Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#162937 Apr 2, 2013
From the current CIA Factbook:

"Religions:

"Field info displayed for all countries in alpha order. Christian 33.39%(of which Roman
Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%), Muslim 22.74%, Hindu 13.8%, Buddhist 6.77%, Sikh 0.35%, Jewish 0.22%, Baha'i 0.11%, other religions 10.95%, non-religious 9.66%, atheists 2.01%(2010 est.)"

So the CIA actually says the estimate is from 2010, but they don't say how the it was made. Looking at the entries for individual countries, it appears that the CIA relies on local extra-agency sources for the proportions in each country and compiles the worldwide statistics from there. Some of those statistics show the hallmarks of estimates that are not based on actual studies. I get suspicious when the proportions are too neat like the 80%/19%/1% ratio seen for Afghanistan or the 50%/25%/24%/1% for Zimbabwe. The estimates for China are incredibly farfetched--Daoist (Taoist), Buddhist, Christian 3%-4%, Muslim 1%-2% note: officially atheist (2002 est.)--and account for only 4%-6% of the population. The ones for India are from a 2001 census and don't account for atheists at all, perhaps because theism is not necessarily a part of one of the major religions.

Given all of that, the estimate in the CIA Factbook seems to be less than precise.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#162939 Apr 2, 2013
A word about sources: there are original sources and secondary sources--and tertiary sources and so on. I prefer original sources. When perusing Wikipedia (one of my favorite sites, by the way), I usually finish up by following the links in the reference section.

The questions you should be asking yourself when you are evaluating information from Wikipedia, Britannica, the CIA Factbook, or adherents.com , are: where did the data come from?; what is its original source?; How as the data collected and analyzed?; and how old is it?. Very often, that data traces back to the Pew Forum, ARIS, Gallup, or a government statistical agency. Only by going to those original sources can you look at the all-important metadata so that you can evaluate its accuracy.

The CIA Factbook is a good case in point. The don't collect or analyze data on religious demographics. Rather, they rely on the best local data that they can find. The quality of that data varies widely from one country to the next. Some of the data is recent and fairly precise, but much is sloppy and/or old. This is especially true of the less developed Asian and African nations as well as a substantial number of Islamic nations. These nations account for more than half of the Earth's population, so the CIA data is insufficient for evaluating trends or even estimating the current worldwide demography.

Even Gallup, Pew, and ARIS have to rely on old and imprecise data in countries where collecting the data themselves is not possible for political or logistical reasons. As a result, the largest scale at which accurate estimates and trends can be evaluated is nationally, and that only for nations that facilitate or at least allow competent demographic collection, analysis, and publication.

When you look at the data at that level of detail, you will have to agree that, while the trends for some nations seem clear, worldwide religious demographic trends are unclear.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162943 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
As you said, Non aryan. Hitler believed Jesus was an aryan and was working to promote positive Christianity, his own take on the Protestant church.
He wanted this to become the main church in Germany, again from YOUR link!
Every action you mention here is him working towards that goal of his positive Christianity for Germany. Basically mimicking what the King of England had done.
Again from your own link.... Now you were going to be providing these historians or???
<quoted text>
Are you gonna link or site any ONE of the quotes you've posted?

No?

You lose.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#162945 Apr 2, 2013
It was from your own link my reading comprehension lacking puppet. Are you unable to click your own links now?

Hitler wanted positive Christianity to take over Germany in the form of Protestantism.... Again from your own link.

Checkmate
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Are you gonna link or site any ONE of the quotes you've posted?

No?

You lose.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162946 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It was from your own link my reading comprehension lacking puppet. Are you unable to click your own links now?
Hitler wanted positive Christianity to take over Germany in the form of Protestantism.... Again from your own link.
Checkmate
<quoted text>
Dumb ass. Hitler wanted to replace Christianity with Nazism (which isn't a religion).

I see your checkmate and raise you a bitch-slap.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#162947 Apr 2, 2013
Positive Christianity, his own vision of the Protestant religion, from your own source thanks.

Care for some bacon?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Dumb ass. Hitler wanted to replace Christianity with Nazism (which isn't a religion).

