Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#235786 Aug 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
So what?
Does "very religious" = "Christianity" to you?
Thinking wrote:
Most christians are normal and eat cheese like the rest of us.
North Koreans are not non believers because they believe in a miraculous leader.
Hitler wasn't a non believer because he believed in your god and the occult.
Many believers are sheep, more easily led to evil deeds.
That's why I'm a non believer.
Okay. Well.... Um.... Thanks for that, but...

Does "very religious" = "Christianity" to you?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#235787 Aug 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Burden of proof is on you.
Your turn, give us your proof that Hitler was a Catholic.
Thinking wrote:
Why? Water at room temperature is wet.
Okay. Well.... Um.... Thanks for that, but...

Give us your proof that Hitler was a Catholic.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#235788 Aug 29, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Straw man.
Most young adults in the UK are non believers.
Haha.

Ya well, Christianity represents 60% of the population in the UK.

AND...

The official religion of England is Christianity.

So...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235789 Aug 29, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Straw man.
Most young adults in the UK are non believers.
Religion is dying of old age in the UK.
<quoted text>
I don’t have a problem believing that statement.

That’s why our forefathers left the UK and European content. They hated the Kings religion.

And when they set sail, everyone of the them flipped the bird at the UK. And we have been flipping the bird at you ever since.[laughing]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235790 Aug 29, 2014
Thinking wrote:
All religion is derisory.
<quoted text>
Oh thank goodness you don’t have a plan. All these unbelievers in the UK haven’t been putting a damper on radical extremist. Cause there’re breading like roaches in the UK. You are going to have to get your night stick happy cops to knocking some heads together.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#235791 Aug 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don’t have a problem believing that statement.
That’s why our forefathers left the UK and European content. They hated the Kings religion.
And when they set sail, everyone of the them flipped the bird at the UK. And we have been flipping the bird at you ever since.[laughing]
Google "religion in decline." The old farts are dying, the young are not filling the pews.
The doors close...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235792 Aug 29, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Straw man.
Most young adults in the UK are non believers.
Religion is dying of old age in the UK.
<quoted text>
Your government in the UK need follow our lead here in the United States when these militant sympathizers leave and go and fight for ISIS.

US Custom’s slap a little sticky note on their back as they leave that says,“Kill this bastard.”

We never see them again.[laughing]
Patrick

United States

#235793 Aug 29, 2014
Many (Most ??) young people in the US, Canada, the Cayman Islands and Great Britain may believe a variety of things regarding God, His existence or not. Throughout their lives they may change these beliefs a few times. Doubt if this is of significance ?

ISIS seem the threat de jour and the United kingdom will most likely rise to the occasion.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#235794 Aug 29, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No.
<quoted text>
Your thinking is highly flawed. You'll understand that as you suffer mechanical and thermal tortures in the Hell that was designed for your selfish, self-centered, and dishonest ass.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#235795 Aug 29, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Many (Most ??) young people in the US, Canada, the Cayman Islands and Great Britain may believe a variety of things regarding God, His existence or not. Throughout their lives they may change these beliefs a few times. Doubt if this is of significance ?
ISIS seem the threat de jour and the United kingdom will most likely rise to the occasion.
A young person that has not had their mind infested with the lies and dishonesty of atheism is very fortunate.

A young person today that has somehow escaped the deception of atheism is a young person that will shine in this life. Hopefully they will be able to live their lives untouched by the horrific aftermath that atheism has done to all of the world in these last days.

I am so glad that I was able to escape the horrors of atheism , not having to deal with their daily agony and burdens of figuring out how to get by without God. They obviously are miserable as they serve the satan that they will spend eternity with, dealing with horrific eternal punishment as a result of their disobedience and defiance of all that is good.

Atheism is a horrible disease and all atheists should be considered as dangerous.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#235796 Aug 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your government in the UK need follow our lead here in the United States when these militant sympathizers leave and go and fight for ISIS.
US Custom’s slap a little sticky note on their back as they leave that says,“Kill this bastard.”
We never see them again.[laughing]
Atheists are the most dangerous faction in America until Muslims started infesting our land..

