Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162641 Mar 27, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus is a recorded historic fact. The tooth fairy is not. The Bible says Jesus is God & Creator. Your relationship with him is just one of rejection, and ignorance.

In the end this will be of no excuse.
Hey!

I got some big KA-Ching from the tooth fairy.

You can't tell ME it doesn't exist.

I have evidence.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#162642 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I see that you can't find a contradiction in the bible of Genesis 1:1....
I win.
Adam and Eve didn't know they were doing anything wrong until after they ate the apple.

Yet they were punished.

How does that work again?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#162643 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Agnostic atheist is an oxymoron.
Nope.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
A true atheist does not believe in the existence of deities. They just don't.
There's no need to add "true" to atheist.

Atheists don't believe in the existence of any deities. Theists believe in the existence of at least one.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
So how could someone that doesn't believe in the existence of deities also not "know for sure" if deities exist?
Really?

The only thing you can know for sure is the truth of your own existence. Beyond that, you're trusting perceptions that can be fooled.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162644 Mar 27, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>Your denial will not change anything. The historians who record Jesus, Pilate, the crucifixion and Christians, have the final word on the matter. You only lie to yourself.


Here is a quote from the Encyclopedia Britannica concerning the testimony of the many independent secular accounts of Jesus of Nazareth: "These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_J...


The Evidence for the Existence of Jesus
http://youtu.be/cDoMerykoCY


Just shows your ignorance has no credibility.
Now google "historicity of Jesus' resurrection".

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#162645 Mar 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
All you can make is "filler" comments.
You don't have any balls to 1. prove your god or 2. admit that you're wrong about it.
Snivelling creationist cowards the lot of you.
Too easy...

All you can make is "filler" comments.

You don't have any balls to 1. disprove my god or 2. admit that you're wrong about it.

Sniveling evolutionist cowards the lot of you.

(I fixed your "Snivelling".....)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#162646 Mar 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no proof of god, stop lying about your hallucinations creationist wastes of space.
Go back and cross out the part where your bible claims all atheists are fools.
Yes, go ahead and cross out that hatred from your religious book, there's a good liar.
Oh right, you want to keep the hate in the bible. Fine, then don't complain when we rip your myth to shreds with facts.
Aw Septic, why so angry?

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#162647 Mar 27, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Adam and Eve didn't know they were doing anything wrong until after they ate the apple.
Yet they were punished.
How does that work again?
Dude, what?

They were told not to eat of that tree.

They did.

They were punished.

That's how punishment works.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162648 Mar 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
There is no evidence that anyone called Jesus existed.
Lol

http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_histor...

"Christus, the founder of the [Christian] name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius. But the
pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, by through the city of
Rome also." Annals XV, 44

-Cornelius Tacitus, a 1st and 2nd century Roman historian.

Considered one of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Tacitus verifies the Biblical account of Jesus' execution at the hands of Pontius Pilate who governed Judea from 26-36 A.D. during the reign of Tiberius.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#162649 Mar 27, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't.
There are three types of mathematicians: those that can count and those that don't.
There are two types of people: those that divide people into two types and those that don't.
Actually there are three kinds of people , those I owe money. Those that owe me money.
And.....Those that I don't owe and they don't owe me at all.:)

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#162650 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Dude, what?
They were told not to eat of that tree.
They did.
They were punished.
That's how punishment works.
But they didn't know they weren't supposed to disobey until AFTER.

They didn't know it was wrong to disobey.

They didn't know.

They COULDN'T know - that's the way the deity set it up.

They were NOT wrong to eat.
Rush

Columbus, NE

#162651 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaawwwww you're so sweet.
(This is the first time you've told me you hate me)
*cries*
Congrats! I remember what it was like my first time..........Now next is when he hopes you are dead, or tells you to kill yourself.*sigh* Young love.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#162652 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess if you idolize Hitler.....
He did have something to be admired, but how he used this is.
Far less than audible.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162653 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Agnostic atheist is an oxymoron.

A true atheist does not believe in the existence of deities. They just don't.

So how could someone that doesn't believe in the existence of deities also not "know for sure" if deities exist?
You really do have reading comprehension issues, don't you.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162654 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.

Again, God has no beginning. His existence is not based on the existence of the universe.

Do try.

At least try.
And you know this how, exactly?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162655 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I cannot prove to you that God exists. That's between you & God.

However, you asked me to "Present my case that god exists", not prove it.

I believe that God exists because He has answered my prayers, I have heard His voice and I have felt His hand.

Case presented.

Now, biblically contradict Genesis 1:1....
Does he sound like Morgan Freeman?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#162656 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol
http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_histor...
"Christus, the founder of the [Christian] name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius. But the
pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, by through the city of
Rome also." Annals XV, 44
-Cornelius Tacitus, a 1st and 2nd century Roman historian.
Considered one of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Tacitus verifies the Biblical account of Jesus' execution at the hands of Pontius Pilate who governed Judea from 26-36 A.D. during the reign of Tiberius.
Tacitus was allegedly writing of a time 30-odd years after the Nazarene's execution.
He reports that the execution occurred.
He alleges that an annoying cult had sprung up since.

He was also writing of the Great Fire - for which Nero really wanted a scapegoat.

Wonder whether it's even worth pointing out that the oldest surviving manuscript is from the 11th century...
Rush

Columbus, NE

#162657 Mar 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey!
I got some big KA-Ching from the tooth fairy.
You can't tell ME it doesn't exist.
I have evidence.
LOL What the hell does every body have against the tooth fairy? What's next, Easter Bunny stew? The Easter Bunny comes with the candy,and then comes the tooth fairy. If you believe in one, you have to belive in the other.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#162658 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, first you have to prove that it is a black hole.
<quoted text>
Why?
Your belief in God is between you & God. I'm out of it.
The conditions defines as such , have been proven to a reasonable degree of accuracy , that to refute them you will have to explain why it is not one. Black holes exist, no as exception to the rule, but rather...as a axiom rule of universal law.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#162659 Mar 27, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>
I dunno 'bout Michio.
The guy's interesting... but, he's become sort of a media wh_re.
He's been on Art Bell's radio show several times!
That alone says something.
Just my 2 bits.
Exactly, he is advanced, but not extraordinarily so.
But him as well as others in tele-teaching are very popular figures and deserve respect for sharing their knowledge. He is a very likeable theoretical physicist, who is not one to challenge classical thinking with extravagance.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#162660 Mar 27, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is a recorded historic fact.
There is a fair amount of debate about that. But I don't find it all that unreasonable that a wandering preacher saying essentially what was attributed to Jesus existed and was put to death by Roman authorities becuse of his association with the Zealots.

That doesn't mean that his legend didn't grpow over time and was written mostly by people who believed something far different than the original person.
The tooth fairy is not. The Bible says Jesus is God & Creator.
The identification of Jesus with God is a much later development and was not part of the original Christian teachings. Even so, all that this would mena is that the Bible is wrong. Again.
Your relationship with him is just one of rejection, and ignorance.
In the end this will be of no excuse.
I am fairly aware of the *claims* of Christianity and its history. That is why I realize it is a myth.

Your scare tactics to induce someone to go along with your system in spite of disbelief is dishonest and immoral.

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