Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#162599 Mar 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Just like the apostles.
Only Michio deals with real science, not magic.
Even God....

"What was God thinking when the universe was created? That’s where we are going with this thing [the super collider].… The universe… is quite beautiful… it could have been random… it could have been horrible… that’s what Einstein believed. 11:51-11:52 P.M., 1/29/2010, Coast to Coast A.M.. his reply to the host Art Bell"

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#162600 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You claim "it isn't God".
Your claim, your onus.
That's not the same as making a positive claim, you said we claimed that something did, now you admit we just say we don't know. So how are we suppose to preach about "I don't know?"
CunningLinguist

Winter Garden, FL

#162601 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I see that you can't find a contradiction in the bible of Genesis 1:1....
I win.
LOSER!

In Genesis, Chapter 1, God creates the animals as well as plants and trees before he creates man. But, in Chapter 2, God creates man previous to his creating animals or plants.

Contradiction.
Yes... "faith is blind" and you are blind as bat, by your own design!
CunningLinguist

Winter Garden, FL

#162602 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Even God....
"What was God thinking when the universe was created? That’s where we are going with this thing [the super collider].… The universe… is quite beautiful… it could have been random… it could have been horrible… that’s what Einstein believed. 11:51-11:52 P.M., 1/29/2010, Coast to Coast A.M.. his reply to the host Art Bell"
I would leave Einstein out of your arguments RR.

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." ~Albert Einstein

"Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.... Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me." ~Albert Einstein

"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." ~Albert Einstein

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." ~Albert Einstein

"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
-Albert Einstein

Since: Mar 13

Bursa, Turkey

#162603 Mar 27, 2013
When we leave this world, we are going back to God himself.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162604 Mar 27, 2013
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Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#162605 Mar 27, 2013
It would only be easy if the christard was honest.
Aerobatty wrote:
Anybody want to make an easy $10k?
http://living.msn.com/life-inspired/the-daily...

“FAITH IN MANKIND”

Since: Mar 13

AT PEACE WITH NATURE

#162606 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, no, no.
It's YOUR reading comprehension that's failing YOU.
You said you can find a contradiction in EVERY bible verse.
Find the contradiction for Genesis 1:1.
(Not Genesis 1:2, 1:3, 2:4-25.........)
Genesis 1:1.
Go.
Genesis 1

New International Version (NIV)
The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

I don't know if you would call this is a contradiction but -

Where was God before this "beginning"?

Heavens and the earth must have existed in some form or God could not have "hovered" above the waters.

At best what God did was to reshape what all ready existed.

So was Genesis 1:1 truly the beginning or was the beginning when the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep? There was according to Genesis 1:2 something that already existed.

Like a newborn baby's beginning does not begin when it is born in human form. It begins at conception looking much different.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#162607 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You claim "it isn't God".
Your claim, your onus.
Using your logic, you have to prove we have detected at the center of our galaxy is not a black hole.

Using our logic, you have to give actual evidence there *is* a ruler of the universe.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162609 Mar 27, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
LOSER!
In Genesis, Chapter 1, God creates the animals as well as plants and trees before he creates man. But, in Chapter 2, God creates man previous to his creating animals or plants.
Contradiction.
Yes... "faith is blind" and you are blind as bat, by your own design!
No, no, no....

What is a biblical contradiction of Genesis 1:1?

(Not Genesis.....)

(Genesis 1:1)

I'll wait.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162610 Mar 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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That's not the same as making a positive claim, you said we claimed that something did, now you admit we just say we don't know. So how are we suppose to preach about "I don't know?"
So you don't know if there's a God...

Ah.

So you're not an atheist....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162611 Mar 27, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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I would leave Einstein out of your arguments RR.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." ~Albert Einstein
"Thus I came...to a deep religiosity, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of 12. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached a conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.... Suspicion against every kind of authority grew out of this experience...an attitude which has never left me." ~Albert Einstein
"I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it." ~Albert Einstein
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." ~Albert Einstein
"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
-Albert Einstein
LOL, we were talkin about michio kaku, not Einstein.

But your efforts are cute.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162612 Mar 27, 2013
sedona tranquility wrote:
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Genesis 1
New International Version (NIV)
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
I don't know if you would call this is a contradiction but -
Where was God before this "beginning"?
God has no beginning. "The beginning" is referring to our universe, not God.
Heavens and the earth must have existed in some form or God could not have "hovered" above the waters.
HA HA !!!!

That would be Genesis 1:2, which is after 1:1.....

Just sayin.
At best what God did was to reshape what all ready existed.
What existed before the beginning? You'll hafta have some examples of that before reaching this laughable conclusion.
So was Genesis 1:1 truly the beginning or was the beginning when the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep? There was according to Genesis 1:2 something that already existed.
Ugh...

For the "freethinkers".....

1 comes before 2.
Like a newborn baby's beginning does not begin when it is born in human form. It begins at conception looking much different.
Not true. A baby at conception is created by something, not nothing (sperm & egg).

So you can find no contradiction, either?

Awesome.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162613 Mar 27, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Using your logic, you have to prove we have detected at the center of our galaxy is not a black hole.


No, first you have to prove that it is a black hole.
Using our logic, you have to give actual evidence there *is* a ruler of the universe.
Why?

Your belief in God is between you & God. I'm out of it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#162614 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So you don't know if there's a God...
Ah.
So you're not an atheist....
I am an agnostic atheist, there could be a god, but it's not the one in the bible, nor the koran, nor any of the ones presented by any other human at all. Thus far there is none, since no evidence of one has been presented. If the evidence is presented I will give it some serious thought, like I do with everything, but if there is no evidence then your claim is dismissed, ignored, and myth. I hold everything to that same standard, it's why I don't believe in leprechauns, the tooth fairy, or Santa Claus.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#162615 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, first you have to prove that it is a black hole.
<quoted text>
Why?
Your belief in God is between you & God. I'm out of it.
That's just it, they have no belief in your god, so it would be between you and your god ... but then you bring everyone else into it by asserting that your god is fact, and then by asserting that your myths about your god are also fact. You do that even when you just deny any science that opposes your myths.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162616 Mar 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I am an agnostic atheist, there could be a god, but it's not the one in the bible, nor the koran, nor any of the ones presented by any other human at all. Thus far there is none, since no evidence of one has been presented. If the evidence is presented I will give it some serious thought, like I do with everything, but if there is no evidence then your claim is dismissed, ignored, and myth. I hold everything to that same standard, it's why I don't believe in leprechauns, the tooth fairy, or Santa Claus.
Agnostic atheist?

O_o

LOL

An agnostic atheist is a person who holds the view that the existence of a deity cannot be proven nor disproven, but typically leans towards the idea of there not being one.

Do you believe there *may* be a god?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162617 Mar 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
That's just it, they have no belief in your god, so it would be between you and your god ... but then you bring everyone else into it by asserting that your god is fact, and then by asserting that your myths about your god are also fact. You do that even when you just deny any science that opposes your myths.
There is no science that opposes, denies or disproves God.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#162618 Mar 27, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Michio Kaku.
I dunno 'bout Michio.

The guy's interesting... but, he's become sort of a media wh_re.

He's been on Art Bell's radio show several times!

That alone says something.

Just my 2 bits.
Largelanguage

Wrexham, UK

#162619 Mar 27, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There is no science that opposes, denies or disproves God.
But there is proof you are a worthless human being. I hate you, when I got to know you, I hope that is the same for everyone else, you best bet you don't get intimate or open with anyone anymore, so you cannot be hated.

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