Since: Aug 11

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#235798 Aug 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
You may want to think of yourselves as a conglomerate group as “all” formally being university graduates. That of course is a elitism mentality that is towed behind narcissism. There’s no shortage of Atheist that are as dumb as a bag of rocks. Neither is there a shortage of narcissistic Atheist.
And there’s no test or official IQ requirement for one to call themselves an Atheist. All one has to do is proclaim one does not believe in God or Gods. And that’s it, you are in the club. By the way there are Atheist churches which confirms what the US courts have said. Officially Atheism is a religion.
I guess he doesn't know about The First Church of Atheism

Since: Aug 11

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#235799 Aug 29, 2014
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Google "religion in decline." The old farts are dying, the young are not filling the pews.
The doors close...
Then google major religions increasing as percentage of population and atheism declining.
CunningLinguist

Tampa, FL

#235800 Aug 29, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
<quoted text>
Your thinking is highly flawed. You'll understand that as you suffer mechanical and thermal tortures in the Hell that was designed for your selfish, self-centered, and dishonest ass.
I think not Mr. Christian.

How well do you know your Bible?

You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need this rubbish?

Here's what you don't know...

The next time believers tell you that 'separation of church and state' does not appear in our founding document, tell them to stop using the word 'trinity.'

The word 'trinity' appears nowhere in the bible. Neither does Rapture, or Second Coming, or Original Sin.

Now let's throw this potpourri of religious terms into the mix, add Omniscience, Omnipresence, Supernatural, Transcendence, Afterlife, Deity, Divinity, Theology, Monotheism, Missionary, Immaculate Conception, Christmas, Christianity, Evangelical, Fundamentalist, Methodist, Catholic, Pope, Cardinal, Catechism, Purgatory, Penance, Transubstantiation, Excommunication, Dogma, Chastity, Unpardonable Sin, Infallibility, Inerrancy, Incarnation, Epiphany, Sermon, Eucharist, the Lord's Prayer, Good Friday, Doubting Thomas, Advent, Sunday School, Dead Sea, Golden Rule, Moral, Morality, Ethics, Patriotism, Education, Atheism, Apostasy, Conservative (Liberal is in), Capital Punishment, Monogamy, Abortion, Pornography, Homosexual, Lesbian, Fairness, Logic, Republic, Democracy, Capitalism, Funeral, Decalogue, or Bible.

Ingersoll
"The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits
everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance called 'faith'."
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235801 Aug 29, 2014
Freebird USA wrote:
<quoted text>
Then google major religions increasing as percentage of population and atheism declining.
I live in Southern Illinois and in my church the
congregation is mostly young people. I would say 65% or more of the church is under the age of 25. It’s the first time I have been in a church were the majority of the people were so young.

Some churches probably do close for whatever reason across the country but usually there’s another church looking to buy the property. Churches seem to be doing well at least from my vantage point.

In my former residence in Houston Texas, churches were thriving and on every corner. In addition there was always new churches being started up in shopping centers. Perhaps where you live you are seeing some decline, I can’t say. But I tend to think that’s wishful thinking on your part.

Some churches are having problems because their building program can’t keep up with demand. Others have gone from small churches to mega churches in a matter of a few years. overall I’ve not seen any decline.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235802 Aug 29, 2014
God not so dead: Atheism in decline worldwide

Gurat, France – There seems to be a growing consensus around the globe that godlessness is in trouble.

“Atheism as a theoretical position is in decline worldwide,” Munich theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.

His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism’s “future seems increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat,” he wrote in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.

Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.

Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya,“Atheism, which people have tried to for hundreds of years as ‘the ways of reason and science,’ is proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance.”

As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.

Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist colleagues at – of all places – Baylor University, a highly respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.

The stunning desertion of a former intellectual ambassador of secular humanism to the belief in some form of intelligence behind the design of the universe makes Yahya’s prediction sound probable:“The time is fast approaching when many people who are living in ignorance with no knowledge of their Creator will be graced by faith in the impending post-atheist world.”

A few years ago, European scientists sniggered when studies in the United States – for example, at Harvard and Duke universities – showed a correlation between faith, prayer and recovery from illness. Now 1,200 studies at research centers around the world have come to similar conclusions, according to “Psychologie Heute,” a German journal, citing, for example, the marked improvement of multiple sclerosis patients in Germany’s Ruhr District due to “spiritual resources.”
Atheism’s other Achilles heel are the acts on inhumanity and lunacy committed in its name. As McGrath relates in Christianity Today:“With time (atheism) turned out to have just as many frauds, psychopaths, and careerists as religion does.... With Stalin and Madalyn Murray O’Hair, atheism seems to have ended up mimicking the vices of the Spanish Inquisition and the worst televangelists, respectively.”

