus said to them,“Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain,‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
Matthew 17: 20

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Apr 11, 2013
 
Well everyone is civil on occasion even nuts like Siro.

Thanks for proving my point.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>on occasion

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Apr 11, 2013
 
Joe Sharkey? You mean the hehehe business traveler writer? Lol!

The guy who writes articles on beautiful churches for you to visit on vacation or on business? Lol! That Joe Sharkey?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh fatass how you humiliate yourself.

Now did Hitler want churches to step in line with his agenda? Of course as to be expected and that is the best any of your links can attest to.

Hitler: Through me Protestantism will become the primary religion in Germany.

Hitler: My feelings as a Christian points me to the lord and savior as a fighter.

Hitler adored Martin Luther for his anti Semitic rants often quoting him.

Hitler: The unprecedented rise of the Christian social party was to assume the deepest significance for me.

I could go on about Hitler insisting that Christianity be taught in all public school but it's just cruel at this point.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Are you ready to feel really stupid?

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Is the NY Times "Faux News"?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. ....

Word for Word/The Case Against the Nazis; How Hitler's Forces Planned To Destroy German Christianity
By JOE SHARKEY (NY Times)
Published: January 13, 2002

"The first installment, published last week on the Web site of the Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion ( www.camlaw.rutgers.edu/publications/law-relig... ), includes a 108-page outline prepared by O.S.S. investigators to aid Nuremberg prosecutors. The outline,''The Persecution of the Christian Churches,'' summarizes the Nazi plan to subvert and destroy German Christianity, which it calls ''an integral part of the National Socialist scheme of world conquest.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/13/weekinrevie...

Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahh ahaahahha....<cough!>, pffffftttt...

THE NAZIÂ’S PERSECUTION OF RELIGION AS A WAR CRIME: THE OSSÂ’S RESPONSE
WITHIN THE NUREMBERG TRIALS PROCESS
http://lawandreligion.com/sites/lawandreligio...

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#163299
Apr 11, 2013
 
If you wish to disqualify RR's link say so. Otherwise my facts stand and you know it.

Btw Buck? Lawandreligon.com ?

Are you for real? I mean seriously Buck? Why not just use another Christian apologetic website?

Goodness all that fat must be impeding blood flow to your brain.

Bottom line Hitler was a lifelong Christian who adored Martin Luther. He wished to champion his version of Protestantism across Germany and required Christianity be taught in school all the while bemoaning secular societies and atheists as evil godless lovers of communism.... Hey that last one sounds like many theist posters on topix!

Thanks for dancing puppet. Go check on your fiancé Dave to make sure he hasn't lost any fingers today :)
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<quoted text>Bwhahahahahahahahahhah haha....pfffftttt....excuse me.

“I see quantum effects”

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Released when? You were already soundly humiliated on this and quite frankly I am surprised you even attempted that fail again.
I notice you couldn't refute anything I posted fatboy. Oh that's right because I posted fact and not Faux News opinion pieces.
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He figures that if he leaves for a while, he can come in and start spouting his tired BS to a new crew of sheeple and it will impress them.

“I see quantum effects”

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Apr 11, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Need I share some of your comments on the Dawkins thread to show how insane and ironic this post of your's is?
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You don't really need to go to any other threads.

And check out siro in other threads.

I think you'll find some interesting similarities.
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Buck Crick wrote:
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I accept your advice with the same sincerity with which it is offered.
None.
Zzzz yawn

I'm so sorry your valued copy of the encyclopedia Moronica© Was lost in your recent tragedy.

Not to worry the road to recovery is long

I can tell by the tenor of your post how your progress is doing at the home

Keep up the good fight someday you may get back to a working Brain cell

it is fighting for dominance now
Thorazine 500 mg should help

;)
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-Skeptic- wrote:
Buck Crick fails again.
What did you expect success?

This guy is so narcissistic I wager he hugs himself hourly

'Butt Crack' has a more than a few loose screws

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We do see that a lot on here yes? Christhole gets humiliated they take a break, put some ice on it only to return with the same tired BS that we have already factually demolished dozens if not hundreds of times.

It seems they don't really care about the truth as much as they care about coddling their delusions.
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<quoted text>He figures that if he leaves for a while, he can come in and start spouting his tired BS to a new crew of sheeple and it will impress them.

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