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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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I am right

Tampa, FL

#235350 Aug 26, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
Conversation with God:
Was my mother a sinner?
God: yes
What did she do?
God: she was born
So being born is automatically a sin?
God: yes
Why did you do that?
God: Dad and I agreed she owes us for giving her life
Why didn't you create her perfect without any defect?
God: and give up my master creation of hell ? are you kidding? Even gods have a Caveat every now and then. Anymore questions?
No thank you, you have confirmed you are inferior Gods, I will appeal to Zeus to pardon you for your many sins.
You are a nutcase. You must be another dishonest atheist.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235351 Aug 26, 2014
I am right wrote:
<quoted text>
I was about to ask you the same thing.
Were you?

I very much doubt that until you actually saw it written down, you don’t appear to have the intelligence to think for yourself.

Which of course makes you a liar for you god... welcome to the thread

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235352 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What I.S did to James Foley is abhorrent, rest assured that his execution is seen as cowardly and repulsive by the vast majority of Brits. The sooner the perpetrator is identified and brought to justice (preferably the less tolerant US justice) the better.
However American patriotism?
Ahh you mean like those patriotic Americans who killed my grandfather
My grandfather was a British agent working with the French resistance to help pave the way for the D Day landings.
He was shot in the head by invading US troops for daring to protest and try to protect a French girl (another resistance member assisting the landings) from being gang raped by 6 of those US troops.
So in you view rape is patriotic?
Interesting story. Several years,ago I corresponded with an old timer on a physics forum that was a youngster during the Nazi occupation of Holland or Belgium, can't remember which. But he related how after the Americans first came through a young woman who ran up cheering was dragged into the back of a truck and gang raped by American troops. There were evidently other incidents, yo, because that really affected him. He said the Germans never did such a thing. German officers would execute troops on the spot.

You say Hitler was a devout Christian?

Had another old timer friend that was in the Army amphibious corps in the Pacific and wound up occupying Japan. Young Japanese girls were bought from their familues and lived on the boats. They did more than clean. Until MacArthur issued an order that slavery was a caoital offense. Overnight there were thousands of young Japanese girls suddenly homeless.

A little bit about MacArthur's religious beliefs.

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_fr...

Of course you also have the well known "Kum, Frau of occupied Berlin.

America was secular, so was Russia.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235353 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you need to excuse it to the NT? The god of christianity and his actions were written first in the Tanakh, carefully selected and edited for the babble OT and later in the Quran. Christian teaching is based on the OT or is it that you believe in Christ but you do not believe in the god for the christian faith?
Allah, Jehovah, El etc... all the same god so it is your understanding that El is kicking himself? You ignorant moron...
What it look’s like to a bigoted and deliberately ignorant hate merchant like you is pretty much irrelevant.
Even Jews acknowledge a distinction from Christ Followers.

Neither Jews or Christians accept Allah as the same as God.

Again, what passage in the NT guided that behavior?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235354 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have no answer... that does highlight your stupidity... thank you
I wasn't an answer, it was a accurate response to your answer.

Smile.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235355 Aug 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting story. Several years,ago I corresponded with an old timer on a physics forum that was a youngster during the Nazi occupation of Holland or Belgium, can't remember which. But he related how after the Americans first came through a young woman who ran up cheering was dragged into the back of a truck and gang raped by American troops. There were evidently other incidents, yo, because that really affected him. He said the Germans never did such a thing. German officers would execute troops on the spot.
You say Hitler was a devout Christian?
Had another old timer friend that was in the Army amphibious corps in the Pacific and wound up occupying Japan. Young Japanese girls were bought from their familues and lived on the boats. They did more than clean. Until MacArthur issued an order that slavery was a caoital offense. Overnight there were thousands of young Japanese girls suddenly homeless.
A little bit about MacArthur's religious beliefs.
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_fr...
Of course you also have the well known "Kum, Frau of occupied Berlin.
America was secular, so was Russia.
Yes being brutalised and gang raped by the people who claim to have come to save you can be a bit of a downer

Do not try putting words in my mouth, it seems you have been too long talking to buck and it’s turning you into a liar. I never said he was devout.