Read more at http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/at...
CunningLinguist

Tampa, FL

#235803 Aug 29, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
<quoted text>
A young person that has not had their mind infested with the lies and dishonesty of atheism is very fortunate.
A young person today that has somehow escaped the deception of atheism is a young person that will shine in this life. Hopefully they will be able to live their lives untouched by the horrific aftermath that atheism has done to all of the world in these last days.
I am so glad that I was able to escape the horrors of atheism , not having to deal with their daily agony and burdens of figuring out how to get by without God. They obviously are miserable as they serve the satan that they will spend eternity with, dealing with horrific eternal punishment as a result of their disobedience and defiance of all that is good.
Atheism is a horrible disease and all atheists should be considered as dangerous.
You Should be very scared, we've secretly built a huge army of non_believers, right now these 'black ops' agnostics, are looking at your house planning to tear off your foreskin, place a huge pile of faggots(old term for firewood) in the yard tie you to them, hang a rosary over your head, stick a Quran in your mouth, and set it a light.

It will be the first of many real burning bushes!

PS Jesus told me you suck but not very well

When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?– Keynes
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235804 Aug 29, 2014
In 2012 an article entitled Atheism in decline by Nigel Tomes declared:

“ The IBMR publishes yearly figures for religions (and non religions) around the globe. Their latest numbers, hot off the press (Jan. 2012) show some interesting trends.
Atheism is in Decline

In 1970 atheists (those avowing there is no God) numbered 166 million worldwide; that was almost one-in-twenty—4.5% of the globe’s population. By 2012 atheists’ number is estimated at 137 million. That’s a decline of almost 30 million. Since world population is growing, atheists’ share declined to less than one-in-fifty—under 2% in 2012. Put differently, every 24 hours there are 800 fewer atheists in the world! Atheism is in decline.

Agnosticism is in Decline

In 2000 agnostics (those who “don’t know” if there is a God) numbered 666 million, 10.9% of the world’s people. By 2012 agnostic’s number is estimated at 661 million--a decline of 5 million. In relative terms by 2012 agnostics represent less than one tenth (9.4%) of world population. Every 24 hours there are 1,100 less agnostics in the world. Agnostics are also in decline.

Added together these two groups make up a declining share of global population. In 1970 atheists and agnostics accounted for one-in-five (19.2%) of the world’s people. Based on current trends by 2025 they will represent less than one-in-ten (9.7%). Their population share will fall by half in 50+ years.[12]
CunningLinguist

Tampa, FL

#235805 Aug 29, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you're not really interested in the answer are you.
Smile.
it's good to see you brought your smile back kimare, I missed it.:-/

It just wouldn't be you, here without that smile.

But you are correct... we are not interested in any of your excuses(answers).

We also take into consideration the fact that your religion requires apologists in order to explain the unexplainable to The faithful.

I would like to chat a bit longer with you but I think there is a bush burning in my front yard, The police are here, Blue lights at all.

They're taking the bodies away now.

This was a real tragedy, 3 Jehovah's Witlesses, watch towers in hand, struck by a massive lightning bolt in my front yard.

One of them, hair smoking, had just enough life to utter... " oh Lord why hast thou deserted us?"

God's reply... "you pissed me off, that's a Gideon's you stole from the motel, in your hand."

Not to worry kimare, ISIS is emailing another shipment of fresh foreskins to him.

So, they're not quite hell bound yet, but they do have a more latrine duty in heaven. It was only 666 year sentence. Satan gave them a get out of hell free card, and they did get to Pasco, but no $200. Instead a luxury tax of $666.66.

Please send your dollars to Benny Hinn or Jimmy Swaggart, they have a direct connect with God and can get them released earlier perhaps to purgatory.

Disclaimer: All spelling errors made by Siri are deliberately left in for my amusement, they are forgiven, will go to paradise and receive 72 dictionaries directly from: Lord Supercalifragilisticexpialidoc ious, the improbable.
CunningLinguist

Tampa, FL

#235806 Aug 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I live in Southern Illinois and in my church the
congregation is mostly young people. I would say 65% or more of the church is under the age of 25. It’s the first time I have been in a church were the majority of the people were so young.
Some churches probably do close for whatever reason across the country but usually there’s another church looking to buy the property. Churches seem to be doing well at least from my vantage point.
In my former residence in Houston Texas, churches were thriving and on every corner. In addition there was always new churches being started up in shopping centers. Perhaps where you live you are seeing some decline, I can’t say. But I tend to think that’s wishful thinking on your part.
Some churches are having problems because their building program can’t keep up with demand. Others have gone from small churches to mega churches in a matter of a few years. overall I’ve not seen any decline.
Hey Eagle

Does your church building have a lightning rod(s) on it?

If the answer yes, it shows a disturbing lack of conviction.

If natural disasters are caused by God, and one of those disastrous happens to be a church burned to the ground, isn't this considered God's will?

Why do they keep rebuilding them?

Winks... I rely on you to tell me the intricacies of your mythology. You could get lucky I might move Illinois'

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