Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161849 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>They never had the spark of true intellect struck within their heads. They got so very dependent on others telling them they are intellectual because they follow the line they are being fed, acting upon their emotions, that they can never strike it on their own.

Animated puppets dancing to the tune of others. Collections of mass and energy being directed from without.
Boy, you have a telnet for getting things bass ackwards.

I'll give you that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161850 Mar 24, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>Quite true, look at the rent-a-mob demonstrations in favour of left wing causes. The overwhelming majority of those mobs are herded like sheep by one or two professional career 'socialists' and the ones who organised it arent even there but probably in some swish restaurant on some sort of government grant.
It is 'groupthink' as they have forgotten or been indoctrinated not to think for themselves.
As a result you get stupid crap posted when these professional victims cannot respond rationally.
Like the crap below.....
KittenKoder wrote, "<quoted text>
Why do you hate bunnies?"
So...why DO you hate bunnies?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161851 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Astrology & physics aren't the only means of acquiring intelligence, athibot.
Rofl.

You're half right.

Perfect for a halfwit.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161852 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Because listening to you whine, complain and froth at the mouth is much more entertaining.
I sense another meltdown coming.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161853 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
" History
The movement was founded on May 1, 1776, in Ingolstadt (Upper Bavaria) as the Order of the Illuminati, with an initial membership of five,[2] by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt (d. 1830),[3] who was the first lay professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt.[1] It was made up of freethinkers as an offshoot of the Enlightenment and seems to have been modeled on the Freemasons.[4] The Illuminati's members took a vow of secrecy and pledged obedience to their superiors. Members were divided into three main classes, each with several degrees, and many Illuminati chapters drew membership from existing Masonic lodges."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
"and pledged obedience to their superiors"
?
Free thinkers?
Are you trying to say there can be no order or discipline within a
institution?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161854 Mar 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Boy, you have a telnet for getting things bass ackwards.

I'll give you that.
Talent.

Stupid autocorrect.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161855 Mar 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Rofl.
You're half right.
Perfect for a halfwit.
If you say that, then you half understand.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161856 Mar 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I sense another meltdown coming.
Staring at yourself again?

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#161857 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Astrology & physics aren't the only means of acquiring intelligence, athibot.
Hmmm, interesting. Personally I don't know too many people who think Astrology is a means of acquiring intelligence or any scientific knowledge.

But I can understand someone who believes Biblical mythology might also consider Astrology, Tarot Card Reading, Reading Tea Leaves, Reading tossed Bones, soothsaying, etc would all provide one with knowledge.

I and my fellow atheists rely mostly on Science,(like Astronomy, Physics, biology, micro-biology, geology, paleontology, arthropology et. al) mathematics, observations, experimentation etc to understand the universe. Its a heck of a lot more reliable than a book of fiction written by a bunch of nomadic desert dwellers from the Bronze Age

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161858 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Staring at yourself again?
It's ok RR.

Don't cry.

You'll rust up your assault rifle.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161859 Mar 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm, interesting. Personally I don't know too many people who think Astrology is a means of acquiring intelligence or any scientific knowledge.
But I can understand someone who believes Biblical mythology might also consider Astrology, Tarot Card Reading, Reading Tea Leaves, Reading tossed Bones, soothsaying, etc would all provide one with knowledge.
I and my fellow atheists rely mostly on Science,(like Astronomy, Physics, biology, micro-biology, geology, paleontology, arthropology et. al) mathematics, observations, experimentation etc to understand the universe. Its a heck of a lot more reliable than a book of fiction written by a bunch of nomadic desert dwellers from the Bronze Age
Right. That's one way of acquiring knowledge...

But not the only way.

I hafta LOL at what you think you "know" about the universe.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#161860 Mar 24, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
It's ok RR.
Don't cry.
You'll rust up your assault rifle.
Hold me...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161861 Mar 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmm, interesting. Personally I don't know too many people who think Astrology is a means of acquiring intelligence or any scientific knowledge.