As secular as god bless America can be.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235356 Aug 26, 2014
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like someone needs to stop watching the "history" channel. "The Alien!" HAHAHA
Another dumbfounded 'rational atheist' oxymoron.

Snicker

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235357 Aug 26, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Even Jews acknowledge a distinction from Christ Followers.
Neither Jews or Christians accept Allah as the same as God.
Again, what passage in the NT guided that behavior?
Smile.
Yes the Jews follow the book that say Christ was the bastard son of a roman soldier, one of the bits that was omitted from the OT for some reason.

Funny really because the Tanakh, the OT and the Quran do accept their gods as the same god, and as far as I know, all true believers in the abrahamic god admit that there god is the abrahmic god... that included jews, christians and muslims

Just because you are either a selfish moron who denies other people their belief because it upsets your sensibilities or you are just an ignorant bigot is not my problem. It seems that you are denying the OT in the name of your personal belief of what your religion is as opposed to what it actually is??? Go figure, what are you going to call this latest version of christianity when it is added to the other 48,000 different version?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#235358 Aug 26, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't an answer, it was a accurate response to your answer.
Smile.
I know it wasn’t an answer, as I said, however it was a bigoted and ignorant copout, you seem to be good at bigoted and ignorant copouts

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235359 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes the Jews follow the book that say Christ was the bastard son of a roman soldier, one of the bits that was omitted from the OT for some reason.
Funny really because the Tanakh, the OT and the Quran do accept their gods as the same god, and as far as I know, all true believers in the abrahamic god admit that there god is the abrahmic god... that included jews, christians and muslims
Just because you are either a selfish moron who denies other people their belief because it upsets your sensibilities or you are just an ignorant bigot is not my problem. It seems that you are denying the OT in the name of your personal belief of what your religion is as opposed to what it actually is??? Go figure, what are you going to call this latest version of christianity when it is added to the other 48,000 different version?
The God of the OT was not the same throughout. It started with this all powerful and encompassing creative force that turned into just another Baal. Baal was a localized god those megalithic structures empowered. I have posted about that in the past. A tapping into the telluric currents. But the OT God is a confused collection of the two. The Christian God is more of the original. Allah is still stuck with the confusion. Islam is Judaism II. Too much ritual worship in the two for it to be the real deal. You have some of that in Christianity, but it is a holdover from older thought. Christianity is much more intellectual.

Paul's making it universal broke the tribal limitations of worshipping the force that created us. Judaism and Islam are still tribal.

Pure and simple, Pauline Christianity opened the door to manifesting on another level. The Abrahamic, Eastern, and most other religions, along with some Christian sects, are still worshipping this world and a Baal of some sort.
Believer

Haslet, TX

#235360 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I know it wasn’t an answer, as I said, however it was a bigoted and ignorant copout, you seem to be good at bigoted and ignorant copouts
Jesus loves you!!
This I know cause the bible tells me so !

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#235362 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I know it wasn’t an answer, as I said, however it was a bigoted and ignorant copout, you seem to be good at bigoted and ignorant copouts
I'll take your judgment as a compliment.

Smile.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235363 Aug 26, 2014
As a temporal consciousness your perceptions of the greater reality are limited. Hence the perceptions of what heaven, eternal life, or even going to sleep forevermore would be like. Constructs of your physical mind. The reality will be different, not that you will be able to look back upon what you thought it was when the time comes. But perhaps you can shape that next destination by what you truly believe now.

Each day brings something new when you wake up to it, even if you don't feel so. That goes on for eternity, so to speak.

Or something like that.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235364 Aug 26, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes being brutalised and gang raped by the people who claim to have come to save you can be a bit of a downer
Do not try putting words in my mouth, it seems you have been too long talking to buck and it’s turning you into a liar. I never said he was devout.
As secular as god bless America can be.
You have alleged he was a practicing Christian repeatedly for years. He has been your piater boy for Christianity. You can't dance away frim that.

