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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#236482 Sep 8, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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God has been compassionate by giving us believers the means to work hard. And giving us the opportunity to prove ourselves as being worthy of sustainable employment.
CHECK!! One must be a believer in "God" in order to have a sustainable employment.

Does that mean you have placed wealth and money over "God"?

Hmmmmmm - not very enlightening to say the least.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Believe me God has been very compassionate to me. Iíve always had good work and a successful career. Not once have I stood in a soup line. Nor have I had to go to charity to have a nice place to sleep or something for my family to eat.
maybe you should venture down that road, to realize your humility instead of realize your pride.
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Not that receiving those things are bad but being in the position to give to charity is far better than being a receiver of charity. And God has always blessed me to be on the giving side.
Many folks say this exact thing, "There are a lot worst off people than I." I am one of those people who has said this.

"God" must not have blessed me as much as "He" with you.....you probably feel lucky that you have additional amenities that others don't, huh? Lucky!!!
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>Having work is a blessing and it brings prosperity.
Of course it does.....that's what money does - brings prosperity. But "money" is of the devil.

Jesus wants you to give everything you own to charity. Since you haven't done this yet, please don not include yourself as a so-called "Christian", okay? We don't want to get you mixed up with the homeless family who goes to church every Sunday to pray for a home to live in, instead of the street.....OR....three meals a day on a table that isn't shared with 100s of others, or placed on a reusable tray.

*sighs*

Hypocrite.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#236483 Sep 8, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What is an atheist faith?
They never answer that question coherently...
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236484 Sep 8, 2014
I don't believe you can prove the horseshoe crab's DNA hasn't changed in 500 million years.
Come on, bring some peer reviewed evidence to the table.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Just look at the 500 million old fossils. They look just like they do today.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236485 Sep 8, 2014
I'm straight but not homophobic.
I'm also not a cheater.
So I wouldn't fit into your world.
waaasssuuup wrote:
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the Bible reveals how you sodomites think child or any type rape is a-ok as long as it feels good in your groins and this is why you sodomites don't like said Bible!;-)
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236486 Sep 8, 2014
Arbeit macht frei.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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God has been compassionate by giving us believers the means to work hard.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236487 Sep 8, 2014
Many believers say you can't apply logic to their god, but then try to apply epic fail pseudo science to justify their fatally flawed position.
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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In addition....over 150K people die daily in the world.....is the poster concerned about those?
No.....KM is just so brainwashed, he is afraid to admit facts and the truths behind the semantics he sweeps under teh rug.
How else do so-called "Christians" garner followers - by applying non-bearing analogies - instead of real-life occurrences and facts.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236488 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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The Bible - vague and inconsistent
Science - specific and has continuity
Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
- this is very general and not very telling of how things came to be.
- When any universal object comes into existence - it is usually "formless" and then takes upon a form as years and centuries go by. According to how planets and other universal bodies of matter are created - dust and matter will continue to be attracted to and encircle a magnetic point until eventually, the matter and debris are pulled together with quantum particles.
- Nothing like that here. You are wrong.
Science and the Big Bang:
- although still considered a theory - it does contain many missing facts that the Bible does not hold, and/or suggest to be true.
Again - you are incorrect in your supposed belief.
"Big Bang Theory - Common Misconceptions
Th...came from, why it's here, or even where it is. All we really know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn't exist and neither did we."
http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
Genesis 1:1-2 (NASB)
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
Be specific with the passage. What is inconsistent?
That the universe came into existence initially the earth and stars were not formed?
That the three most common elements in the universe are hydrogen, helium and oxygen?
In fact, in your article they are surprised Creationists DON'T jump on the band wagon!
However, this site is more detailed:
http://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.ht...
"This early soup would have been impossible to look at, because light could not carry inside of it. "The free electrons would have caused light (photons) to scatter the way sunlight scatters from the water droplets in clouds," NASA stated. Over time, however, the free electrons met up with nuclei and created neutral atoms. This allowed light to shine through about 380,000 years after the Big Bang."
That hardly conflicts with the very next verses that follow, "darkness was over the surface of the deep..."
Genesis 1:3-5 (NASB)
3 Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
4 God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
I'm having fun, you?
Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#236489 Sep 8, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What is an atheist faith?
The factless hope that Jesus was a terrorist and Hitler was a Christian.

Do you understand what an oxymoron those two claims create?

Smirk smile.