I see your checkmate and raise you a bitch-slap.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#162948 Apr 2, 2013
Anyone else having flashbacks of when Buck confused chess and poker terms?

Yes just when you think they couldn't get any dumber.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>

I see your checkmate and raise you a bitch-slap.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#162949 Apr 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Dumb ass. Hitler wanted to replace Christianity with Nazism (which isn't a religion).
I see your checkmate and raise you a bitch-slap.
Hitler didn't want to replace christianity with Nazism. Where did you read that?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#162950 Apr 2, 2013
He pulled it out of his christhole.
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler didn't want to replace christianity with Nazism. Where did you read that?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#162951 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Anyone else having flashbacks of when Buck confused chess and poker terms?
Yes just when you think they couldn't get any dumber.
<quoted text>
it's like arguing with a person with a hole in his head.

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#162952 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It was from your own link my reading comprehension lacking puppet. Are you unable to click your own links now?
Hitler wanted positive Christianity to take over Germany in the form of Protestantism.... Again from your own link.
Checkmate
<quoted text>
Then when neither church would support him he formed his own.

http://www.ucg.org/reemergence-reichstag/
Lincoln

United States

#162953 Apr 2, 2013
Q-bot-hole must contain something worth posting but as of yet..... nothing

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162954 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Positive Christianity, his own vision of the Protestant religion, from your own source thanks.
Care for some bacon?
<quoted text>
Sigh.....

Did your 1st grade teacher get frustrated at you because she had to repeat 1+1=2 a thousand times to you...?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162955 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Anyone else having flashbacks of when Buck confused chess and poker terms?
Yes just when you think they couldn't get any dumber.
<quoted text>
There's that awesome atheist memory....

Clue: It wasn't Buck.
Hint: It was a figure of speech.

I don't expect you to understand.
Bongo

Bayport, NY

#162956 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He pulled it out of his christhole.
<quoted text>
Do you ever shut up thou worthless deviant psycho?
Mary Magdalena

United States

#162958 Apr 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Answers in genesis langoliers? Seriously?
Lmao

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=\=
Mary Magdalena

United States

#162959 Apr 2, 2013
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>Social Darwinism is an ideology of society that seeks to apply biological concepts of Darwinism or of evolutionary theory to sociology and politics, often with the assumption that conflict between groups in society leads to social progress as superior groups outcompete inferior ones.

The name social Darwinism is a modern name given to the various theories of society that emerged in England and the United States in the 1870s, which, it is alleged, sought to apply biological concepts to sociology and politics.[1][2] The term social Darwinism gained widespread currency when used in 1944 to oppose these earlier concepts. Today, because of the negative connotations of the theory of social Darwinism, especially after the atrocities of the Second World War (including the Holocaust), few people would describe themselves as social Darwinists and the term is generally seen as pejorative.[3]

Social Darwinism is generally understood to use the concepts of struggle for existence and survival of the fittest to justify social policies which make no distinction between those able to support themselves and those unable to support themselves. Many such views stress competition between individuals in laissez-faire capitalism; but the ideology has also motivated ideas of eugenics, scientific racism, imperialism,[4] fascism, Nazism and struggle between national or racial groups.[5][6]

Opponents of evolution theory have often maintained that social Darwinism is a logical entailment of a belief in evolutionary theory, while biologists and historians maintain that it is rather a perversion of Charles Darwin's ideas.[7] While most scholars recognize historical links between Darwin's theory and forms of social Darwinism, they also maintain that social Darwinism is not a necessary consequence of the principles of biological evolution[8] and that using biological evolution as a justification for policies of inequality amounts to committing the naturalistic fallacy.

Charles Darwin did not subscribe to this ideology.[9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism
Charles Darwin did subscribe to this!

"Organs of extreme Perfection and Complication. To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.

Charles Darwin
Mary Magdalena

United States

#162960 Apr 2, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>I see, pity he didn't succeed.
"KJV" I like your style!

Keep it my friend.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#162961 Apr 2, 2013
nizam wrote:
Islam is the true religion
It could be.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#162962 Apr 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Because he thought of its implications first you twit. It's got his freaking name in it.
Oh wow, did he just say that?
Tooooooo Funnnnnnnny!

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