Lovey, you need to spend more time researching and less reacting. This allows for more neuron connections to be made with subsequent intelligence, knowledge, and understanding a result.

Emissions of force, or energy, follow the path of least resistance. Break out of the loop you are trapped in. Takes effort. You don't just float to the moon to study it, you have to concentrate a tremendous amount of energy and it to get there. Quit dreaming you "know" things. Dreams are done in an idle state.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#235365 Aug 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting story. Several years,ago I corresponded with an old timer on a physics forum that was a youngster during the Nazi occupation of Holland or Belgium, can't remember which. But he related how after the Americans first came through a young woman who ran up cheering was dragged into the back of a truck and gang raped by American troops. There were evidently other incidents, yo, because that really affected him. He said the Germans never did such a thing. German officers would execute troops on the spot.
You say Hitler was a devout Christian?
Had another old timer friend that was in the Army amphibious corps in the Pacific and wound up occupying Japan. Young Japanese girls were bought from their familues and lived on the boats. They did more than clean. Until MacArthur issued an order that slavery was a caoital offense. Overnight there were thousands of young Japanese girls suddenly homeless.
A little bit about MacArthur's religious beliefs.
http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/on_the_fr...
Of course you also have the well known "Kum, Frau of occupied Berlin.
America was secular, so was Russia.
You misspelled coital.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235366 Aug 26, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try I will give you that :-/
Unfortunately for you... the presence of observable and falsifiable scientific evidence is perhaps the most compelling reason we can conclude that the Bible is not inerrant.
This evidence clearly yields certain conclusions that are contradicted by direct statements from biblical authors.
Thus thy Bible is an imperfect book containing flaws of human origin.
Due to the overwhelming amount of scientific errors the book possesses, you should conclude that there was no divine inspiration or intervention involved during its creation.
Additionally, the vast categories of errors contained in the Bible demonstrate that the mistakes are not confined to a single author or field of study, this alone should question the foundation and intent of the book as a whole.
The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.
Evidence, what are you calling evidence?
Evidence is not a group of homely misfits coming together and voting with colored beads.
Could you see any legitimate science research group using that kind of voting system? It’s hilarious![laughing]
And you Mr. Science, who thinks you’re above the masses in intelligence, indorse this method of conjecture?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235367 Aug 26, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You misspelled coital.
You leard him alright.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235368 Aug 26, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
That's religion you're smelling, eaglet.
It stinks - A steaming pile of Shiite.
You are scientifically uneducated by personal choice.
You gleefully reject modern science in favor of dogma, what are you afraid of?
You bet, religion, Atheist religion.[laughing]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#235369 Aug 26, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Please acquaint yourself with this word: hearsay
Then see what the US judicial system has to say about it.
Hmm.. On second thought I'll save you the trouble since you're too lazy to go to any website anyway!
Generally, an out-of-court statement is hearsay if the parties care about whether or not the statement is true. For the purposes of the rule, it does not matter whether the statement was oral or written. Generally speaking, hearsay cannot be used as evidence at trial.
For example, suppose that a witness stopped at the scene of a car crash. At the crash site, an injured driver stumbled up to her and said "Martians caused the accident!" Because of the hearsay rule, the statement cannot be used as evidence that Martians caused the accident. It could, however, be used as evidence that the injured driver was capable of speech after the crash. The rule would also bar the testimony if the injured driver scribbled his message on a scrap of paper and handed it to the witness.
Try harder, JC "has your back"
So everything a court reporter documents in deposition is hearsay? Because they are documenting everything someone else is saying?

Let me vote on that using the Jesus Seminar voting method that you think so much of.

The red beads are for a vote of no confidence.

[dumping the entire red bead bin on counter]

Using your scientific endorsed voting method. I’d say that is a implausible baseless assumption.

I would advise finding a lawyer that doesn't take chickens as payment.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#235370 Aug 26, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You misspelled coital.
No, you just let your filthy mind intrepret to suit itself.

Go to the gym.

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