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#236490 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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The Bible - vague and inconsistent
Science - specific and has continuity
Genesis 1:1
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."
- this is very general and not very telling of how things came to be.
- When any universal object comes into existence - it is usually "formless" and then takes upon a form as years and centuries go by. According to how planets and other universal bodies of matter are created - dust and matter will continue to be attracted to and encircle a magnetic point until eventually, the matter and debris are pulled together with quantum particles.
- Nothing like that here. You are wrong.
Science and the Big Bang:
- although still considered a theory - it does contain many missing facts that the Bible does not hold, and/or suggest to be true.
Again - you are incorrect in your supposed belief.
"Big Bang Theory - Common Misconceptions
There are many misconceptions surrounding the Big Bang theory. For example, we tend to imagine a giant explosion. Experts however say that there was no explosion; there was (and continues to be) an expansion. Rather than imagining a balloon popping and releasing its contents, imagine a balloon expanding: an infinitesimally small balloon expanding to the size of our current universe.
Another misconception is that we tend to image the singularity as a little fireball appearing somewhere in space. According to the many experts however, space didn't exist prior to the Big Bang. Back in the late '60s and early '70s, when men first walked upon the moon, "three British astrophysicists, Steven Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose turned their attention to the Theory of Relativity and its implications regarding our notions of time. In 1968 and 1970, they published papers in which they extended Einstein's Theory of General Relativity to include measurements of time and space.1, 2 According to their calculations, time and space had a finite beginning that corresponded to the origin of matter and energy."3 The singularity didn't appear in space; rather, space began inside of the singularity. Prior to the singularity, nothing existed, not space, time, matter, or energy - nothing. So where and in what did the singularity appear if not in space? We don't know. We don't know where it came from, why it's here, or even where it is. All we really know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn't exist and neither did we."
http://www.big-bang-theory.com/
That IS what Christianity teaches. Nothing at all then God creates. It is a description, not an explanation of the beginning.
Thinking

Glasgow, UK

#236491 Sep 8, 2014
jesus died in a sex game because god forgot "forsaken" was the safe word.

Naughty forgetful god.
KiMare wrote:
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The factless hope that Jesus was a terrorist and Hitler was a Christian.
Do you understand what an oxymoron those two claims create?
Smirk smile.
Roll Tide

Alabaster, AL

#236492 Sep 8, 2014
religionislies wrote:
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There's no such thing as god and you're mentally ill for believing this crap.
You're also disrespectful of Atheists who don't believe in your lies with good reason.
Go back to your cult of Creationism and tell them you failed to convert any Atheists today.
It's good to know that you will permanently be stranded in Hell to burn alive forever.
Roll Tide

Alabaster, AL

#236493 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I really like and enjoy sucking my man's dick.
<quoted text>
You're a sick and demented bastard.

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#236495 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
CHECK!! One must be a believer in "God" in order to have a sustainable employment.
Does that mean you have placed wealth and money over "God"?
Hmmmmmm - not very enlightening to say the least.
<quoted text>
maybe you should venture down that road, to realize your humility instead of realize your pride.
<quoted text>
Many folks say this exact thing, "There are a lot worst off people than I." I am one of those people who has said this.
"God" must not have blessed me as much as "He" with you.....you probably feel lucky that you have additional amenities that others don't, huh? Lucky!!!
<quoted text>
Of course it does.....that's what money does - brings prosperity. But "money" is of the devil.
Jesus wants you to give everything you own to charity. Since you haven't done this yet, please don not include yourself as a so-called "Christian", okay? We don't want to get you mixed up with the homeless family who goes to church every Sunday to pray for a home to live in, instead of the street.....OR....three meals a day on a table that isn't shared with 100s of others, or placed on a reusable tray.
*sighs*
Hypocrite.
How can you be a new age spiritual leader if there no followers. Do you indeed have devotees or disciples?:)

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#236496 Sep 8, 2014
Roll Tide wrote:
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It's good to know that you will permanently be stranded in Hell to burn alive forever.
How can you burn alive in hell?

You go there after you're dead!

You can't be burning alive in hell! There is eternal torment and darkness of the soul, of course, but no one will be alive there, it is eternal death!