But I can understand someone who believes Biblical mythology might also consider Astrology, Tarot Card Reading, Reading Tea Leaves, Reading tossed Bones, soothsaying, etc would all provide one with knowledge.

I and my fellow atheists rely mostly on Science,(like Astronomy, Physics, biology, micro-biology, geology, paleontology, arthropology et. al) mathematics, observations, experimentation etc to understand the universe. Its a heck of a lot more reliable than a book of fiction written by a bunch of nomadic desert dwellers from the Bronze Age
RR would hurt himself.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#161862 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Right. That's one way of acquiring knowledge...

But not the only way.

I hafta LOL at what you think you "know" about the universe.
No.

That was 8 or 9 ways of understanding the true nature of the world we live in.

And the really neat thing about them is that where they overlap, they confirm each other in entirely different and independent ways.

That's when things start reaching the point where we can say we "know", as you put it.

Nothing corroborates your bible.

I'm willing to bet you've never even read your bible.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#161863 Mar 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you trying to say there can be no order or discipline within a
institution?
Was an organization of "freethinkers", not an institution. Institutions have bull goose looneys.

BTW, your Illuminati was started by a Jesuit. Was the only one with brains to do so, I guess. It's purpose was to subvert the existing order and replace it with its own. Replete with your order and discipline and hierarchy, etc.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161864 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Was an organization of "freethinkers", not an institution. Institutions have bull goose looneys.
BTW, your Illuminati was started by a Jesuit. Was the only one with brains to do so, I guess. It's purpose was to subvert the existing order and replace it with its own. Replete with your order and discipline and hierarchy, etc.

No Dave it was started to share knowledge that was suppressed by the church. It was heresy to study forbidden knowledge and the church would punish people for conducting study that was leading to anything contradictory to church doctrine.

Since: Sep 08

La Junta, CO

#161865 Mar 24, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
No Dave it was started to share knowledge that was suppressed by the church. It was heresy to study forbidden knowledge and the church would punish people for conducting study that was leading to anything contradictory to church doctrine.
"Founder of the Illuminati

On 1 May 1776 Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists". He adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Although the Order was not egalitarian or democratic internally, it sought to promote the doctrines of equality and freedom throughout society.[17]

The actual character of the society was an elaborate network of spies and counter-spies. Each isolated cell of initiates reported to a superior, whom they did not know, a party structure that was effectively adopted by some later groups.[17]

Weishaupt was initiated into the Masonic Lodge "Theodor zum guten Rath", at Munich in 1777. His project of "illumination, enlightening the understanding by the sun of reason, which will dispel the clouds of superstition and of prejudice" was an unwelcome reform.[17] Soon however he had developed gnostic mysteries of his own, with the goal of "perfecting human nature" through re-education to achieve a communal state with nature, freed of government and organized religion. He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Freemasonry.[17]

Weishaupt's radical rationalism and vocabulary was not likely to succeed. Writings that were intercepted in 1784 were interpreted as seditious, and the Society was banned by the government of Karl Theodor, Elector of Bavaria, in 1784. Weishaupt lost his position at the University of Ingolstadt and fled Bavaria."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

Forerunner of today's nutcase liberals.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#161866 Mar 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>

Forerunner of today's nutcase liberals.
Ha ha hah, you're funny.
That could be true in a small way, but hardly connectable except in a twisted way.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#161867 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think a diploma has anything to do with being successful and/or happy?
I did earn a high school diploma, nitwit.
Again, your assumptions are getting tiresome and boring.
How was that? Since you didn't pay attention in algebra, especially letters in algebra, and calculas.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#161868 Mar 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
HA HA !!
I say that my wife rapes me and you think that's a bad thing...
Child.
Come on RR, laughing with "HA HA!!" and calling me "Child" and going in a spin only makes me happy to see how far I've got with you. You are losing it.

Yes, RR, it IS a bad thing. Consent in marriage should always be done, I'm sorry to explain too much to you, but someone who doesn't care about consent clearly does not love their spouse.

You are being used, RR, accept that.

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