C'mon, put your thinking cap on!:)
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236497 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
CHECK!! One must be a believer in "God" in order to have a sustainable employment.
Does that mean you have placed wealth and money over "God"?
Hmmmmmm - not very enlightening to say the least.
<quoted text>
maybe you should venture down that road, to realize your humility instead of realize your pride.
<quoted text>
Many folks say this exact thing, "There are a lot worst off people than I." I am one of those people who has said this.
"God" must not have blessed me as much as "He" with you.....you probably feel lucky that you have additional amenities that others don't, huh? Lucky!!!
<quoted text>
Of course it does.....that's what money does - brings prosperity. But "money" is of the devil.
Jesuaas wants you to give everything you own to charity. Since you haven't done this yet, please don not include yourself as a so-called "Christian", okay? We don't want to get you mixed up with the homeless family who goes to church every Sunday to pray for a home to live in, instead of the street.....OR....three meals a day on a table that isn't shared with 100s of others, or placed on a reusable tray.
*sighs*
Hypocrite.
Thank you for taking the time to read and comment.
In psychology there this disorder called a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Among your displays of the DunningĖKruger effect. I also think you may have Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
What a wonderful specimen you would make at the local University that teaches clinical psychology. Itís really a shame some graduate student couldnít study your mind. I honestly think you would make a wonderful subject for psychologist explore.
Just think of the contribution you could make to the science of psychology. And the thousands of people that could benefit from you being studied. Itís probably not that often they could interview someone that thinks so highly of themselves as you do.
I think you should consider donating your mind to the bettering of mankind. If you would let them study you. They may come up with a viable treatment for individuals such as yourself. And give them the skills they need to fit into society.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236498 Sep 8, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Why? what does this prove? Men make mistakes?
Here you go again, skirting around the focal point of my post(s) and creating a new direction for you to travel, that really has no bearing on what has been discussed.
"Continuity" - a continuous connection. That is Science.
You cannot say this to be true with religion, because I've already shown you where inconsistency is the governing concept.
Please explain why religion has killed so many millions of peoples?
That is how silly your question was to me.
You'll avoid answering aspects of your religion, just to scoot away from doing so, and then come back and require others to answer something that has not bearing on the original topic.
Typical Catholic....and if you aren't one - you sure sound exactly like they do....always coming up with an excuse to be direct and honest with another person.
Modern Science comes from mankind, correct?

Modern Nuclear energy came from science, right?

Science has shown it can and does have some rather disturbing flaws and subject to some critical errors.

So when you are worshipping your science take Chernobyl into consideration.

The Chernobyl disaster (Ukrainian) referred as Chernobyl or the Chornobyl accident) was a catastrophic nuclear accident that occurred on 26 April 1986 at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in Ukraine (then officially the Ukrainian SSR), which was under the direct jurisdiction of the central authorities of the Soviet Union. An explosion and fire released large quantities of radioactive particles into the atmosphere, which spread over much of the western USSR and Europe.

The Chernobyl disaster is the worst nuclear power plant accident in history in terms of cost and resulting deaths, and is one of only two classified as a level 7 event (the maximum classification) on the International Nuclear Event Scale (the other being the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011). The battle to contain the contamination and avert a greater catastrophe ultimately involved over 500,000 workers and cost an estimated 18 billion rubles. During the accident itself 31 people died, and long-term effects such as cancers and deformities are still being accounted for. wiki
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236499 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yawn. More people die naturally of skin cancer!
Or add all those incidents up versus the 2004 Tsunami.
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Ever heard of global warming?

Ozone depletion?

Resulting in more skin cancer deaths than ever before in world history.

It came as a result of science. Mankindís advances in science.

It looks like this science you Atheist worship has fallen short of expectations on a global level.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#236500 Sep 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I don't believe you can prove the horseshoe crab's DNA hasn't changed in 500 million years.
Come on, bring some peer reviewed evidence to the table.
<quoted text>
Horseshoe crabs are often referred to as living fossils, as they have changed little in the last 445 million years. Forms almost identical to this species were present during the Triassic period 230 million years ago, and similar species were present in the Devonian, 400 million years ago. However, the Atlantic horseshoe crab itself has no fossil record at all, and the genus Limulus "ranges back only some 20 million years, not 200 million."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_horsesh...

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#236501 Sep 8, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>So , most likely you abhor Scripture because of its prevalent immorality ....Hmmm.
And , from where does your moral objectivity come from ...?
I don't abhor scripture. I don't take it seriously enough for that. I simply regard it as archaic, irrelevant, and deeply flawed. Moral objectivity? Not even on my long-range radar.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#236502 Sep 8, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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NEVER does the Bible condone rape in any way, shape or form!
why do antichristians always mistake the documented accounts of mankinds failures as God condoning them?! you do so only to your own demise:-)
god hisself raped Mary when she was still a child.

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